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Postby Jinstalia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:31 am

Who playing this game follows Jainism? Does anyone think that Jainism is a real amazing religion, I do :)
Love everything about it really, specially the morals it teaches, and how it teaches vegetarianism :)

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:43 am

I think Jainism is an awful religion, mostly because I'm not too keen on that whole 'Do no harm to anything' deal.
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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:45 am

It must be very difficult! Do Jains worry about stepping on ants, even?
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Postby Jinstalia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:55 am

No way is it a awful religion! Its an amazing religion. It teaches equal rights, and the right for anything with a life to live. I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain, but everyone has there own opinions don't they, and Jainism teaches that too. The best thing about the religion is non violence and vegetarianism. They tell of non-violence, because it is right. I would rather have a world full of no war than have one full of war, because people don't have to loose there life for the wrong cause. And it is not hard at all, if you are brought up from birth as a Jain, then you get used to it, ive never ate meat in my life, and I would rather give my life then eat meat and defy my religion.

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Postby Aggicificicerous » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:03 am

Jinstalia wrote:No way is it a awful religion! Its an amazing religion. It teaches equal rights, and the right for anything with a life to live. I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain, but everyone has there own opinions don't they, and Jainism teaches that too. The best thing about the religion is non violence and vegetarianism. They tell of non-violence, because it is right. I would rather have a world full of no war than have one full of war, because people don't have to loose there life for the wrong cause. And it is not hard at all, if you are brought up from birth as a Jain, then you get used to it, ive never ate meat in my life, and I would rather give my life then eat meat and defy my religion.


Except you haven't said what is so special about Jainism itself; one can be non-violent and a vegetarian without being a Jainist.

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Postby Tadmur » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:05 am

Jainism is not as bad as Islam

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Postby Lord-General Drache » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:06 am

Jinstalia wrote:Who playing this game follows Jainism? Does anyone think that Jainism is a real amazing religion, I do :)
Love everything about it really, specially the morals it teaches, and how it teaches vegetarianism :)


I don't. I find the idea that all life, especially insects, is somehow intrinsically sacred to be ill thought out and amusing. Further, we spent millions of years evolving to eat both plants and animals. Why you'd ignore an evolutionary heritage countless members of our species and the species that led to us, is beyond me.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:09 am

Jinstalia wrote:I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain.

Killing animals is the food chain, unless you eat them alive, which is difficult. The food chain is the killing of lower animals by higher animals to trransfer energy up the chain, if the carnivores dopn't kill they don't eat. You woudn't let a poor little cobra starve would you?
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Postby Soniere » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:13 am

I find Jainism a fairly "enlightened" religion, yes.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:13 am

The Corparation wrote:
Jinstalia wrote:I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain.

Killing animals is the food chain, unless you eat them alive, which is difficult. The food chain is the killing of lower animals by higher animals to trransfer energy up the chain, if the carnivores dopn't kill they don't eat. You woudn't let a poor little cobra starve would you?


I think he meant humans....

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:15 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
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Jinstalia wrote:I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain.

Killing animals is the food chain, unless you eat them alive, which is difficult. The food chain is the killing of lower animals by higher animals to trransfer energy up the chain, if the carnivores dopn't kill they don't eat. You woudn't let a poor little cobra starve would you?


I think he meant humans....

We are kind of the top predator on the planet in many ways.
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Postby Vesser » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:16 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
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Jinstalia wrote:I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain.

Killing animals is the food chain, unless you eat them alive, which is difficult. The food chain is the killing of lower animals by higher animals to trransfer energy up the chain, if the carnivores dopn't kill they don't eat. You woudn't let a poor little cobra starve would you?


I think he meant humans....


Yes, but he brought up an interesting point.

If you believe that all life is sacred, would you stand by and let a snake eat a mouse?

Isn't the mouse's life sacred? Isn't he snake's, too?

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Postby Terraliberty » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:17 am

It's one of very few religions I don't detest if that's any help.
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Postby WWII History Geeks » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:42 am

Neutral towards it. I'm not one, but I don't condemn people who are even if I don't agree with it.
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Postby Zeppy » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:46 am

Mutual distrust of Jainism.

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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:48 am

Farnhamia wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
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Jinstalia wrote:I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain.

Killing animals is the food chain, unless you eat them alive, which is difficult. The food chain is the killing of lower animals by higher animals to trransfer energy up the chain, if the carnivores dopn't kill they don't eat. You woudn't let a poor little cobra starve would you?


I think he meant humans....

We are kind of the top predator on the planet in many ways.

So?

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Postby MisanthropicPopulism » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:50 am

Farnhamia wrote:We are kind of the top predator on the planet in many ways.

Somewhere below any predator weighing more than 30 lbs.
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Postby Jingoist Hippostan » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:57 am

Islamic Hazarastan wrote:It must be very difficult! Do Jains worry about stepping on ants, even?



Yes. In India you'll run across Jainists with brooms sweeping in front of them to get bugs out of their way.
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Postby Alancar » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:58 am

Jinstalia wrote:I hate it how people think killing an animal is part of the food chain, but everyone has there own opinions don't they, and Jainism teaches that too.
There are opinions and there are facts. The idea that killing animals is part of the food chain is an objective fact. On the other hand... the idea that, that fact makes it morally correct to kill an animal even though there is no actual need to do it is an opinion.

Perhaps that is what you meant?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:18 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So?

So it's our job to feed our own sacred lives in the most effective ways possible.
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Postby Jinstalia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:20 pm

Many of you mistake what Jainism is really about. It is mainly about enlightenment, and there is no distrust needed for Jains. Jainism is one religion that respects all, and in many Jain village in India, you will come across temples which have Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Sikh and so many other religions sections, there could be a christian area of praying and a muslim area of praying, so it does respect every religion. In my experience there is even a section for atheists to go and sit and think about things. It is a very respectful thing, and Jainism I think is less of a religion, but more of a path (a way to lead your life). And thats what I respect about this religion.
As for the food chain, humans dont need to consume animals to live, they can consume plants (one sense beings), though this is killing a life, it is one sense animal, which means the least amount of pain is inflicted, but us humans kill animals in a barbaric manor, which is discusting. Also by not eating animals, a vegetarian diet is very healthy, and it would also half global warming figures. Honestly, the way of life in Jainism, I find it amazing, but its personal opinion what really matters.

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Postby Brogavia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:40 pm

Jinstalia wrote:As for the food chain, humans dont need to consume animals to live, they can consume plants (one sense beings), though this is killing a life, it is one sense animal, which means the least amount of pain is inflicted, but us humans kill animals in a barbaric manor, which is discusting. Also by not eating animals, a vegetarian diet is very healthy, and it would also half global warming figures. Honestly, the way of life in Jainism, I find it amazing, but its personal opinion what really matters.


You obviously have never left the city.

Have you ever seen a coyete kill an animal? I have. It was at my friends house, and a few of them took down one his sheep.

First, they rip out the tendons in the back legs so it can't run. Next, they went for the front legs so i couldn't kick them. Now that its down on its side, they go for the stomach. They eat the entrails while its still alive.

A slow, painful death.

Compared to in a slaughter house where they use a swift jolt of electricity to the back of the head to knock them out, and then slit the throat.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:42 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So?

So it's our job to feed our own sacred lives in the most effective ways possible.

No it isn't.

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Postby Brogavia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:43 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So?

So it's our job to feed our own sacred lives in the most effective ways possible.

No it isn't.


Yes it is. We are animals. We are no different than any other creature on this planet in that sense.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:46 pm

Brogavia wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:So?

So it's our job to feed our own sacred lives in the most effective ways possible.

No it isn't.


Yes it is. We are animals. We are no different than any other creature on this planet in that sense.


Just because we're animals doesn't mean it's our job to feed ourselves in the most effective ways possible.

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