UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Bombadil]

Irrelevant.

Entirely relevant, because if there’s little to no benefit in leaving then why leave at all?

Some people just want to watch the world burn..

..having said that, you'd think it was tough being the only thing the UK wants less than a No Deal Exit. I wonder if Jeremy Corbyn ever has the tiniest doubts about his leadership.

Probably not.

[Zhivotnoye]

Irrelevant.

It is practically everything.

How so?

Oeh, are we playing 'how low can you go?' I must say, you're good at it.



Not sure what your point is.

The point is, the EU cannot take control of a Sovereign nation without the acceptance of each Sovereign nation.

But here's the catch, the EU doesn't take full control right away, it's a slow progress in which it takes away the sovereignty bit by bit, which is dangerous to say the least. Most disturbing of all is that a lot of politicians don't seem to care, and those who do care are quickly put away as 'supporters of Russia' or other ridiculous stuff.

Don't take me wrong, i'm not against the EU per sé, but against its current state, and the path it follows.

Irrelevant.

Entirely relevant, because if there’s little to no benefit in leaving then why leave at all?

But maybe, just maybe they should leave because the people made their wish clear and the government vouched to respect it?
Here begs the question, are you so much of a capitalist that the people of a country don't matter anymore?

[Zhivotnoye]

Go for it. It's still irrelevant though, because it was what was voted for.

It is everything.
Loss of subsidies, increased taxes for new trade deals, loss of businesses, drop to the economy, increased problems at the Irish Border to name a few things.
No one voted for those things, did they?

Oh, loss to 60% import of foods and medicines until new trade deals are established too.

Yes and no.

Yes, as in the people voted for Brexit, and with Brexit come obvious consequences, some easier to solve than others.

No, as in British politics made it worse than it had to be, and the longer they value napotism over their obligation the worse it gets.

[Vassenor]

It is everything.
Loss of subsidies, increased taxes for new trade deals, loss of businesses, drop to the economy, increased problems at the Irish Border to name a few things.
No one voted for those things, did they?

Oh, loss to 60% import of foods and medicines until new trade deals are established too.

Yes and no.

Yes, as in the people voted for Brexit, and with Brexit come obvious consequences, some easier to solve than others.

No, as in British politics made it worse than it had to be, and the longer they value napotism over their obligation the worse it gets.

>Nepotism is the granting of jobs to one's relatives in various fields, including business, politics, entertainment, sports, religion and other activities. Nepotism is the act of using one's power to get good jobs or unfair advantages for the members of your family when the members of your family do not deserve it.

Not sure how that's happening here.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Boris Johnson says a no deal Brexit would be a failure.

Yes it would; but all the evidence still seems to point towards that being his objective.

[Nova Cyberia]

Tories extend lead over Labour to 10 points despite chaotic week

wew Labour just can't catch a break

[Greater Loegria]

Tories extend lead over Labour to 10 points despite chaotic week

wew Labour just can't catch a break

Labour's problem, as demonstrated by Emily Thornberry on BBCQT the other night is that they are failing to fall decisively on one side of the isle. They are more or less a remain party though they do have some of their own brexiteers sat in their ranks not to mention in the North, Labour relies on a working class vote which largely voted to leave.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Lucid Talks forecast for NI Westminster seats from an election poll August 9th-12th



More info here


Alliance predicted to take South Belfast from the DUP.

Although Rumour mill is they might possibly take another two seats but likely just one.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Strabane mortar ‘attempt to kill police’ - Byrne

A man has been arrested after a mortar was found during a security alert in Strabane.

The 33-year-old was detained under the Terrorism Act in the early hours of Sunday following the discovery of an improvised explosive device.

Police said the device was a mortar which had been placed on a wall close to homes in the Church View area - and was discovered by a resident.

They believe it was "placed in order to attack police officers at the nearby police station".

A spokesperson for the PSNI said: "This is not the first time a deadly device has been left in a public space recently and serves to remind us all how little the terrorists responsible care for the lives of local people."

....

Fuck off you dissident cunts.

[Nova Cyberia]

Strabane mortar ‘attempt to kill police’ - Byrne

A man has been arrested after a mortar was found during a security alert in Strabane.

The 33-year-old was detained under the Terrorism Act in the early hours of Sunday following the discovery of an improvised explosive device.

Police said the device was a mortar which had been placed on a wall close to homes in the Church View area - and was discovered by a resident.

They believe it was "placed in order to attack police officers at the nearby police station".

A spokesperson for the PSNI said: "This is not the first time a deadly device has been left in a public space recently and serves to remind us all how little the terrorists responsible care for the lives of local people."

....

Fuck off you dissident cunts.

>a fucking mortar

I literally did a double-take to make sure I read that correctly.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Strabane mortar ‘attempt to kill police’ - Byrne



Fuck off you dissident cunts.

>a fucking mortar

I literally did a double-take to make sure I read that correctly.

Republicans have used mortars before, they used one to attack Downing Street once.

[World Anarchic Union]

Strabane mortar ‘attempt to kill police’ - Byrne

A man has been arrested after a mortar was found during a security alert in Strabane.

The 33-year-old was detained under the Terrorism Act in the early hours of Sunday following the discovery of an improvised explosive device.

Police said the device was a mortar which had been placed on a wall close to homes in the Church View area - and was discovered by a resident.

They believe it was "placed in order to attack police officers at the nearby police station".

A spokesperson for the PSNI said: "This is not the first time a deadly device has been left in a public space recently and serves to remind us all how little the terrorists responsible care for the lives of local people."

....

Fuck off you dissident cunts.

Are there still active IRA cells with influence in Northern Ireland? Had heard about some that have gone more in the direction of vigilantism, but I didn’t know there were still fighters that partook in attacks against the police and such.

[The Blaatschapen]

Strabane mortar ‘attempt to kill police’ - Byrne

A man has been arrested after a mortar was found during a security alert in Strabane.

The 33-year-old was detained under the Terrorism Act in the early hours of Sunday following the discovery of an improvised explosive device.

Police said the device was a mortar which had been placed on a wall close to homes in the Church View area - and was discovered by a resident.

They believe it was "placed in order to attack police officers at the nearby police station".

A spokesperson for the PSNI said: "This is not the first time a deadly device has been left in a public space recently and serves to remind us all how little the terrorists responsible care for the lives of local people."

....

Fuck off you dissident cunts.

Well, they want to fuck off

And be part of Ireland, together with the rest of the territory of NI.

[Novus America]

>a fucking mortar

I literally did a double-take to make sure I read that correctly.

Republicans have used mortars before, they used one to attack Downing Street once.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrack_buster
Yes, they have been doing it for a while. They are easy to make, mobile and stand off weapons allowing you to “shoot and scoot”.

And thus difficult to counter.

The aims are evil but the tactic is logical given their goals.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Strabane mortar ‘attempt to kill police’ - Byrne



Fuck off you dissident cunts.

Are there still active IRA cells with influence in Northern Ireland? Had heard about some that have gone more in the direction of vigilantism, but I didn’t know there were still fighters that partook in attacks against the police and such.

The Real IRA, as they like to call themselves, are still active and carry out dissident activities targeting the police and earlier this year killed a journalist in Derry and detonated a car bomb outside a court in Derry too.

Most other IRA groups are either gone or as you said focus on Vigilantism and occasional threats on establishments. Loyalist Paramilitaries are also still active, but are mainly involved in pushing drugs and carrying out killings at one another over drugs and also intimidate mixed housing estates forcing catholics out.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Strabane mortar ‘attempt to kill police’ - Byrne



Fuck off you dissident cunts.

Well, they want to fuck off

And be part of Ireland, together with the rest of the territory of NI.

I'd prefer it if they fucked off into the Arctic sea.

[Salandriagado]

Spouting platitudes =/= actually pursuing policies that will achieve that goal.

I assume you have evidence to back up your claim then?

From those twin assumptions has flown significant funding for electric vehicle infrastructure and energy storage R&D; an evolving vision for a UK smart grid; new, if still early stage, plans to improve business energy efficiency; the construction of the first new nuclear power plant in a generation; a fleet of giant new offshore wind farms; co-ordinated Sector Deals for key green industries; a raft of new regulations and initiatives to tackle plastic waste; an international coal phase out plan; a bid to host the critical COP26 UN climate summit; the greenest Treasury statement in years, including the promise of a major new review on the economic value of nature and beefed up green standards for new homes; the first draft Environment Bill in 25 years; a potentially transformational plan to reform agricultural subsidies to benefit the environment; a repeated pledge to maintain and strengthen environmental protections post-Brexit, including clear commitments in the Withdrawal Agreement; and, perhaps most important of all, an official review of whether to set a net zero emission target that everyone knows is only going to come back with one answer.

https://www.businessgreen.com/bg/blog-p ... -no-really

So yeah, fuck all that's even remotely close to being significant enough to hit the target.

[The Blaatschapen]

Well, they want to fuck off

And be part of Ireland, together with the rest of the territory of NI.

I'd prefer it if they fucked off into the Arctic sea.

I believe there is an environmental regulation against that.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Looks like there is going to be an attempt to make the government reveal the Project Yellowhammer documents. At least then we would have a good idea of the consequences of no deal Brexit.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Looks like there is going to be an attempt to make the government reveal the Project Yellowhammer documents. At least then we would have a good idea of the consequences of no deal Brexit.

In the Netherlands, we have the Statute of Public Governance which allows for documents to be made available to the public upon request. Does the UK have something similar?

[The New California Republic]

Looks like there is going to be an attempt to make the government reveal the Project Yellowhammer documents. At least then we would have a good idea of the consequences of no deal Brexit.

In the Netherlands, we have the Statute of Public Governance which allows for documents to be made available to the public upon request. Does the UK have something similar?

Yes.

[Hirota]

In the Netherlands, we have the Statute of Public Governance which allows for documents to be made available to the public upon request. Does the UK have something similar?

Yes.

Someone already made that request.

[The New California Republic]

Yes.

Someone already made that request.

And the buggers said no. For shame.

[Vassenor]

Someone already made that request.

And the buggers said no. For shame.

Because if they said yes then they wouldn't be able to lie about how No Deal is the best thing ever any more.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Dominic Grieve is going to try and get the papers released in parliament.