UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Meanwhile in RyanAir. RyanAir's reponse? "Pay us £55 to do things because our own systems failed catastrophically."

[Ostroeuropa]

In terms of percentages it was 52% to 48%.

28,800.

Hmm, that's a majority of the voting population, but hardly an unequivocal mandate.

Polling at the time indicated 4% of the country wanted a no-deal Brexit and even less people expected to get one. Most leave voters at the time considered the notion of no deal to be fearmongering by the remain campaign.

For contrast, on other EU matters, bona fide Euro-federal communists receive 5% of the vote.

At the time of the referendum, immediately uniting Europe into a single country, seizing the means of production, and flying the red flag, was a more popular choice than a no deal brexit.

It's only in the aftermath that the fringe along with their goons in the media have radicalized, and you can't really say the referendum was a vote for this any more than you can say voting for a mild centre-left government means the public is undeniably and totally behind a stalinist purge of all capitalists everywhere.

[Galloism]

Hmm, that's a majority of the voting population, but hardly an unequivocal mandate.

Polling at the time indicated 4% of the country wanted a no-deal Brexit and even less people expected to get one. Most leave voters at the time considered the notion of no deal to be fearmongering by the remain campaign.

For contrast, on other EU matters, bona fide Euro-federal communists receive 5% of the vote.

At the time of the referendum, immediately uniting Europe into a single country, seizing the means of production, and flying the red flag, was a more popular choice than a no deal brexit.

Time to get to work, comrade.

[Ifreann]

Meanwhile in RyanAir. RyanAir's reponse? "Pay us £55 to do things because our own systems failed catastrophically."

Ryanair is the worst thing Ireland ever did and I'm amazed we haven't been invaded to put a stop to our crimes yet.

[Ostroeuropa]

Polling at the time indicated 4% of the country wanted a no-deal Brexit and even less people expected to get one. Most leave voters at the time considered the notion of no deal to be fearmongering by the remain campaign.

For contrast, on other EU matters, bona fide Euro-federal communists receive 5% of the vote.

At the time of the referendum, immediately uniting Europe into a single country, seizing the means of production, and flying the red flag, was a more popular choice than a no deal brexit.

Time to get to work, comrade.

For bonus bonus points, the Brexit party elected more radical communists to the EU parliament than the communist party managed. As well as some radical socialists like Martin Daubney, who is also an MRA.

[Galloism]

Meanwhile in RyanAir. RyanAir's reponse? "Pay us £55 to do things because our own systems failed catastrophically."

Ryanair is the worst thing Ireland ever did and I'm amazed we haven't been invaded to put a stop to our crimes yet.

Lol, same thread:

https://twitter.com/Mailonlinepics/stat ... 0671250432

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[Ostroeuropa]

I just found out the EU decided to appoint the brexiteer communists as their spokespeople to north korea.

Which is absolutely fucking hilarious.

[The New California Republic]

Time to get to work, comrade.

For bonus bonus points, the Brexit party elected more radical communists to the EU parliament than the communist party managed. As well as some radical socialists like Martin Daubney, who is also an MRA.

Sneaky communists.

[Caracasus]

Meanwhile in RyanAir. RyanAir's reponse? "Pay us £55 to do things because our own systems failed catastrophically."

Ryanair is the worst thing Ireland ever did and I'm amazed we haven't been invaded to put a stop to our crimes yet.

It would have happened already, but no one believed Ryanair could launch an airplane in under 45 minutes.

[Bienenhalde]

So when are we executing everyone who supports the UN?

Elizabeth Windsor isn't Canadian, all Canadians who support her reign are, apparently, traitors to Canada. Ditto all the other places she rules from overseas. The only true patriots are the republicans who want to throw off the shackles of that foreign monarch.

And this is why nationalism is a flawed ideology. People should be loyal to the queen, not to the people of a particular place at the expense of everyone else.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Ryanair is the worst thing Ireland ever did and I'm amazed we haven't been invaded to put a stop to our crimes yet.

It would have happened already, but no one believed Ryanair could launch an airplane in under 45 minutes.

I wonder who's actually worse at not getting into the air: Air China or RyanAir? *thinke*

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Meanwhile in RyanAir. RyanAir's reponse? "Pay us £55 to do things because our own systems failed catastrophically."

Ryanair is the worst thing Ireland ever did and I'm amazed we haven't been invaded to put a stop to our crimes yet.

Also Jedward.

[Risottia]

And why not? Human rights are just pesky little laws that get in the way of true punishment of dissenters/undesirable persons.

The UK is, by and large, a civilised country that isn't about to go and send thousands into mass graves. Their laws have no relevance here. If we want further protections regarding our rights, more than Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights procure for us we can do so through our parliament.

Erm. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA

[Vassenor]

And why not? Human rights are just pesky little laws that get in the way of true punishment of dissenters/undesirable persons.

The UK is, by and large, a civilised country that isn't about to go and send thousands into mass graves. Their laws have no relevance here. If we want further protections regarding our rights, more than Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights procure for us we can do so through our parliament.

Are you saying the Human Rights Act wasn't actually passed by our Sovereign Parliament?

[The Archregimancy]

So, with the LibDem conference about to begin, it's time to start taking bets on the next defectors to the party. I'm anticipating up to three defectors during the conference, timed to drip-feed up to Swinson's closing speech.

Heidi Allen seems the most likely for obvious reasons, and she's already campaigned for the LibDems in Brecon, but senior party figures are briefing off the record that the next defector will come from Labour. Eyebrows have been raised by the regional party ordering the Canterbury local party to cancel its PPC selection meeting. Rosie Duffield has now put out a statement denying she's defecting, but since her local party tried to censure her for her opposition to Corbyn's reaction to the anti-Semitism issue, and she resigned from the shadow cabinet over Corbyn's European policy, she seems as likely as anyone.

Guesses on the back of a postcard, please.

And allow me to note that I vastly prefer this game to the 'will the party survive the year' game we were playing for a couple of years after the 2015 election.

Well, I'll admit I wasn't expecting Sam Gyimah.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49703214

[Hirota]

Freedom to negotiate trade deals.

759 treaties, of which 295 are trade deals to be exact.

And they take years. Ceta (the Canadian-EU deal) took seven years and was 22 in the making.

So... what's the point of having the freedom if you don't have the practical ability?

It's not quite that bad, at least on the trade front.

The Department for International Trade has been rather busy signing "continuity" agreements with the 160 odd-countries out there, which I understand to mean that the trading agreements already in place will remain in place in the interim.Last count I saw was 45 countries signed up, and I think that's in the last three months or so.

So yeah, still a heck of lot of work to do like you mentioned, but they've made some decent progress. I rather suspect a lot of the remaining countries are waiting to see how everything pans out - Canada for example.

For the rest of the treaties, I've not seen much about them. I'd be curious how they are getting on. Still, the progress with trade agreements implies there is a willingness from nations to continue the status quo for the short to medium term.

[The New California Republic]

A vegetable recreation of the leader of the House of Commons reclining during a debate has come second in a competition at an onion show.

Hester Feld entered "Jacob Leeks Mogg" into the Newent Onion Show's "Vegetable Character Over 17 Years" competition.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-g ... e-49702929

[Fartsniffage]

A vegetable recreation of the leader of the House of Commons reclining during a debate has come second in a competition at an onion show.

Hester Feld entered "Jacob Leeks Mogg" into the Newent Onion Show's "Vegetable Character Over 17 Years" competition.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-g ... e-49702929

I want to see a photo of the winner...

[The New California Republic]

(Image)

I want to see a photo of the winner...

To be honest I think the judges fucked up with this one.

EDIT: This might be the winner from a previous year, having trouble finding a photo of the winner for this year. Who would have thought that such a thing would be so difficult to find?

[Vassenor]

I want to see a photo of the winner...

To be honest I think the judges fucked up with this one.

EDIT: This might be the winner from a previous year, having trouble finding a photo of the winner for this year. Who would have thought that such a thing would be so difficult to find?

>The winner of the competition was a pair of tortoises and snails modelled out of spring onions and slices of red onion.

[The New California Republic]

(Image)

To be honest I think the judges fucked up with this one.

EDIT: This might be the winner from a previous year, having trouble finding a photo of the winner for this year. Who would have thought that such a thing would be so difficult to find?

>The winner of the competition was a pair of tortoises and snails modelled out of spring onions and slices of red onion.

So tortoises and snails beat Jacob Leeks Mogg?

My original point stands then, the judges fucked up.

[Ifreann]

>The winner of the competition was a pair of tortoises and snails modelled out of spring onions and slices of red onion.

So tortoises and snails beat Jacob Leeks Mogg?

My original point stands then, the judges fucked up.

Jacob Leek-Mogg will always be champion of our hearts.

[Shofercia]

Let's say that I'm representing a district of 100,000 people. 80,000 are registered to vote. There is an advisory Referendum, with 60,000 turnout, and 55,000 voted in favor of it. I would view it as my obligation to represent my constituents and adhere to the Referendum, even if it was advisory. Parliament is elected to represent the people, and the people voted for BREXIT. It's as simple as that.

In this analogy, it's not 55,000 who voted for Brexit. It's 31,200. And at any rate, there's an exceedingly good reason why we're not a direct democracy, and it's that direct democracy leads to moronic decisions like this one, which should be rightly ignored.

It's not an analogy; it's an example. Kowani's claim was that Parliament, or any type of Government, is under no obligation to obey any advisory Referendum. Any.

So once he gets an extension, you'll both agree that they have no excuse to avoid an election?

Yes, which is exactly what everybody involved has said.

That's bonkers, who came up with that system? That said, why didn't Parliament pass a law contingent on BoJo's agreement to hold it on the 15th? Also, thank you for that explanation. British politics is weird.

You need to get Queen's Consent before you start debating the bill, not just at the end.

Damn. That's pretty weird.

[Shofercia]

Hmm, that's a majority of the voting population, but hardly an unequivocal mandate.

Polling at the time indicated 4% of the country wanted a no-deal Brexit and even less people expected to get one. Most leave voters at the time considered the notion of no deal to be fearmongering by the remain campaign.

For contrast, on other EU matters, bona fide Euro-federal communists receive 5% of the vote.

At the time of the referendum, immediately uniting Europe into a single country, seizing the means of production, and flying the red flag, was a more popular choice than a no deal brexit.

It's only in the aftermath that the fringe along with their goons in the media have radicalized, and you can't really say the referendum was a vote for this any more than you can say voting for a mild centre-left government means the public is undeniably and totally behind a stalinist purge of all capitalists everywhere.

You mean there was fearmongering in an election?! No way. Also, when you have 91% undecided, claiming that choice A is more popular than choice B is just sad.

[Fartsniffage]

It's not an analogy; it's an example. Kowani's claim was that Parliament, or any type of Government, is under no obligation to obey any advisory Referendum. Any.

They aren't. Constitutionally the UK has no mechanism for referenda. It's why we shouldn't have them, they tend to fuck things up.