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Should the Führer bunker in Berlin be opened?

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Postby Bonenburg » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:26 pm

Duhon wrote:Salt that particular earth. The last thing Germany needs is a shrine to the human shitstain that is fucking sHitler.

Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:30 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
Duhon wrote:Salt that particular earth. The last thing Germany needs is a shrine to the human shitstain that is fucking sHitler.

Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.

Oh joy, a Hitler apologist. :roll:
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Postby Bonenburg » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:33 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Bonenburg wrote:Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.

Oh joy, a Hitler apologist. :roll:

Well he should have killed the muslims instead of the jews.

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Postby Ruffletrump » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:35 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Oh joy, a Hitler apologist. :roll:

Well he should have killed the muslims instead of the jews.


That's quite an interesting viewpoint to have.... :unsure:

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Postby Lanorth » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:37 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Oh joy, a Hitler apologist. :roll:

Well he should have killed the muslims instead of the jews.

What the absolute fuck?
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:37 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Oh joy, a Hitler apologist. :roll:

Well he should have killed the muslims instead of the jews.

Still bad either way. You're still a Hitler apologist. You can't change being a Nazi by saying "oh he should've killed [INSERT RACIAL GROUP HERE]" like how you can't change being a Stalinist apologizer by saying "oh Stalin shouldn't have killed all of the jewish doctors, he should've killed [INSERT LITERALLY ANY GROUP HERE]"
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Postby Tristainland » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:41 pm

If it is restored and turned into a museum, it will just become a memorial/shrine for neo-Nazis.

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Postby Le Slavador » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:42 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
Duhon wrote:Salt that particular earth. The last thing Germany needs is a shrine to the human shitstain that is fucking sHitler.

Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.

It still makes him despicable.
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Postby Bonenburg » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:44 pm

Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:
Bonenburg wrote:Well he should have killed the muslims instead of the jews.

Still bad either way. You're still a Hitler apologist. You can't change being a Nazi by saying "oh he should've killed [INSERT RACIAL GROUP HERE]" like how you can't change being a Stalinist apologizer by saying "oh Stalin shouldn't have killed all of the jewish doctors, he should've killed [INSERT LITERALLY ANY GROUP HERE]"

I am not a nazi. I just made a comment on how Hitler did the things he promised. I don't support the bombing of Rotterdam or the dumb mistake of invading Russia in winter.
I think Islam should be wiped out from europe in any way, i would prefer them to leave europe unless they adapt to european values.

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Postby Tristainland » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:44 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
Duhon wrote:Salt that particular earth. The last thing Germany needs is a shrine to the human shitstain that is fucking sHitler.

Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.


He promised victory and certainly didn't deliver on that ;)

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Postby Ruffletrump » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:45 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
Duhon wrote:Salt that particular earth. The last thing Germany needs is a shrine to the human shitstain that is fucking sHitler.

Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.


So the fact that he carried out his plans to slaughter millions, if not tens of millions of people somehow overrides all of the evil that such a deed entails?(that's without even mentioning the 12 plus years of oppression, innumerable war crimes, plunging the world into war, etc)

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Postby Highever » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:46 pm

Tristainland wrote:If it is restored and turned into a museum, it will just become a memorial/shrine for neo-Nazis.

That's why they should turn it into an aquarium or nightclub like what has been done with other nazi architecture, if there was anything to even open that is.
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Postby Bonenburg » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:47 pm

Tristainland wrote:If it is restored and turned into a museum, it will just become a memorial/shrine for neo-Nazis.

That is if it could get restored.

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Postby Alien Overlord » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:48 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
Duhon wrote:Salt that particular earth. The last thing Germany needs is a shrine to the human shitstain that is fucking sHitler.

Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.

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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:48 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
Union of Sovereign States and Republics wrote:Still bad either way. You're still a Hitler apologist. You can't change being a Nazi by saying "oh he should've killed [INSERT RACIAL GROUP HERE]" like how you can't change being a Stalinist apologizer by saying "oh Stalin shouldn't have killed all of the jewish doctors, he should've killed [INSERT LITERALLY ANY GROUP HERE]"

I am not a nazi. I just made a comment on how Hitler did the things he promised. I don't support the bombing of Rotterdam or the dumb mistake of invading Russia in winter.
I think Islam should be wiped out from europe in any way, i would prefer them to leave europe unless they adapt to european values.

Hitler didn't invade Russia in winter, he invaded in June

Anyway, that doesn't change the fact that you're against a religion just because it exists. That's like me saying "hey, you know how there's [religious group that isn't Christian] existing in the United States? why don't we just exterminate every single one of them" it's completely illogical
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Postby Bonenburg » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:48 pm

Ruffletrump wrote:
Bonenburg wrote:Hitler actually did what he what he promised unlike modern politicians.


So the fact that he carried out his plans to slaughter millions, if not tens of millions of people somehow overrides all of the evil that such a deed entails?(that's without even mentioning the 12 plus years of oppression, innumerable war crimes, plunging the world into war, etc)

No i should have clarified my statement better,

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Postby Ruffletrump » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:57 pm

Bonenburg wrote:
Ruffletrump wrote:
So the fact that he carried out his plans to slaughter millions, if not tens of millions of people somehow overrides all of the evil that such a deed entails?(that's without even mentioning the 12 plus years of oppression, innumerable war crimes, plunging the world into war, etc)

No i should have clarified my statement better,


It still doesn't change the fact that you said it. That's without even mentioning how some of your other comments in this thread can be read.

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Postby Peatiktist » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:01 pm

Making the Fuhrer bunker a museum might be nice.

But considering modern Germany is hellbent on removing all traces of the Nazi era from existance, they're more likely to demolish it.
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Postby Highever » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:13 pm

Peatiktist wrote:Making the Fuhrer bunker a museum might be nice.

But considering modern Germany is hellbent on removing all traces of the Nazi era from existance, they're more likely to demolish it.

It's pretty understandable why. Usually tho like I mentioned earlier they are converted into something else that isnt a meuseum.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:14 pm

Profiting off Nazi tourism feels wrong in a way that you really shouldn't have to think about.
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:26 pm

A moldy bunker that reeks of low quality cigarettes and dead nazis whilst being claustrophobic af? Leave it.
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Postby BlazingAngel » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:33 pm

I doubt that is should be used as a museum. Someone mentioned here that they'll have to restore it to the 1940s setting and my intake is that it'll cause issues among the visitors regarding of size and crowd control.

Do you realized how cramped it is inside the bunker? Like holy shit it's cramped (according to historical documents). You'll need to stock up on butters just to get around.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:36 pm

Think of the possibilities you could put a Hitler Dummy in there and I could pay like 5000 dollars to shoot the Hitler dummy. Maybe say something cool in Russian. Russian speakers can you give me some cool one liners for shooting Hitler.
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Postby Highever » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:37 pm

Greed and Death wrote:Think of the possibilities you could put a Hitler Dummy in there and I could pay like 5000 dollars to shoot the Hitler dummy. Maybe say something cool in Russian. Russian speakers can you give me some cool one liners for shooting Hitler.

If they turned it into some sort of theme attraction that was basically Wolfenstein IRL I would fully support this.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:42 pm

BlazingAngel wrote:Do you realized how cramped it is inside the bunker? Like holy shit it's cramped (according to historical documents). You'll need to stock up on butters just to get around.

Judging by the sheer number of times that the site has been disturbed and various parts of it destroyed over the years, it is highly unlikely that enough of it actually survives to make it into a visitor attraction anyway.
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