UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Novus America]

No, that is silly. It would make renting it out too damn complicated.
Or what if you rented just the bathroom? Nobody else should want to rent the rest of the flat with a weird dude camping in the bathroom.

Why should they be required to use a unduly burdensome business model that would lose them money? Why should they not be able to rent out on the terms and conditions they find appropriate and that are in the contract?

You as the consumer do not have rights to unilaterally dictate contract terms.

The model where you select your furnature is what my families company uses. It allows them to have a stock of furnature which they keep around, allows tenants to select varying styles should they want to change it etc. There's a fee for moving it but it's cheaper than buying a sofa if the landlord or previous tenant has left a shitty one in the house/flat, which is the choice most landlords give you. It's a very sensible approach for both landlord and tenant.

Well that is not a business model everyone uses. Because it is not cheap or easy.
My mom owns a beach rental house and does not use that model. She would not want to deal with the hassle.

Why should everyone be required to use one business model just because your family uses it?

Oh and you completely skipped the bathroom part. You still require they rent the whole flat, they cannot rent only say 80% of it for 80% of the price.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Private universities are a thing, but they're not a big thing in the UK. I don't see why they couldn't be though, might lead to more innovation from the medical profession.

Would you want the guy peddling "Miracle Mineral Supplement" having a medical certificate he could buy with his ill-begotten wealth?

That's not what I mean, I get that it was pretty ambiguous. I don't think it should be unregulated, but private universities might offer a different way of teaching, and possibly a different way of thinking about problems.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

The model where you select your furnature is what my families company uses. It allows them to have a stock of furnature which they keep around, allows tenants to select varying styles should they want to change it etc. There's a fee for moving it but it's cheaper than buying a sofa if the landlord or previous tenant has left a shitty one in the house/flat, which is the choice most landlords give you. It's a very sensible approach for both landlord and tenant.

Well that is not a business model everyone uses. Because it is not cheap or easy.
My mom owns a beach rental house and does not use that model. She would not want to deal with the hassle.

Why should everyone be required to use one business model just because your family uses it?

Oh and you completely skipped the bathroom part. You still require they rent the whole flat, they cannot rent only say 80% of it for 80% of the price.

You can rent a bedroom...it's cheaper than the whole flat.

[Novus America]

Private universities are a thing, but they're not a big thing in the UK. I don't see why they couldn't be though, might lead to more innovation from the medical profession.

Would you want the guy peddling "Miracle Mineral Supplement" having a medical certificate he could buy with his ill-begotten wealth?

That would not happen though, even in countries where private medical schools and private hospitals are more common, not just anyone can become a doctor with any degree.

The licensing body will only accept certain degrees from approved schools.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Well that is not a business model everyone uses. Because it is not cheap or easy.
My mom owns a beach rental house and does not use that model. She would not want to deal with the hassle.

Why should everyone be required to use one business model just because your family uses it?

Oh and you completely skipped the bathroom part. You still require they rent the whole flat, they cannot rent only say 80% of it for 80% of the price.

You can rent a bedroom...it's cheaper than the whole flat.

Should people who rent out living rooms as bedrooms (did that once) have the option of erecting Berlin Walls to bar entrance to the bathroom and the kitchen?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You can rent a bedroom...it's cheaper than the whole flat.

Should people who rent out living rooms as bedrooms (did that once) have the option of erecting Berlin Walls to bar entrance to the bathroom and the kitchen?

No, because it's not their flat. They're only renting it.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Should people who rent out living rooms as bedrooms (did that once) have the option of erecting Berlin Walls to bar entrance to the bathroom and the kitchen?

No, because it's not their flat. They're only renting it.

I am not renting my own flat GVH...

[Novus America]

Well that is not a business model everyone uses. Because it is not cheap or easy.
My mom owns a beach rental house and does not use that model. She would not want to deal with the hassle.

Why should everyone be required to use one business model just because your family uses it?

Oh and you completely skipped the bathroom part. You still require they rent the whole flat, they cannot rent only say 80% of it for 80% of the price.

You can rent a bedroom...it's cheaper than the whole flat.

But you cannot rent half a bedroom.
And I bet you you cannot rent just the bedroom in a one bedroom flat.

Also I said just the bathroom, not the bedroom. You cannot just rent that.

Because it would make it very hard to rent out the rest.

And again why should everyone be forced to follow only your approved business model?

Many owners will not rent out only part of a property. Some do, some do not.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You can rent a bedroom...it's cheaper than the whole flat.

But you cannot rent half a bedroom.
And I bet you you cannot rent just the bedroom in a one bedroom flat.

Also I said just the bathroom, not the bedroom. You cannot just rent that.

Because it would make it very hard to rent out the rest.

And again why should everyone be forced to follow only your approved business model?

Many owners will not rent out only part of a property. Some do, some do not.

Because it allows for increased customisation. Choice is always better than not having it.

[Novus America]

Should people who rent out living rooms as bedrooms (did that once) have the option of erecting Berlin Walls to bar entrance to the bathroom and the kitchen?

No, because it's not their flat. They're only renting it.

Right, the owner can set conditions on the rental, the renter cannot unilaterally set their own rules.

[Novus America]

But you cannot rent half a bedroom.
And I bet you you cannot rent just the bedroom in a one bedroom flat.

Also I said just the bathroom, not the bedroom. You cannot just rent that.

Because it would make it very hard to rent out the rest.

And again why should everyone be forced to follow only your approved business model?

Many owners will not rent out only part of a property. Some do, some do not.

Because it allows for increased customisation. Choice is always better than not having it.

Why should people only be allowed to sell things based on unlimited customization according to your whims? Nobody does that. There are always some limits. Like I said I cannot rent just the bathroom for example.

And in most cases in a one bedroom flat you rent the whole thing or nothing.

[Fartsniffage]

Because it allows for increased customisation. Choice is always better than not having it.

Why should people only be allowed to sell things based on unlimited customization according to your whims? Nobody does that. There are always some limits.

And in most cases in a one bedroom flat you rent the whole thing or nothing.

GVH has claimed quite proudly in this thread that his family are slum landlords. They may well rent out 1 bedroom flats to large groups of people.

[Novus America]

Why should people only be allowed to sell things based on unlimited customization according to your whims? Nobody does that. There are always some limits.

And in most cases in a one bedroom flat you rent the whole thing or nothing.

GVH has claimed quite proudly in this thread that his family are slum landlords. They may well rent out 1 bedroom flats to large groups of people.

Fair enough, but only on their terms, at the prices they want to rent.
I guarantee they do not give the renters unlimited choices.

Logically they would not rent part of it to one person at a reduced price if it left the rest unmarketable.

And of course not all landlords allow that. Not all are slumlords.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Why should people only be allowed to sell things based on unlimited customization according to your whims? Nobody does that. There are always some limits.

And in most cases in a one bedroom flat you rent the whole thing or nothing.

GVH has claimed quite proudly in this thread that his family are slum landlords. They may well rent out 1 bedroom flats to large groups of people.

They'd rent a one-bedroom to a couple, but not to groups of random people.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Because it allows for increased customisation. Choice is always better than not having it.

Why should people only be allowed to sell things based on unlimited customization according to your whims? Nobody does that. There are always some limits. Like I said I cannot rent just the bathroom for example.

And in most cases in a one bedroom flat you rent the whole thing or nothing.

The idea of unlimited customisation might be the way to go actually. Unfortunately there are laws that prevent just a bathroom being rented out.

[Vassenor]

So what do we make of the Government being forced to release everything about Yellowhammer and prorogation?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

So what do we make of the Government being forced to release everything about Yellowhammer and prorogation?

I agree with it. I like the idea of information being as widely available as possible, whether or not it is in the states interest to release it.

[Vassenor]

So what do we make of the Government being forced to release everything about Yellowhammer and prorogation?

I agree with it. I like the idea of information being as widely available as possible, whether or not it is in the states interest to release it.

Even if it leads to the end of Brexit?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I agree with it. I like the idea of information being as widely available as possible, whether or not it is in the states interest to release it.

Even if it leads to the end of Brexit?

I don't agree with anything leading to the end of Brexit, because I believe that Brexit should never be tampered with. I can't have any disagreement ith the release of the information though.

[Novus America]

Why should people only be allowed to sell things based on unlimited customization according to your whims? Nobody does that. There are always some limits. Like I said I cannot rent just the bathroom for example.

And in most cases in a one bedroom flat you rent the whole thing or nothing.

The idea of unlimited customisation might be the way to go actually. Unfortunately there are laws that prevent just a bathroom being rented out.

No, because it would be very difficult. The owner would then have to figure out new pricing for every owner. And nobody will rent out just part that makes the remainder unmarketable.
You are just placing a burdensome regulation on the property owner, which I thought you opposed.

That would be stupid. If you renting only part makes the rest undesirable or too hard to rent I am going to charge you the full price.

It is not practical or efficient in many cases.

[Novus America]

GVH has claimed quite proudly in this thread that his family are slum landlords. They may well rent out 1 bedroom flats to large groups of people.

They'd rent a one-bedroom to a couple, but not to groups of random people.

So they do put restrictions on who the rent to, and how it is rented, and how much is rented.
They do not offer unlimited customization obviously.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

They'd rent a one-bedroom to a couple, but not to groups of random people.

So they do put restrictions on who the rent to, and how it is rented, and how much is rented.
They do not offer unlimited customization obviously.

Only due to the law, which gives far too many rights to tenants.

[Gravlen]

The Yellowhammer motion passed 311 to 302.

Another nail in Johnson's coffin.

Has this 'government' won a single vote in Parliament yet?

Genuinely curious.

Once they do, I'm perfectly willing to take the quotation marks off 'government'.

I honestly couldn't say. Nothing big, at least.

On that note, BBCs political editor said it well:

How to sum up last few days for @BorisJohnson? 5 days in Commons + 5 major defeats - 21 Tory MPs = 0 majority + 0 election + 0 plan for Brexit + 5 weeks of Parliament suspensed

[Novus America]

So they do put restrictions on who the rent to, and how it is rented, and how much is rented.
They do not offer unlimited customization obviously.

Only due to the law, which gives far too many rights to tenants.

And you want to place a more onerous law on landowners...

Regardless no, it is not only because of the law, but because of convenience and practicality.
They would not only rent out the bathroom of a one bathroom flat, because it would leave the rest basically unmarketable, almost no one would want to rent a flat with no bathroom.

They do not want to have to negotiate everything and try to calculate the cost of everything.

[Zhivotnoye]

Yes and no.

Yes, as in the people voted for Brexit, and with Brexit come obvious consequences, some easier to solve than others.

No, as in British politics made it worse than it had to be, and the longer they value napotism over their obligation the worse it gets.

>Nepotism is the granting of jobs to one's relatives in various fields, including business, politics, entertainment, sports, religion and other activities. Nepotism is the act of using one's power to get good jobs or unfair advantages for the members of your family when the members of your family do not deserve it.

Not sure how that's happening here.

Hmmm, it seems google failed me in a translation there

Maybe Cronyism is a better translation, or favouritism, not sure.
What i meant was that they are too busy with themselves, keeping their position and advancing their own personal goals, rather than leading the nation forward as they should.