Transgender Peaceful Protest Advocate Kept in Men's Prison

[Al Mumtahanah]

Iran does. The bill you're referring to hasn't been signed into law, it needs the current president's signature which probably won't happen as he is an Islamist charged with terrorism but given immunity due to his office.

Pakistan's bill was already passed last year. That's just the first English copy of it I could find. It's been law for over a year now. And Iran is Shia which isn't what you were talking about.

Looked it up and it appears you are right. It was upheld by the court however because the court is secular and follows English common law. If the court followed a fiqh, it would overturn the bill.

[Risottia]

Egyptian authorities have a horrific track record of persecuting people based on their sexual orientation and gender identity, period.

Fixed.

[Risottia]

Sunnis don't recognize sex change and gender-mixing is not allowed in Islam.

And zero fucks were given, as we're talking the Arab Republic of Egypt (with freedom of religion as per art.64 of its Constitution), not a fucking Caliphate.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Sunnis don't recognize sex change and gender-mixing is not allowed in Islam.

And zero fucks were given, as we're talking the Arab Republic of Egypt (with freedom of religion as per art.64 of its Constitution), not a fucking Caliphate.

The Egyptian constitution under Sisi means about as much as the Soviet constitution under Stalin.

[Grenartia]

Pakistan's bill was already passed last year. That's just the first English copy of it I could find. It's been law for over a year now. And Iran is Shia which isn't what you were talking about.

Looked it up and it appears you are right. It was upheld by the court however because the court is secular and follows English common law. If the court followed a fiqh, it would overturn the bill.

Praise Allah it doesn't, then.

[Nakena]

Sunnis don't recognize sex change and gender-mixing is not allowed in Islam.

And zero fucks were given, as we're talking the Arab Republic of Egypt (with freedom of religion as per art.64 of its Constitution), not a fucking Caliphate.

They banned atheism.

Egypt Could Make Atheism Illegal Amid Harsh Crackdown on Nonbelievers

Oh lets not get started about that italian student.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Looked it up and it appears you are right. It was upheld by the court however because the court is secular and follows English common law. If the court followed a fiqh, it would overturn the bill.

Praise Allah it doesn't, then.

It doesn't due to colonialism.

[Grenartia]

Praise Allah it doesn't, then.

It doesn't due to colonialism.

Call that the silver lining of colonialism, then.

[Fascist Soyouso]

Malik is pre op, risk from police is a lot greater than from inmates

How far along someone is in their transition doesn't stop people from doing things like that. Simply knowing they're trans is enough.

[Inkopolitia]

Even if this sentence had any information of importance to deliver, which it hasn’t, then even under your rules should she be in a female prison.

Sunni Islam does not recognize sex change.

So now torture is a-ok just because your religion doesn't recognize actual human beings and their feelings?

[New Bremerton]

So the "secular" Sisi regime is really not much better than the Muslim Brotherhood? Is Sisi's desire to pander to radical Islamists to remain in power really that overriding? And I thought things would be just a teeny bit better for Coptic Christians, LGBT Egyptians and atheists alike. The only good I can think of is that Cairo has been taking a very hard line against radical Islamist terror groups in the Sinai peninsula.

[Nakena]

So the "secular" Sisi regime is really not much better than the Muslim Brotherhood?

No. See the many links posted across the thread.

Is Sisi's desire to pander to radical Islamists to remain in power really that overriding?

He tries to pander to islamist and fundamentalist sentiments. Probably to prove some point or some shit like that. "Hey look I am quite hard on enforcing Islamic values" or so. While actually mass executing a lot of MB members. Which... is kinda hypocrite.

And I thought things would be just a teeny bit better for Coptic Christians, LGBT Egyptians and atheists alike. The only good I can think of is that Cairo has been taking a very hard line against radical Islamist terror groups in the Sinai peninsula.

No they'r argueably worse. El-Sisis regime is easily one of the worst in the middle east. I have severe doubts about their hard line. It seems more like arbitary outburst of wanton violence and oppression. Which is more sign of weakness than strength.

[Kowani]

Praise Allah it doesn't, then.

It doesn't due to colonialism.

Colonialism had many downsides. This is not one of them.

[Al Mumtahanah]

It doesn't due to colonialism.

Colonialism had many downsides. This is not one of them.

Comes with some things you would find disagreeable too. Conviction for homosexuality is much easier in colonial law than in Shariaa.

[Kowani]

Colonialism had many downsides. This is not one of them.

Comes with some things you would find disagreeable too. Conviction for homosexuality is much easier in colonial law than in Shariaa.

And yet people are still attempting to repeal colonial law.

[Crockerland]

Sunni Islam does not recognize sex change.

So now torture is a-ok just because your religion doesn't recognize actual human beings and their feelings?

Torture is explicitly sanctioned in the religion of Islam.

https://muflihun.com/muslim/16/4131
"Anas reported: Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukl came to Allah's Messenger ﷺ and swore allegiance to him on Islam, but found the climate of that land uncogenial to their health and thus they became sick, and they made complaint of that to Allah's Messenger ﷺ, and he said: Why don't you go to (the fold) of our camels along with our shepherd, and make use of their milk and urine. They said: Yes. They set out and drank their (camels') milk and urine and regained their health. They killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. This (news) reached Allah's Messenger ﷺ and he sent them on their track and they were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died."

http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=33
"This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement,"

[Inkopolitia]

So now torture is a-ok just because your religion doesn't recognize actual human beings and their feelings?

Torture is explicitly sanctioned in the religion of Islam.

https://muflihun.com/muslim/16/4131
"Anas reported: Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukl came to Allah's Messenger ﷺ and swore allegiance to him on Islam, but found the climate of that land uncogenial to their health and thus they became sick, and they made complaint of that to Allah's Messenger ﷺ, and he said: Why don't you go to (the fold) of our camels along with our shepherd, and make use of their milk and urine. They said: Yes. They set out and drank their (camels') milk and urine and regained their health. They killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. This (news) reached Allah's Messenger ﷺ and he sent them on their track and they were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died."

http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=5&verse=33
"This is the recompense of those who fight against God and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement,"

Emphasis on the italics bold. Is that torturing people? No, according to what you posted, your religion calls for people to get their hands and feet chopped off them because they don't agree with Islam.

Regardless, what Egypt is doing and has done to LGBT people is just barbaric. Read the OP and what Egyptian authorities do to people just because they happen to not be straight or cis.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Comes with some things you would find disagreeable too. Conviction for homosexuality is much easier in colonial law than in Shariaa.

And yet people are still attempting to repeal colonial law.

Yes there is a large anti-colonial legal movement, Jamaat-e-Islami.

[Grenartia]

Colonialism had many downsides. This is not one of them.

Comes with some things you would find disagreeable too. Conviction for homosexuality is much easier in colonial law than in Shariaa.

It should be legal in both systems.

[Garner Industrial State]

every middle eastern oil generalissimo should be guillotined

[Arlenton]

Probably because he's a guy?

[Inkopolitia]

Probably because he's a guy?

She's not a guy. She's a woman.

[Paleoconservative Citizens]

Wait I don't understand, is the transgender person Male to Female or Female to Male?

[Grenartia]

Wait I don't understand, is the transgender person Male to Female or Female to Male?

What is so hard to understand about the term "transgender woman"?

[Paleoconservative Citizens]

Because a Transgender Woman can mean a Woman who became a Man
Or a Man who became a Woman.