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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Another huge problem with the IQ argument for things like this is how drastically it changes in accordance with quality of education and other things, which would not be the case if it was genetic. In 1940's Britain the average IQ from todays tests would be about 86. For comparison Uganda today is 84, almost the exact same as 1940's Britain. This is literally the worst argument for racialists to use cuz there's no basis for it lol.



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Phenotypical IQ can change rapidly. Not genotypical IQ. So for example if malnutrition is eliminated in India we may get an average phenotypical IQ of 95-105. It does not make IQ invalid as a measure of intelligence.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:19 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Another huge problem with the IQ argument for things like this is how drastically it changes in accordance with quality of education and other things, which would not be the case if it was genetic. In 1940's Britain the average IQ from todays tests would be about 86. For comparison Uganda today is 84, almost the exact same as 1940's Britain. This is literally the worst argument for racialists to use cuz there's no basis for it lol.



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Phenotypical IQ can change rapidly. Not genotypical IQ. So for example if malnutrition is eliminated in India we may get an average phenotypical IQ of 95-105. It does not make IQ invalid as a measure of intelligence.

The problem with this argument is that there is zero way to measure "genotypical IQ."
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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:26 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:
Phenotypical IQ can change rapidly. Not genotypical IQ. So for example if malnutrition is eliminated in India we may get an average phenotypical IQ of 95-105. It does not make IQ invalid as a measure of intelligence.

The problem with this argument is that there is zero way to measure "genotypical IQ."

You are right on that one. However we can still compare environments.

For example North Korea being poorer and has a lot more malnutrition compared to Detroit is an objective fact. If nutrition in North Korea is objectively much worse than nutrition in Detroit we should expect the difference between the phenotypical IQ and the genotypical IQ to be smaller in Detroit compared to North Korea.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:33 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Israel is an ethnostate, of course they're pissed about miscegenation.

Whether it is an ethnostate is irrelevant. Why shall a high-IQ, successful tribe like miscegenation? In this case miscegenation can only serve one positive purpose, namely creating some form of even higher IQ, even more successful people which usually doesn't work but when it occasionally works it works.


Considering that the average sephardi jew (most of whom come from more impoverished nations than many ashkenazim) tend to have an IQ 20 points lower, I doubt the Jews are genetically more intelligent than other people. Intelligence is so environmental related, and I could once again go on all day about how ethnic group Iqs aren't set in stone. I prefer them to keep their racial hate elsewhere. Also their so called ethnostate doesn't even respect the sovereignty of nations around them and invaded lebanon during a civil war when they couldn't fight back. They don't respect the right of other people to exist as free individuals and as a result, I do not respect their ethnostate's right to exist. If they want conflict with other people, the feeling is mutual as far as I'm concerned
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:36 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The problem with this argument is that there is zero way to measure "genotypical IQ."

You are right on that one. However we can still compare environments.

For example North Korea being poorer and has a lot more malnutrition compared to Detroit is an objective fact. If nutrition in North Korea is objectively much worse than nutrition in Detroit we should expect the difference between the phenotypical IQ and the genotypical IQ to be smaller in Detroit compared to North Korea.


The average IQ in Serbia is only 89. It's only about 86 in Albania and Ireland is about 93. These countries are undeniably European and yet their IQ scores are similar to that of detroit. Even more peculiar, the average Irish American IQ is around 101, and in the 1970s Ireland had an average Iq of only about 87. iQ can change and is very environmental, but fascists of every race would rather their race be supreme somehow instead of living in a world where people are really on a more level playing field where a simple change in educstion, socio-economic status or nutrition could radically change IQ scores
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:42 pm

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Nature is not equal lol

Yep. Nature believes in "might makes right".

That’s why the T-Rex is the world’s top predator.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:55 pm

Kowani wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Yep. Nature believes in "might makes right".

That’s why the T-Rex is the world’s top predator.


All hail the T-Rex master race.

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Postby EastKekistan » Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:59 pm

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Kowani wrote:That’s why the T-Rex is the world’s top predator.


All hail the T-Rex master race.

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Right..before their extinction they were indeed a master species.
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Postby Pacomia » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:02 pm

How did this turn into a conversation about IQ so quickly? It's barely been 2 pages.
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Postby Auristania » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:07 pm

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The universe knows no such thing as equality. In fact it does not even tolerate benevolence well. If you don't want to be punched, punch others.


Actually equality is the natural state. That idea just upsets some people who need to think they're superior for arbitrary reasons.

Universe knows everything about equality e = mc^2 exactly equal. if it were a bit more or a bit less, the Univers would explode.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:39 pm

Pacomia wrote:How did this turn into a conversation about IQ so quickly? It's barely been 2 pages.


See there's the issue. I don't give a shit if the Jews have an IQ of 1000000000. I'm not about to let some zionist hate monger attempt to destroy other groups of people just cause he thinks his people are the chosen. I view Jews like I view everyone else. You wanna go to a symagogue and celebrate hannukah? Alright, that's your right and I will respect it. You wanna bulldoze my house or kill me cause I'm not like you? There's gonna be problems. I can tolerate any ethnic group or religion, but I won't tolerate intolerance. If this Israeli official thinks non Jews are so bad, tell him to give all his non Jewish technology back to america, russia, china, japan or wherever else it came from. Let's see how long he can make it
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:43 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:Well he's clearly an asshole. But what are we meant to talk about?

As is so often the case, the thread is over in one reply.
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Northwest Slobovia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well he's clearly an asshole. But what are we meant to talk about?

As is so often the case, the thread is over in one reply.


This thread is dead. R.I.P. 2019-2019.

Fr what are we supposed to talk about
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Postby Kowani » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:29 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
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All hail the T-Rex master race.

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Right..before their extinction they were indeed a master species.

I believe you have missed the point.
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Kuominwave wrote:In my humble opinion, there’s at least a small difference between Jews being systematically exterminated in concentration camps, and Jews voluntarily marrying non-Jews.

In the opinion of Rafi Peretz, you're the lovechild of Josef Mengele and Reinhard Heydrich for holding such an opinion.
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Kuominwave wrote:In my humble opinion, there’s at least a small difference between Jews being systematically exterminated in concentration camps, and Jews voluntarily marrying non-Jews.

In the opinion of Rafi Peretz, you're the lovechild of Josef Mengele and Reinhard Heydrich for holding such an opinion.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:08 pm

Three cheers for the Israeli ethnostate!

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Postby New Bremerton » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:38 pm

Guy's an idiot. Jews are racially diverse and extremely miscegenated. The children of mixed Arab-Jewish couples are Jewish, since they have at least one grandparent who is Jewish, according to Israeli law. It's the Arab minority and culture that stands to lose out from intermarriage. Judaism traditionally only requires that the mother be Jewish.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:Israel is an ethnostate, of course they're pissed about miscegenation.


You'd think that the people of Israel, with their history of persecution and genocide by ethno-nationalists, would be the last people to support the evils of ethno-nationalism.
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First American Empire wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Israel is an ethnostate, of course they're pissed about miscegenation.


You'd think that the people of Israel, with their history of persecution and genocide by ethno-nationalists, would be the last people to support the evils of nationalism.


Ethnonationalism =/= nationalism.
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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You'd think that the people of Israel, with their history of persecution and genocide by ethno-nationalists, would be the last people to support the evils of nationalism.


Ethnonationalism =/= nationalism.


I may not like nationalism in general, but I actually meant to say ethno-nationalism this time. I've edited the post to fix that.
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Rightwing Orthodox Jewish leader is an ignorant racist shit head, news at 11.
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:24 am

Intelligence tests are pointless. It's impossible to unpick the vast array of environmental factors from your actual results. They're broadly useful for the following purposes:

1) Convincing people who were smart enough that they were able to coast through school but never learned the value of perseverance and hit a wall when they entered higher education that they've got a really high IQ so the rest doesn't matter.

2) Getting gullible people to part with lots of money for membership into high IQ societies.

3) Detecting learning differences such as dyslexia and dyscalculia - discrepancies in different things IQ tests measure - when also analysed and performed by a trained psychologist - can lead to a diagnosis of a learning difference that will help an individual develop coping strategies.

That's it for IQ tests.

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They're a government minister, right? At the absolute very least this, coupled with other interesting utterances from Likud, marks dangerous and growing ethnonationalist sentiment in Israel's government. That's not a good thing. What'd be your response if our minister for education came out against race mixing?
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