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Postby Whiteumbreon » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:38 pm

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Look at how peaceful China, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Japan are. :-)


You literally just called fucking China peaceful. Stop being ridiculous. Also, are we forgetting our history?

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't believe that tienamen square happened either.

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Postby Salandriagado » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:39 pm

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Hanafuridake wrote:Why should your personal preference matter to other people?


Because if mass immigration and globalism keeps being pushed onto majority White countries for the sake of diversity and liberalism and this keeps being accepted, those countries will gradually not be majority White anymore, and in the long run- Whites will trend towards extinction if not permanent minority status.

If anyone at all, finds the White phenotype appealing at all: it should be a concern of theirs that there be at least some parts of the world where Whites are allowed to be a majority White nation to the exclusion of most other racial groups.


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Postby Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:41 pm

Saiwania wrote:The concern of this Israeli politician is almost the same. They worry that if Israel doesn't limit the presence of non-Jews within Israel's borders, that the nation will no longer be majority Jewish in the long run- and Zionism overall will collapse as a result. He's not wrong to conclude that if his ethnicity is permissive enough as to breed with or let in other ethnicities via lax immigration that they'll wind up diluted until extinct or as a permanent minority more likely.

Yes, but, as I have stated multiple times, race and ethnicity are not the same thing. An Anglo-American has more in common with an African American than he has in common with an Englishman in terms of dialect, slang, cuisine, sporting culture, and religious denomination. An African American has a lot more in common with an Anglo-American than he has in common with Ghanaian in terms of language, dialect, religion, cuisine, sporting culture, etc. That sort of illustrates the basic distinction between ethnicity and race.

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Postby Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:46 pm

Gormwood wrote:All the while white supremacists kept chanting "Jews Will Not Replace Us" Rafi Peretz was screaming "Jews Are Being Replaced." Ironic comedy.

Except Jews are actually being assimilated and replaced in a lot of places. And race and ethnicity are not the same thing. Would you treat indigenous peoples in Mexico who often feel pressured to assimilate and give up their culture so callously?

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:53 pm

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Gormwood wrote:All the while white supremacists kept chanting "Jews Will Not Replace Us" Rafi Peretz was screaming "Jews Are Being Replaced." Ironic comedy.

Except Jews are actually being assimilated and replaced in a lot of places. And race and ethnicity are not the same thing. Would you treat indigenous peoples in Mexico who often feel pressured to assimilate and give up their culture so callously?

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That's cute. Conservatives who rant and rave about foreigners refusing to assimilate (i.e. whitebread their own cultural identity out of existence) are now weeping and gnashing their teeth that Jews are assimilating.
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Postby Tokora » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:54 pm

“because of the rate of mixed marriages, Jewish people have “lost 6 million people,” which is “like a second Holocaust,”

I don't follow.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:58 pm

Fahran wrote:Yes, but, as I have stated multiple times, race and ethnicity are not the same thing. An Anglo-American has more in common with an African American than he has in common with an Englishman in terms of dialect, slang, cuisine, sporting culture, and religious denomination. An African American has a lot more in common with an Anglo-American than he has in common with Ghanaian in terms of language, dialect, religion, cuisine, sporting culture, etc. That sort of illustrates the basic distinction between ethnicity and race.


A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:59 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Fahran wrote:Yes, but, as I have stated multiple times, race and ethnicity are not the same thing. An Anglo-American has more in common with an African American than he has in common with an Englishman in terms of dialect, slang, cuisine, sporting culture, and religious denomination. An African American has a lot more in common with an Anglo-American than he has in common with Ghanaian in terms of language, dialect, religion, cuisine, sporting culture, etc. That sort of illustrates the basic distinction between ethnicity and race.


A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.

Let's not pretend literal coloration matters. You'd still consider an albino African American to be black.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:01 pm

Gormwood wrote:That's cute. Conservatives who rant and rave about foreigners refusing to assimilate (i.e. whitebread their own cultural identity out of existence) are now weeping and gnashing their teeth that Jews are assimilating.

What's your position? Should people be assimilated into majority culture or not?

Saiwania wrote:A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.

Why do you value skin color over culture and/or character?
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:04 pm

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:That's cute. Conservatives who rant and rave about foreigners refusing to assimilate (i.e. whitebread their own cultural identity out of existence) are now weeping and gnashing their teeth that Jews are assimilating.

What's your position? Should people be assimilated into majority culture or not?

I prefer diversity myself.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:04 pm

What he said was a stupid false equivalence statement.

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Postby Domina Nostra Nova Terra » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:05 pm

Saiwania wrote:A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.

Why do you value skin color over culture and/or character?[/quote]
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Postby Fahran » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:06 pm

Gormwood wrote:I prefer diversity myself.

Then you have no problem with the basic premise that people who value diversity or even their own culture should seek to preserve it?

With regard to the conservatives I quoted, and I believe two of the sources were quasi-conservative, I think their position is more akin to wanting to preserve in so far as possible the cultural, religious, and linguistic makeup of particular communities and countries. It's not an automatically hypocritical position if you support border control and robust nation-states. Or if you distinguish between different types of states and the interests of different groups.

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:08 pm

Looking from a Jewish perspective, it's a legitimate concern, but liken it to 'Holocaust' seems to be exaggeration. It's not like Jews are physically exterminated by force.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What he said was a stupid false equivalence statement.

Agreed.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:08 pm

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:That's cute. Conservatives who rant and rave about foreigners refusing to assimilate (i.e. whitebread their own cultural identity out of existence) are now weeping and gnashing their teeth that Jews are assimilating.

What's your position? Should people be assimilated into majority culture or not?

Saiwania wrote:A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.

Why do you value skin color over culture and/or character?


They're a white nationalist. That's why.
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Postby Hanafuridake » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:10 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:Why should your personal preference matter to other people?


Because if mass immigration and globalism keeps being pushed onto majority White countries for the sake of diversity and liberalism and this keeps being accepted, those countries will gradually not be majority White anymore, and in the long run- Whites will trend towards extinction if not permanent minority status.

If anyone at all, finds the White phenotype appealing at all: it should be a concern of theirs that there be at least some parts of the world where Whites are allowed to be a majority White nation to the exclusion of most other racial groups.


You didn't answer my question. Why should anyone care about a specific racial phenotype?
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Postby Domina Nostra Nova Terra » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:11 pm

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Gormwood wrote:I prefer diversity myself.

Then you have no problem with the basic premise that people who value diversity or even their own culture should seek to preserve it?

With regard to the conservatives I quoted, and I believe two of the sources were quasi-conservative, I think their position is more akin to wanting to preserve in so far as possible the cultural, religious, and linguistic makeup of particular communities and countries. It's not an automatically hypocritical position if you support border control and robust nation-states. Or if you distinguish between different types of states and the interests of different groups.

Diversity is a great thing, (God willed) its lovely when you go to a new country or nation and experience a totally unique and interesting culture. Like can you imagine the UK without the Scots, English, Irish and Welsh or China without all the various groups?

The problem is when people want to water down that by making the world a melting pot rather than a mosaic. Everyone being the same and having no distinguishing factors other than what McDonalds they eat at. Doesn't take death camps or Nazi style views to see it that way or preserve it but just accepting that people are different and that's wonderful when it doesn't cause people's deaths etc.
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:13 pm

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Saiwania wrote:A White Englishman is still a better match for the Anglo-American than the African American is, in terms of producing White offspring. That is what matters to me.

Why do you value skin color over culture and/or character?


My guess is that a white person is an expy for a member of the Anglo-Germanic culture, something he views as civilized and enlightened.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:14 pm

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:I prefer diversity myself.

Then you have no problem with the basic premise that people who value diversity or even their own culture should seek to preserve it?

With regard to the conservatives I quoted, and I believe two of the sources were quasi-conservative, I think their position is more akin to wanting to preserve in so far as possible the cultural, religious, and linguistic makeup of particular communities and countries. It's not an automatically hypocritical position if you support border control and robust nation-states. Or if you distinguish between different types of states and the interests of different groups.

It's an individual choice please. It's rather condescending and hypocritical that conservatives demand one set of ethnicity to culturally eradicate themselves before deeming them worthy of coming to America while treating Jews who assimilate similar to or exactly like they impose on dark-skinned foreigners the same as endangered species of animals. How long before there are Jew breeding programs and Jewish wildlife sanctuaries as part of enforced conservation?
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Postby Alien Overlord » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:20 pm

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Fahran wrote:What's your position? Should people be assimilated into majority culture or not?


Why do you value skin color over culture and/or character?


They're a white nationalist. That's why.

There is nothing inherently wrong with being a white nationalist, just as there is nothing wrong with being a black nationalist.
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Yup, who else? Workers? Ha, as if we need them in our anarcho-primitivist-orwellian utopia dystopia federation.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:22 pm

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They're a white nationalist. That's why.

There is nothing inherently wrong with being a white nationalist, just as there is nothing wrong with being a black nationalist.

Other than it automatically affects one's reaction and behavior towards non-whites or non-blacks, especially for those in positions of authority.
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Postby Alien Overlord » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:36 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:There is nothing inherently wrong with being a white nationalist, just as there is nothing wrong with being a black nationalist.

Other than it automatically affects one's reaction and behavior towards non-whites or non-blacks, especially for those in positions of authority.

I've met plenty of blacks who are extremely proud of their own race and are capable of getting along with whites without being discriminatory towards them. Simply being proud of your own ethnicity doesn't necessarily mean you are going to 'beat down' on others from a different race, so to speak. The better politicians should be able to separate their personal views and how they go about their job.
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Ayissor wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:You mean the proles living in tribes right? The ones who were also brainwashed 1984 style?

Yup, who else? Workers? Ha, as if we need them in our anarcho-primitivist-orwellian utopia dystopia federation.

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Postby EastKekistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:02 pm

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Botswana is still very violent and it is also full of HIV.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... icide_rate


Do you want to just scroll down to Burkina Faso in that list there. Or Liberia. Or São Tomé and Príncipe. Or Mozambique. Or Cameroon. Or Somalia. Or Niger. Or Angola. Or Kenya. Or Sudan. Or Zambia. Because all of those have lower intentional homicide rates than Greenland or the US.


>Implying that America is safe.

That's a very low standard..
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Alien Overlord wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Other than it automatically affects one's reaction and behavior towards non-whites or non-blacks, especially for those in positions of authority.

I've met plenty of blacks who are extremely proud of their own race and are capable of getting along with whites without being discriminatory towards them. Simply being proud of your own ethnicity doesn't necessarily mean you are going to 'beat down' on others from a different race, so to speak. The better politicians should be able to separate their personal views and how they go about their job.


Not all ethnic pride is legitimate.

I can understand white pride because it actually makes sense since whites have achieved a lot. I can understand Jewish pride because Jews have achieved a lot...
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Postby EastKekistan » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:05 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
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Because if mass immigration and globalism keeps being pushed onto majority White countries for the sake of diversity and liberalism and this keeps being accepted, those countries will gradually not be majority White anymore, and in the long run- Whites will trend towards extinction if not permanent minority status.

If anyone at all, finds the White phenotype appealing at all: it should be a concern of theirs that there be at least some parts of the world where Whites are allowed to be a majority White nation to the exclusion of most other racial groups.


You didn't answer my question. Why should anyone care about a specific racial phenotype?

Because he is a trad. Trads have this weird tendency to conform to their ancestors and force their descendants to conform to them. You can find more people like that in the Middle East. Pre-modern NE Asia was also full of trads.
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