I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't believe that tienamen square happened either.
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by Whiteumbreon » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:38 pm
by Salandriagado » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:39 pm
Saiwania wrote:Hanafuridake wrote:Why should your personal preference matter to other people?
Because if mass immigration and globalism keeps being pushed onto majority White countries for the sake of diversity and liberalism and this keeps being accepted, those countries will gradually not be majority White anymore, and in the long run- Whites will trend towards extinction if not permanent minority status.
If anyone at all, finds the White phenotype appealing at all: it should be a concern of theirs that there be at least some parts of the world where Whites are allowed to be a majority White nation to the exclusion of most other racial groups.
by Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:41 pm
Saiwania wrote:The concern of this Israeli politician is almost the same. They worry that if Israel doesn't limit the presence of non-Jews within Israel's borders, that the nation will no longer be majority Jewish in the long run- and Zionism overall will collapse as a result. He's not wrong to conclude that if his ethnicity is permissive enough as to breed with or let in other ethnicities via lax immigration that they'll wind up diluted until extinct or as a permanent minority more likely.
by Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:46 pm
Gormwood wrote:All the while white supremacists kept chanting "Jews Will Not Replace Us" Rafi Peretz was screaming "Jews Are Being Replaced." Ironic comedy.
by Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:53 pm
Fahran wrote:Gormwood wrote:All the while white supremacists kept chanting "Jews Will Not Replace Us" Rafi Peretz was screaming "Jews Are Being Replaced." Ironic comedy.
Except Jews are actually being assimilated and replaced in a lot of places. And race and ethnicity are not the same thing. Would you treat indigenous peoples in Mexico who often feel pressured to assimilate and give up their culture so callously?
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by Saiwania » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:58 pm
Fahran wrote:Yes, but, as I have stated multiple times, race and ethnicity are not the same thing. An Anglo-American has more in common with an African American than he has in common with an Englishman in terms of dialect, slang, cuisine, sporting culture, and religious denomination. An African American has a lot more in common with an Anglo-American than he has in common with Ghanaian in terms of language, dialect, religion, cuisine, sporting culture, etc. That sort of illustrates the basic distinction between ethnicity and race.
by Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:59 pm
Saiwania wrote:Fahran wrote:Yes, but, as I have stated multiple times, race and ethnicity are not the same thing. An Anglo-American has more in common with an African American than he has in common with an Englishman in terms of dialect, slang, cuisine, sporting culture, and religious denomination. An African American has a lot more in common with an Anglo-American than he has in common with Ghanaian in terms of language, dialect, religion, cuisine, sporting culture, etc. That sort of illustrates the basic distinction between ethnicity and race.
A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.
by Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:01 pm
Gormwood wrote:That's cute. Conservatives who rant and rave about foreigners refusing to assimilate (i.e. whitebread their own cultural identity out of existence) are now weeping and gnashing their teeth that Jews are assimilating.
Saiwania wrote:A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.
by Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:04 pm
Fahran wrote:Gormwood wrote:That's cute. Conservatives who rant and rave about foreigners refusing to assimilate (i.e. whitebread their own cultural identity out of existence) are now weeping and gnashing their teeth that Jews are assimilating.
What's your position? Should people be assimilated into majority culture or not?
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:04 pm
by Domina Nostra Nova Terra » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:05 pm
Saiwania wrote:A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.
by Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:06 pm
Gormwood wrote:I prefer diversity myself.
by Samudera Darussalam » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:08 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What he said was a stupid false equivalence statement.
by Vassenor » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:08 pm
Fahran wrote:Gormwood wrote:That's cute. Conservatives who rant and rave about foreigners refusing to assimilate (i.e. whitebread their own cultural identity out of existence) are now weeping and gnashing their teeth that Jews are assimilating.
What's your position? Should people be assimilated into majority culture or not?Saiwania wrote:A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.
Why do you value skin color over culture and/or character?
by Hanafuridake » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:10 pm
Saiwania wrote:Hanafuridake wrote:Why should your personal preference matter to other people?
Because if mass immigration and globalism keeps being pushed onto majority White countries for the sake of diversity and liberalism and this keeps being accepted, those countries will gradually not be majority White anymore, and in the long run- Whites will trend towards extinction if not permanent minority status.
If anyone at all, finds the White phenotype appealing at all: it should be a concern of theirs that there be at least some parts of the world where Whites are allowed to be a majority White nation to the exclusion of most other racial groups.
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by Domina Nostra Nova Terra » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:11 pm
Fahran wrote:Gormwood wrote:I prefer diversity myself.
Then you have no problem with the basic premise that people who value diversity or even their own culture should seek to preserve it?
With regard to the conservatives I quoted, and I believe two of the sources were quasi-conservative, I think their position is more akin to wanting to preserve in so far as possible the cultural, religious, and linguistic makeup of particular communities and countries. It's not an automatically hypocritical position if you support border control and robust nation-states. Or if you distinguish between different types of states and the interests of different groups.
by Diarcesia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:13 pm
by Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:14 pm
Fahran wrote:Gormwood wrote:I prefer diversity myself.
Then you have no problem with the basic premise that people who value diversity or even their own culture should seek to preserve it?
With regard to the conservatives I quoted, and I believe two of the sources were quasi-conservative, I think their position is more akin to wanting to preserve in so far as possible the cultural, religious, and linguistic makeup of particular communities and countries. It's not an automatically hypocritical position if you support border control and robust nation-states. Or if you distinguish between different types of states and the interests of different groups.
by Alien Overlord » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:20 pm
Walkerfort wrote:so...
Banning cars will lead to a clusterfuck of mininations everywhere and attempting to mash two Eras together miserably and 1984 style dictatorships
butterfly effect when give a butterfly cocaine
by Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:22 pm
by Alien Overlord » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:36 pm
Gormwood wrote:Alien Overlord wrote:There is nothing inherently wrong with being a white nationalist, just as there is nothing wrong with being a black nationalist.
Other than it automatically affects one's reaction and behavior towards non-whites or non-blacks, especially for those in positions of authority.
Walkerfort wrote:so...
Banning cars will lead to a clusterfuck of mininations everywhere and attempting to mash two Eras together miserably and 1984 style dictatorships
butterfly effect when give a butterfly cocaine
by EastKekistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:02 pm
Salandriagado wrote:EastKekistan wrote:
Botswana is still very violent and it is also full of HIV.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... icide_rate
Do you want to just scroll down to Burkina Faso in that list there. Or Liberia. Or São Tomé and Príncipe. Or Mozambique. Or Cameroon. Or Somalia. Or Niger. Or Angola. Or Kenya. Or Sudan. Or Zambia. Because all of those have lower intentional homicide rates than Greenland or the US.
by EastKekistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:02 pm
Alien Overlord wrote:Gormwood wrote:Other than it automatically affects one's reaction and behavior towards non-whites or non-blacks, especially for those in positions of authority.
I've met plenty of blacks who are extremely proud of their own race and are capable of getting along with whites without being discriminatory towards them. Simply being proud of your own ethnicity doesn't necessarily mean you are going to 'beat down' on others from a different race, so to speak. The better politicians should be able to separate their personal views and how they go about their job.
by EastKekistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:05 pm
Hanafuridake wrote:Saiwania wrote:
Because if mass immigration and globalism keeps being pushed onto majority White countries for the sake of diversity and liberalism and this keeps being accepted, those countries will gradually not be majority White anymore, and in the long run- Whites will trend towards extinction if not permanent minority status.
If anyone at all, finds the White phenotype appealing at all: it should be a concern of theirs that there be at least some parts of the world where Whites are allowed to be a majority White nation to the exclusion of most other racial groups.
You didn't answer my question. Why should anyone care about a specific racial phenotype?
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