UK Politics Thread X: Boris' Big Bonkers Brexit Bash

[Hamstan]

Do you see why I dislike democracy?

No. I don't.

I dislike it because it is essentially the freedom to obey.

[Snoodum]

Maybe the Lib Dems can do something.

Clegg is still sorry guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDjRZ30SNo

[Kowani]

No. I don't.

I dislike it because it is essentially the freedom to obey.

And while your moralizing is very nice, it’s also unpracticable.

[Salandriagado]

Also seems we're going cap in hand to the EU for help with the Tankers thing because the US won't lift a finger.

Remember how we were meant to be strong and stable enough to not need Europe's help with anything?

Right. I forgot that phase five of Brexit was the disintegration of Europe.

Yes? Like, literally in the direct claims of both the Brexit supporters here and official Leave campaign leaders.

[The Nihilistic view]

Considering that you think mayhem is "beautiful", forgive me if I call bs on your assertion that you being in power would be in any way "glorious"...


And it was a once in a lifetime thing, so no more referendums.

It was a once in a lifetime thing until it wasn't. The situation has changed radically since 2014, and many who voted to stay part of Britain did so because they figured that it wouldn't make that much difference if Britain and Scotland were in the EU together. Now, that's not going to happen. Britain is on the verge of national suicide, and many in Scotland don't want to be taken down because some English folks decided on it.

The EU referendum pledge was made before the indyref. It was a possibility before the vote. How much people figured that into their vote is both their choice and their fault.

[Souseiseki]

It was a once in a lifetime thing until it wasn't. The situation has changed radically since 2014, and many who voted to stay part of Britain did so because they figured that it wouldn't make that much difference if Britain and Scotland were in the EU together. Now, that's not going to happen. Britain is on the verge of national suicide, and many in Scotland don't want to be taken down because some English folks decided on it.

The EU referendum pledge was made before the indyref. It was a possibility before the vote. How much people figured that into their vote is both their choice and their fault.

i feel the same way about this issue as i do about brexit. just give them another goddamn vote if you're so convinced that the issue is settled. stop shirking away from it.

[Salandriagado]

Depends what you were saying that we'd be fine after.

Well, my favoured situation is no deal+

Yes, we know that you want the world to burn. There's no need to keep whining about how you want to fuck us all over all the damned time. The rest of us are busy discussing what's actually good for people.

'divisive' is a buzzword. What would actually be the problem with a no deal?

The problem(s) might be of economic and practical nature.

This debate isn't going anywhere. GVH literally wants everything to go to shit.

Why are you even asking that when by now we all know that whatever the answer you'll just brush it off. Whatever problems we point to you'll say they're worth it, or that the harm that will be caused will actually be good.

I just don't get the word 'divisive.' It'll divide the country? The country is already pretty fucking divided. What will it start, a civil war?

Sure, that's the wrong word. It's quite the opposite: it's universally agreed by everybody that both knows what they're talking about and isn't outright trying to cause a global economic disaster that will kill literally billions of people that it's stupid. It's not divisive: it just divides you (and a bunch of people who don't know what they're on about and/or are outright sociopaths) from those of us who aren't advocating the deaths of billions of people.

Ah. The reference to "Scottish woman" as far as politics go usually by default refers to Nicola.

Swinson is better.

I admit, she's quite new to being the leader of her party, but she has been leader of her party longer than Boris of his.

And Nicola does not have the monopoly on being a Scottish woman

Nonsense! There's clearly exactly one woman in Scotland. She just runs around really fast and has a top-class quick-change act going.

[The Nihilistic view]

The EU referendum pledge was made before the indyref. It was a possibility before the vote. How much people figured that into their vote is both their choice and their fault.

i feel the same way about this issue as i do about brexit. just give them another goddamn vote if you're so convinced that the issue is settled. stop shirking away from it.

In 20 or 30 years I probably would.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

The EU referendum pledge was made before the indyref. It was a possibility before the vote. How much people figured that into their vote is both their choice and their fault.

i feel the same way about this issue as i do about brexit. just give them another goddamn vote if you're so convinced that the issue is settled. stop shirking away from it.

so give them a vote every 5 minutes?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

i feel the same way about this issue as i do about brexit. just give them another goddamn vote if you're so convinced that the issue is settled. stop shirking away from it.

so give them a vote every 5 minutes?

Is the difference between three years and five minutes too small for you?

Did you know what WTO trade and GATT were in 2016? Because there is your answer.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

are you seriously asking if i knew what the WTO was 3 years ago lol

[Greater vakolicci haven]

so give them a vote every 5 minutes?

Is the difference between three years and five minutes too small for you?

Did you know what WTO trade and GATT were in 2016? Because there is your answer.

I did.

[Fartsniffage]

are you seriously asking if i knew what the WTO was 3 years ago lol

Did you know all the tariff rules before you voted? Be honest now....

[Hamstan]

I dislike it because it is essentially the freedom to obey.

And while your moralizing is very nice, it’s also unpracticable.

You will quickly find that I am neither practical nor rational

[Greater vakolicci haven]

are you seriously asking if i knew what the WTO was 3 years ago lol

Did you know all the tariff rules before you voted? Be honest now....

Did you know every future EU plan when you voted?

[Kowani]

And while your moralizing is very nice, it’s also unpracticable.

You will quickly find that I am neither practical nor rational

Which is why your ideas aren’t good.

[Questarian New Yorkshire]

are you seriously asking if i knew what the WTO was 3 years ago lol

Did you know all the tariff rules before you voted? Be honest now....

I dont know all the WTO rules before I voted, I don't even know them now.

What's weird is the pretense that the remainers knew these rules too. They plainly didn't.

But be careful lad. I'm against voting. That I didn't know everything about the WTO doesn't prove anything.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You will quickly find that I am neither practical nor rational

Which is why your ideas aren’t good.

Freedom to say what you like on a government-sanctioned platform is a pretty good idea imho.

[Fartsniffage]

Did you know all the tariff rules before you voted? Be honest now....

Did you know every future EU plan when you voted?

Nope. Why would I need to? I wasn't asking the guy if he could predict the future, just whether he understood the current rules he was voting for. Therefore you're attempt to gotcha is rejected.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Did you know every future EU plan when you voted?

Nope. Why would I need to? I wasn't asking the guy if he could predict the future, just whether he understood the current rules he was voting for. Therefore you're attempt to gotcha is rejected.

Not really, because nobody knows what rules will apply to us when we leave. Remember we have Boris leading us now, and he will ensure that we face a glorious and prosperous future outside of the EU.

[Phoenicaea]

pardon, i m not british. there is a thing it can t pass unseen for me, no people seems to care.

i ve seen johnson's fiancee', is it truly her? so wonderful women, and at his age, never seen..

[The Huskar Social Union]

pardon, i m not british. there is a thing it can t pass unseen for me, no people seems to care.

i ve seen johnson's fiancee', is it truly her? so wonderful women, and at his age, never seen..

..what

[Fartsniffage]

Nope. Why would I need to? I wasn't asking the guy if he could predict the future, just whether he understood the current rules he was voting for. Therefore you're attempt to gotcha is rejected.

Not really, because nobody knows what rules will apply to us when we leave. Remember we have Boris leading us now, and he will ensure that we face a glorious and prosperous future outside of the EU.

We will have a Red White and Blue Brexit. *nods*

Your side is so full of shit.....

[Ifreann]

We're where we are politically because of an ideological disagreement within the Conservative Party, not because of neo-liberals, multiculturalism, and feminists. It's a debate that has been going on since the seventies.

Those Tories. They sure are bad.

[Duhon]

Schadenfreude... still not my cup of tea.

Eleven pages since I last posted, and still Britain is in flames