What if WWII never happened?

[Pacomia]

Title is self-explanatory.

Basically, imagine Hitler died in WWI. What would happen? Would WWII happen anyway? If not, what would happen instead. How would the world look today if there was no WWII?

[Azlaake]

The only way WW1 would never have happened is if USA won idepnendence

I will explain, but for now I gtg

[The Blaatschapen]

Title is self-explanatory.

Basically, imagine Hitler died in WWI. What would happen? Would WWII happen anyway? If not, what would happen instead. How would the world look today if there was no WWII?

You start.

Also, this is assuming that Japan as well was not going to try and create its Pacific empire.

[Pacomia]

Title is self-explanatory.

Basically, imagine Hitler died in WWI. What would happen? Would WWII happen anyway? If not, what would happen instead. How would the world look today if there was no WWII?

You start.

Also, this is assuming that Japan as well was not going to try and create its Pacific empire.

Well, I think it’s entirely possible that a world war still could have happened even if Hitler was dead, especially if the Treaty of Versailles stayed the same. Some other fascist empire could have been made, and Japan also seemed quite eager to take some extra land. I could see a world war starting in Asia. I doubt a Nazi party would start in Germany, though, it seems like it would be unrealistic for any other guy other than Hitler to have the ideology and the mindset to get Germany into a Nazi dictatorship. I also doubt Stalin would have tried to start a war against any big nation, but I might be wrong on that one.

It seems unlikely that in a timeline with a Japanese empire that they would give up their ambition of creating a Pacific Empire, but I suppose it could be prevented if the US was more active in the Pacific. That seems unlikely with their isolationism, though. Maybe the USSR or China could block Japan from getting too far into mainland Asia (provided China could work out their civil war, that is), but I can’t really see any plausible scenario where Japan wouldn’t at least try to expand into the Pacific.

[The Huskar Social Union]

WW2 still would have happened, just would have started differently. Probably between the Soviets and the western democracies of europe, or Mussolini starts something. Or maybe someone else takes over in germany and causes shit.

Japan is still going to invade China in 1937, hitler not being in charge of Germany is not gona prevent that from happening, Japan will then most likely follow that up with war against America and the allies because they pretty much had to giving the situation they were in.

[Pacomia]

WW2 still would have happened, just would have started differently. Probably between the Soviets and the western democracies of europe, or Mussolini starts something. Or maybe someone else takes over in germany and causes shit.

Japan is still going to invade China in 1937, hitler not being in charge of Germany is not gona prevent that from happening, Japan will then most likely follow that up with war against America and the allies because they pretty much had to giving the situation they were in.

I doubt any wars would start in Europe, but Japan might do something.

[Domina Nostra Nova Terra]

A similar grand conflict would have occurred regardless either with the USSR or Japan or possibly both in two separate conflicts.

With no Nazi Germany all that's left is the Soviet Union, Japan and Italy.

The USSR being enemy number 1 for the West for a while pre war.

[Highever]

It would have still happened, at least in the sense that there would have been another global war to take its place.

[Jolthig]

Title is self-explanatory.

Basically, imagine Hitler died in WWI. What would happen? Would WWII happen anyway? If not, what would happen instead. How would the world look today if there was no WWII?

Even if hitler wasnt around there was a large sentiment of nationalism, and not to mention, Mussolini would've still done his aggressive militaristic policy of Fascist Italy. The League of Nations would've still been weak. Then, theres Japan and her militaristic policies. So yeah, there would've still been a World War. And perhaps, germany would've had another aggressive leader because her people were outraged by Versailles and far right nationalistic sentiment was high. Perhaps not on the level of hitler since he had excellent rhetoric of capturing people's emotions but Germany would want Versailles gone.

[Highever]

WW2 still would have happened, just would have started differently. Probably between the Soviets and the western democracies of europe, or Mussolini starts something. Or maybe someone else takes over in germany and causes shit.

Japan is still going to invade China in 1937, hitler not being in charge of Germany is not gona prevent that from happening, Japan will then most likely follow that up with war against America and the allies because they pretty much had to giving the situation they were in.

I doubt any wars would start in Europe, but Japan might do something.

Soviet Union + Poland + Baltic states + Romania =There absolutely would have been wars started in Europe.

[Domina Nostra Nova Terra]

I doubt any wars would start in Europe, but Japan might do something.

Soviet Union + Poland + Baltic states + Romania =There absolutely would have been wars started in Europe.

Wouldn't the USSR have been a little more weary in this TL because of no Nazi Germany showing how tolerant the West was to Hitler's expansionism?

[Bear Stearns]

The world would be a better place. Hitler wouldn't have tarnished a lot of good ideas by mere association, millions of people wouldn't have died, and US global hegemony wouldn't exist.

[Bear Stearns]

Soviet Union + Poland + Baltic states + Romania =There absolutely would have been wars started in Europe.

Wouldn't the USSR have been a little more weary in this TL because of no Nazi Germany showing how tolerant the West was to Hitler's expansionism?

With no Nazi Germany the West would've invaded the Soviet Union if they tried anything.

[Russoslava]

If World War II never happens then you don't have the Expansion of the Iron Curtain, Communism would either stay localized, spread slower or maybe dies out completely with no enemy. Hell, I would think Fascism would become more popular because there is no Hitler to cause the Holocaust, speaking of which may be no reformation of Israel since the first generation of Israelis were mostly holocaust survivors or maybe it happens later because Anti-Semitism was still strong in Europe.

[Domina Nostra Nova Terra]

Wouldn't the USSR have been a little more weary in this TL because of no Nazi Germany showing how tolerant the West was to Hitler's expansionism?

With no Nazi Germany the West would've invaded the Soviet Union if they tried anything.

Been a while since I've studied anything WW2 but weren't the Nazis and Soviets' both dependent on each other for trading for a while?

I recall hearing the USSR receiving a lot of goods from Germany for oil.

[Aeritai]

Another war would've started anyway just like the others are saying here Italy would still try to invade Africa and Greece. Japan would still start a war in the Pacific just like World War 1, World War 2 was inevitable.

[Highever]

Soviet Union + Poland + Baltic states + Romania =There absolutely would have been wars started in Europe.

Wouldn't the USSR have been a little more weary in this TL because of no Nazi Germany showing how tolerant the West was to Hitler's expansionism?

I mean they probably would have figured it out themselves when they annexed the Baltic states.

[Domina Nostra Nova Terra]

Wouldn't the USSR have been a little more weary in this TL because of no Nazi Germany showing how tolerant the West was to Hitler's expansionism?

I mean they probably would have figured it out themselves when they annexed the Baltic states.

That's a very good point.

[Highever]

Wouldn't the USSR have been a little more weary in this TL because of no Nazi Germany showing how tolerant the West was to Hitler's expansionism?

With no Nazi Germany the West would've invaded the Soviet Union if they tried anything.

Doubtful. It's still the same concept of avoiding a war in Europe between major powers so I doubt their sentiment would have changed so drastically simply because there is no nazi Germany.

[Domina Nostra Nova Terra]

Another war would've started anyway just like the others are saying here Italy would still try to invade Africa and Greece. Japan would still start a war in the Pacific just like World War 1, World War 2 was inevitable.

I am not so sure about the Italy thing even in OTL they were pretty nervous getting into the war and it was Hitler's victories that inspired them to give it a go.

[Lanorth]

Wouldn't the USSR have been a little more weary in this TL because of no Nazi Germany showing how tolerant the West was to Hitler's expansionism?

With no Nazi Germany the West would've invaded the Soviet Union if they tried anything.

If WW2 did not happen, Winston Churchill may not have become Prime Minister and The British Armed Forces would not have started planning Operation: Unthinkable at the end of World War Two, an operation created by Churchill planning the invasion of The Soviet Union. Don't forget, Joseph Stalin invaded The Balkans as his forces closed in on Germany towards the end of World War Two. Correct me if I am wrong here, but this is just what I am thinking.

[Domina Nostra Nova Terra]

With no Nazi Germany the West would've invaded the Soviet Union if they tried anything.

If WW2 did not happen, Winston Churchill may not have become Prime Minister and The British Armed Forces would not have started planning Operation: Unthinkable at the end of World War Two. Don't forget, Joseph Stalin invaded The Balkans as his forces closed in on Germany towards the end of World War Two. Correct me if I am wrong here, but this is just what I am thinking.

They certainly invaded part of it and what they didn't invade directly, they sponsored revolutions etc in.

[Bear Stearns]

Another war would've started anyway just like the others are saying here Italy would still try to invade Africa and Greece. Japan would still start a war in the Pacific just like World War 1, World War 2 was inevitable.

Those would just be seen as a repetition of the old colonial wars, not a world war for Democracy(tm)

[Highever]

Another war would've started anyway just like the others are saying here Italy would still try to invade Africa and Greece. Japan would still start a war in the Pacific just like World War 1, World War 2 was inevitable.

I am not so sure about the Italy thing even in OTL they were pretty nervous getting into the war and it was Hitler's victories that inspired them to give it a go.

They were behind the concept of a New Rome before Nazi Germany, and given that no one did anything after Ethiopia, they probably would still go after Albania at the very least.

[Lanorth]

If WW2 did not happen, Winston Churchill may not have become Prime Minister and The British Armed Forces would not have started planning Operation: Unthinkable at the end of World War Two. Don't forget, Joseph Stalin invaded The Balkans as his forces closed in on Germany towards the end of World War Two. Correct me if I am wrong here, but this is just what I am thinking.

They certainly invaded part of it and what they didn't invade directly, they sponsored revolutions etc in.

Yep. Even then Operation: Unthinkable would have to start in West Germany. In order for West Germany to be a thing, World War Two has to have happened. Or in Austria, split amongst the west and the Soviet Union. Again, a result of World War Two.