California Offers Healthcare Benefits To Illegal Immigrants

[Fartsniffage]

If you can find the bit of the US Constitution that says States have rights then I'll buy you a beer.

What I’m saying is that in law a state is technically a corporate person. So technically a state is a person just not the kind we normally think of

Honestly. What the fuck? Where is this written?

[Telconi]

Is there a functional difference?

Yes. People have rights, states have powers. When you confuse the two it becomes impossible for a person to challenge a state since they would be exercising their right, and not a power.

Sorry waiter, I didn't order the word salad.

[Fartsniffage]

Yes. People have rights, states have powers. When you confuse the two it becomes impossible for a person to challenge a state since they would be exercising their right, and not a power.

Sorry waiter, I didn't order the word salad.

I'm sorry. Would you like to replace that with a side of basic English comprehension classes?

[Telconi]

Sorry waiter, I didn't order the word salad.

I'm sorry. Would you like to replace that with a side of basic English comprehension classes?

No thanks, I think I'll go to an establishment that offers something reasonable.

[Kowani]

God damnit people, do some research.

The California Medical Assistance Program (Medi-Cal or MediCal) is California's Medicaid program serving low-income individuals, including families, seniors, persons with disabilities, children in foster care, pregnant women, and childless adults with incomes below 138% of federal poverty level.

If it's only being offered to people below a poverty line, it isn't universal healthcare.

I’m aware. However, universal healthcare in a single state is impossible.

[Thermodolia]

What I’m saying is that in law a state is technically a corporate person. So technically a state is a person just not the kind we normally think of

Honestly. What the fuck? Where is this written?

It’s not in the constitution. It’s just apart of the law that has evolved.

[Fartsniffage]

I'm sorry. Would you like to replace that with a side of basic English comprehension classes?

No thanks, I think I'll go to an establishment that offers something reasonable.

Are you sure? We have a childrens menu and a small crayon pack that might be able to help you understand?

[Fartsniffage]

Honestly. What the fuck? Where is this written?

It’s not in the constitution. It’s just apart of the law that has evolved.

And where in the evolved law is it written? It has to be written down somewhere otherwise it's simply not true.

[Novus America]

If it's only being offered to people below a poverty line, it isn't universal healthcare.

I’m aware. However, universal healthcare in a single state is impossible.

No it is not impossible, even if some level of federal funding and coordination would be better.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

If it's only being offered to people below a poverty line, it isn't universal healthcare.

I’m aware. However, universal healthcare in a single state is impossible.

Why?

[Fartsniffage]

I’m aware. However, universal healthcare in a single state is impossible.

Why?

If a single state created a universal healthcare system then all Americans would be able to use it so millions would move to that state and overwhelm it.

[Ethel mermania]

It’s not in the constitution. It’s just apart of the law that has evolved.

And where in the evolved law is it written? It has to be written down somewhere otherwise it's simply not true.

10th amendment The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Is generally considered where the idea of states rights come from, also a couple of the federalist papers deal with the issue, but i am not remembering which ones

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights

[Ifreann]

Fun fact: A large number of the lone kids in the Concentration Camps already have family sponsors in the US that ICE keeps dragging their feet about releasing them to.

It's almost like we have no idea who the kids are and who their actual family is.

It's almost like this is all being done to cause pain and suffering in the hopes of deterring other immigrants.

---

Why do rural roads not get paved? Why do rural assistance programs not get funding? Why do rural schools not have enough busses?

You have to think about what will happen after implimentation. Once the government has the the burden of this budget, they have to prioritise where to put hospitals, and inevitably rural communities will be made less of a priority. This is also why I am concerned, the elederly who we told we would take care of, now have less support, while we are providing health coverage to young illegal immigrants. The old person needs it more than the immigrant, and this is even more so since the coverage of the immigrants is until 25, which is peak physical health.

Know what's great about governments? When they're democratic. That way if you need a hospital in your area you can tell the government to build you one and since the government does what you say, they'll build you a hospital.

[Ethel mermania]

It's almost like we have no idea who the kids are and who their actual family is.

It's almost like this is all being done to cause pain and suffering in the hopes of deterring other immigrants.

---

You have to think about what will happen after implimentation. Once the government has the the burden of this budget, they have to prioritise where to put hospitals, and inevitably rural communities will be made less of a priority. This is also why I am concerned, the elederly who we told we would take care of, now have less support, while we are providing health coverage to young illegal immigrants. The old person needs it more than the immigrant, and this is even more so since the coverage of the immigrants is until 25, which is peak physical health.

Know what's great about governments? When they're democratic. That way if you need a hospital in your area you can tell the government to build you one and since the government does what you say, they'll build you a hospital.

Not in this country, most new hospitals built are ether charities or not for profits

[New haven america]

Why would it close rural hospitals? The whole point of a single payer system is that everyone pays in and everyone gets healthcare. Since it's not for profit funds can be transferred from wealthy areas to poor areas.

Why do rural roads not get paved? Why do rural assistance programs not get funding? Why do rural schools not have enough busses?

Have you ever, like, IDK, tried talking to your local government about this?

[Fartsniffage]

And where in the evolved law is it written? It has to be written down somewhere otherwise it's simply not true.

10th amendment The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Is generally considered where the idea of states rights come from, also a couple of the federalist papers deal with the issue, but i am not remembering which ones

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights

Powers, not rights. It's literally right there in the Constitution. The states have the powers not delegated to the federal government.

[Telconi]

It's almost like we have no idea who the kids are and who their actual family is.

It's almost like this is all being done to cause pain and suffering in the hopes of deterring other immigrants.

---

You have to think about what will happen after implimentation. Once the government has the the burden of this budget, they have to prioritise where to put hospitals, and inevitably rural communities will be made less of a priority. This is also why I am concerned, the elederly who we told we would take care of, now have less support, while we are providing health coverage to young illegal immigrants. The old person needs it more than the immigrant, and this is even more so since the coverage of the immigrants is until 25, which is peak physical health.

Know what's great about governments? When they're democratic. That way if you need a hospital in your area you can tell the government to build you one and since the government does what you say, they'll build you a hospital.

The government does what I say?

Have you ever considered a career in comedy?

[New haven america]

Yes. People have rights, states have powers. When you confuse the two it becomes impossible for a person to challenge a state since they would be exercising their right, and not a power.

Sorry waiter, I didn't order the word salad.

What part were you having trouble on?

Cause it seems pretty clear to me.

[Telconi]

Sorry waiter, I didn't order the word salad.

What part were you having trouble on?

Cause it seems pretty clear to me.

Of course it does.

[Kaystein]

Provide for our citizens first, then anybody else if we have the resources to spare.

[Novus America]

10th amendment The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Is generally considered where the idea of states rights come from, also a couple of the federalist papers deal with the issue, but i am not remembering which ones

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights

Powers, not rights. It's literally right there in the Constitution. The states have the powers not delegated to the federal government.

Regardless the US is not a unitary state where the government can unilaterally do whatever it wants.

[Trollgaard]

How fucking stupid is this?!

How the fuck to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS get access to public services, period? This is absolutely ludicrous.

Shame on you California. Way to keep drawing more and more illegals into and already overburdened state.

[New haven america]

What part were you having trouble on?

Cause it seems pretty clear to me.

Of course it does.

Not my fault you didn't pay attention in basic English class.

[Ethel mermania]

10th amendment The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Is generally considered where the idea of states rights come from, also a couple of the federalist papers deal with the issue, but i am not remembering which ones

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/States%27_rights

Powers, not rights. It's literally right there in the Constitution. The states have the powers not delegated to the federal government.

So much for the wiki article and federalist papers eh? Anyway In American political theory it has always been called states rights

From the wiki


In American political discourse, states' rights are political powers held for the state governments rather than the federal government according to the United States Constitution, reflecting especially the enumerated powers of Congress and the Tenth Amendment. The enumerated powers that are listed in the Constitution include exclusive federal powers, as well as concurrent powers that are shared with the states, and all of those powers are contrasted with the reserved powers—also called states' rights—that only the states possess

[Bear Stearns]

Why?

If a single state created a universal healthcare system then all Americans would be able to use it so millions would move to that state and overwhelm it.

You mean like how giving healthcare to illegal aliens would work?