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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:06 pm

In a joint statememt released by representatives of the American-backed government in Afghanistan and the Taliban, it was agree that civilian casualties are unaccepted, that women will be given a place in society according to Islamic understanding, and that schools, dams, hospitals, markets and mosques are absolutely not to be targetted. The goal of the talks is to ultimately establish U.S. withdrawal and includes a timetable. The Taliban in return will refuse harbor to al-Qaeda and other groups which seek to attack America.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/07/ ... 50435.html

I think we can all celebrate this. I am very, very happy. :)
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:08 pm

And we should believe the promises of these vermin why?
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:09 pm

Scomagia wrote:And we should believe the promises of these vermin why?

America is tired of the war, it's not likely they're lying imo
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:12 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Scomagia wrote:And we should believe the promises of these vermin why?

America is tired of the war, it's not likely they're lying imo

It's highly likely that the Taliban is lying, given that they are absolute vermin.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:13 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:America is tired of the war, it's not likely they're lying imo

It's highly likely that the Taliban is lying, given that they are absolute vermin.

America has a long history of lying, the Taliban has none, so why do you think.this?
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:14 pm

The only good Taliban is a thoroughly reformed and incredibly apologetic Taliban.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:14 pm

This reminds me of what happened with the FARC in Colombia. (Essentially a far-left terrorist group that liked to raid villages and have people hostage). The dumbass Colombian government decided to talk with these parasites, and now, the head of this terrorist group now has a legitimate standing as an official political party. A fucking terrorist group that claimed the lives of 200.000 people now has a legitimate political standing thanks to the lack of actions of the government.

Either way, I just hope this isn't the case with the Taliban now that it's going to try and talk with US reps and the US-backed government in Afghanistan, but "talks" with terrorists don't give me much hope either.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:17 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:, but "talks" with terrorists don't give me much hope either.


That is probably how many Taliban feel about this.
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Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Inkopolitia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:18 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:, but "talks" with terrorists don't give me much hope either.


That is probably how many Taliban feel about this.

I don't believe you get what i'm saying. The Taliban is a terrorist group that essentially holds 17th century views about women and other matters in 2019. 2019. The fact that the world is letting the Taliban live even with their extremist views is amazing.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:19 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Inkopolitia wrote:, but "talks" with terrorists don't give me much hope either.


That is probably how many Taliban feel about this.


One side lets women read books, the other side doesn't. I'm pretty sure which side are the baddies in this conflict.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:20 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It's highly likely that the Taliban is lying, given that they are absolute vermin.

America has a long history of lying, the Taliban has none, so why do you think.this?

I don't take the word of thugs who beat and rape women and girls for trying to get education. I don't believe the word of delusional cunts who have murdered civilians because of a stupid book written by a warlord centuries ago. Fuck the Taliban and fuck your attempted whataboutism, too.
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Postby Jeoloba » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:21 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:
That is probably how many Taliban feel about this.

I don't believe you get what i'm saying. The Taliban is a terrorist group that essentially holds 17th century views about women and other matters in 2019. 2019. The fact that the world is letting the Taliban live even with their extremist views is amazing.

People are letting the Taliban live because people are tired of the wars NeoCons started in the middle east. We don't want to send are troops to die anymore for a region we don't live in

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:21 pm

There can be no useful talk with an idealogue, and the Taliban are idealogues, their cause is all that matters, they will lie if they believe it will help their cause.
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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:22 pm

Inkopolitia wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:
That is probably how many Taliban feel about this.

I don't believe you get what i'm saying. The Taliban is a terrorist group that essentially holds 17th century views about women and other matters in 2019. 2019. The fact that the world is letting the Taliban live even with their extremist views is amazing.

Oh, he gets what you're saying. He's just trying to "whatabout" his way around the fact that the Taliban is group of murderers, rapists, and general wastes of space.
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:22 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:
That is probably how many Taliban feel about this.


One side lets women read books, the other side doesn't. I'm pretty sure which side are the baddies in this conflict.

Shifting the goalposts
Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Senkaku » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:22 pm

Pretty meaningless. The statement literally says "war continues." You know what happens in war? Civilians get killed, especially when one side's primary means of striking back at the other is asymmetrical methods like terrorist bombings. Call me when they're dead or surrendered.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:23 pm

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:23 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
One side lets women read books, the other side doesn't. I'm pretty sure which side are the baddies in this conflict.

Shifting the goalposts


What goal posts have I shifted?

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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:23 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:There can be no useful talk with an idealogue, and the Taliban are idealogues, their cause is all that matters, they will lie if they believe it will help their cause.

America has a track record of doing that repeatedly, there is nothing to suggest the Taliban would lie.
Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:24 pm

Senkaku wrote:Pretty meaningless. The statement literally says "war continues." You know what happens in war? Civilians get killed, especially when one side's primary means of striking back at the other is asymmetrical methods like terrorist bombings. Call me when they're dead or surrendered.

"We totally swear we won't beat little girls anymore! Pinky swear!"
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Postby Al Mumtahanah » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:24 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Al Mumtahanah wrote:Shifting the goalposts


What goal posts have I shifted?

Went from terrorism to women's rights.
Ifreann wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:How about if I don't wanna learn about Islam I shouldn't have to?

Makes about as much sense as letting kids decide that if they don't wanna eat then they shouldn't have to.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:25 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
What goal posts have I shifted?

Went from terrorism to women's rights.


No I didn't.

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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:25 pm

Al Mumtahanah wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:There can be no useful talk with an idealogue, and the Taliban are idealogues, their cause is all that matters, they will lie if they believe it will help their cause.

America has a track record of doing that repeatedly, there is nothing to suggest the Taliban would lie.

They're murderers and rapists who terrorize women and young girls. I hope they get chased right through the gates of hell.
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Postby Estanglia » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:25 pm

I'm hopeful, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if the Taliban don't keep their word If something comes of it.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:26 pm

I misread the headline as Talks With Taliban Hospital. Like... what?

Okay, that aside, I am not really sure if I can fully trust them just yet. I mean, in this day of heated political arguments and moments, it's like ISIS/ISIL dropping their flags and "we want to talk" and the next thing you know, they have plans for something dubious.

It's good to forgive and forget, but at the same time, don't trust your enemy too much.
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