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Liriena wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
I mean, the same could be said if there weren't an underclass of non-citizens hanging around at all.

There's a bit of a difference between a humane and applicable policy of, y'know, not being a dick to people already living among you and contributing to your society... and not-so-subtly fantasizing about ethnic cleansing because they're an "underclass of non-citizens".

The Emerald Legion wrote:In addition, there would be less drive to stop proper immigration if the Welfare system was eliminated.

"Starving all poor people to own the aliens" is a nuclear hot take, I'll give you that.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:There's a bit of a difference between a humane and applicable policy of, y'know, not being a dick to people already living among you and contributing to your society... and not-so-subtly fantasizing about ethnic cleansing because they're an "underclass of non-citizens".


"Starving all poor people to own the aliens" is a nuclear hot take, I'll give you that.

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

Necroghastia wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

what the fuck is an "underclass"

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Liriena wrote:Yeah, it's gonna be fun seeing the Republicans in the Bible belt milk some outrage points from California politics during the 2020 campaign. The Facebook boomer memery is gonna be so cringe.

Tbh it's probably gonna work amongst at least some people. I don't have any stats to back it up but pretty much everyone I've talked to except the most extreme of progressives have agreed that the whole "we should give illegals healthcare" line in the debate was a really bad move, and the Dems putting into action is just more fodder for the GOP to use in swing states.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:There's a bit of a difference between a humane and applicable policy of, y'know, not being a dick to people already living among you and contributing to your society... and not-so-subtly fantasizing about ethnic cleansing because they're an "underclass of non-citizens".


"Starving all poor people to own the aliens" is a nuclear hot take, I'll give you that.

Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

Liriena wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

Man, your wording is not helping your point at all.

Liriena wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Funny how you assume I meant Ethnic cleansing given there are many ways to rid ourselves of an underclass of Non-Citizens.

Man, your wording is not helping your point at all.

Nakena wrote:

Azlaake wrote:They're undocumented immigrants, but that doesn't mean they aren't human, I applaud California for this................ "Illegal" Immigration shouldn't be a crime

So you want to come anyone into the United States as they please?

Azlaake wrote:

Nakena wrote:
So you want to come anyone into the United States as they please?

Yes

Azlaake wrote:

Nakena wrote:
So you want to come anyone into the United States as they please?

Yes

Telconi wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tbh it's probably gonna work amongst at least some people. I don't have any stats to back it up but pretty much everyone I've talked to except the most extreme of progressives have agreed that the whole "we should give illegals healthcare" line in the debate was a really bad move, and the Dems putting into action is just more fodder for the GOP to use in swing states.

"Vote R or end up like California" is a pretty compelling argument in swing states. And it's only made worse by the fact that prominent Democrats actively hold up California as the party vanguard.

Kowani wrote:

Telconi wrote:
"Vote R or end up like California" is a pretty compelling argument in swing states. And it's only made worse by the fact that prominent Democrats actively hold up California as the party vanguard.

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

Kowani wrote:

Telconi wrote:
"Vote R or end up like California" is a pretty compelling argument in swing states. And it's only made worse by the fact that prominent Democrats actively hold up California as the party vanguard.

Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Liriena wrote:Man, your wording is not helping your point at all.

It's not meant to. It's meant to point out your assumptions.

The easiest and obvious solution is to make them citizens. Bam. No more underclass.

The Emerald Legion wrote:For a time anyway, but then you need to prevent more from following to fill the hole.

Telconi wrote:

Kowani wrote:Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

"Almost every category"

What categories are those?

Liriena wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

You don't care about that.

The Emerald Legion wrote:
It's not meant to. It's meant to point out your assumptions.

The easiest and obvious solution is to make them citizens. Bam. No more underclass.

I dig it.

The Emerald Legion wrote:For a time anyway, but then you need to prevent more from following to fill the hole.

Oh, that one is easy: you need a new socialist world order that enables the global south to become economically independent and liberates it from the scourge of neo-colonialism.

Liriena wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

You don't care about that.

New Lindale wrote:What the hell, now California is going to be a destination for Health Tourism! Actually, not even that since they're enouraging people to stay

Do you realise if you are a citizen in California, that know you are made less of a priority than someone who just decided to cross the border? What about our aging population, Social Security is basically bankrupt, and now we're making the problem worse?

Paddy O Fernature wrote:

Liriena wrote:You don't care about that.

Please, keep telling me what I do and don't care about, as clearly you know more about that subject then I do. Fucking lol.

Telconi wrote:

Liriena wrote:You don't care about that.


I dig it.


Oh, that one is easy: you need a new socialist world order that enables the global south to become economically independent and liberates it from the scourge of neo-colonialism.

Ironic...

Telconi wrote:

Kowani wrote:Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

"Almost every category"

What categories are those?

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Kowani wrote:Considering that CA beats almost all the red states in almost every category, that’s an argument you can only make to two kinds of people. The uneducated and gun lovers.

idk man we don't have a "human shit in the streets" problem

Liriena wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:You would think California would do something about the homelessness epidemic of Americans literally littering it's streets

You don't care about that.

The Emerald Legion wrote:
It's not meant to. It's meant to point out your assumptions.

The easiest and obvious solution is to make them citizens. Bam. No more underclass.

I dig it.

The Emerald Legion wrote:For a time anyway, but then you need to prevent more from following to fill the hole.

Oh, that one is easy: you need a new socialist world order that enables the global south to become economically independent and liberates it from the scourge of neo-colonialism.

Liriena wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Please, keep telling me what I do and don't care about, as clearly you know more about that subject then I do. Fucking lol.

It's a blatant whataboutism. When was the last time you advocated in favour of policy to help the homeless in its own right, rather than as a counter to another policy?