Should Slavery/Indentured Servitude be brought back?

[Springfeal]

This RP's getting too uncomfortable yo

Slavery is uncomfortable. Get to work, slave.

Did he just admit that he is RPing and therefore not serious about his bizarre arguments?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Mostly true, in some cases they're Halaal.

Then why did Muhammad order all dogs in Makkah killed?

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[Nakena]

You're gonna have to show some examples because I have no idea what you're talking about. Preferably through telegram tho so we don't threadjack.

Its all across the place and most people would, I assume, have made their own experiences I guess.

Actually I said that before. Hold on.

Fair enough

What do you mean?

I've know and more importantly understand a couple of things about Islam too. I know how it rolls. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I am not a true believer in liberalism or whatsover.

And the term and concept of a specific "Islamic Slavery" I have not encountered anywhere before NSG. Slavery in islamic or muslimic countries both contemporary and historical sure? But a specific concept thereof? No.

Regardless, I have said everything I have to say. I leave it to others to continue here.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Slavery is uncomfortable. Get to work, slave.

Did he just admit that he is RPing and therefore not serious about his bizarre arguments?

Reread our posts between me and him.

[Vetalia]

Slavery is uncomfortable. Get to work, slave.

Did he just admit that he is RPing and therefore not serious about his bizarre arguments?

I don't know but slavery is one of those sore spots for me and to see it these days is too much. I believe in freedom for all men.

[Springfeal]

Did he just admit that he is RPing and therefore not serious about his bizarre arguments?

I don't know but slavery is one of those sore spots for me and to see it these days is too much. I believe in freedom for all men.

Same here! Sadly, freedom and equality are concepts that are considered haraam in Islam.

[Plzen]

All civilized nations know deep within that all men are created equal.....till you add money, politics, and glory. After that humanity is pretty crappy

All men are created equal, amen to that. The only part you missed is that all men are created equal...and FREE.

I know this one by heart.

Article 1. All men are created free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

I’m quoting from memory, so there might be a couple errors, but it’s still such a beautiful statement. I can see why it’s still one of the most translated sentences in human literature.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

And the term and concept of a specific "Islamic Slavery" I have not encountered anywhere before NSG. Slavery in islamic or muslimic countries both contemporary and historical sure? But a specific concept thereof? No.

Unequivocally no. Slavery is morally and ethically wrong. I suggest you a history book and that will tell you a multitude of reasons why this is a ridiculous and insane proposal. You’ve heard of the Civil War correct? It was fought over slavery

Think about who you're talking to, San Lumen.

I've just googled it and looked up the wikipedia article on Slavery in Islam. While it appears extensively covered theres nowhere a term of specific "Islamic Slavery".

I never encountered that term before you mentioned it.

I was more talking about the concept, not the actual wording.

As for the concept, well, now you know

[Vetalia]

And the term and concept of a specific "Islamic Slavery" I have not encountered anywhere before NSG. Slavery in islamic or muslimic countries both contemporary and historical sure? But a specific concept thereof? No.

Think about who you're talking to, San Lumen.

I was more talking about the concept, not the actual wording.

As for the concept, well, now you know

Back to the plantation, slave.

[Greater Carloso]

As a religion, Islam is fundamentally centred around the fulfilment of carnal desires; sex, conquest etc. To that end, it is no suprise that slavery is accepted as a fact in Islam. Unlike Christianity, and to the best of my knowledge, Islam does not really believe in the concept of people being created "free and equal".

EDIT: Though, as far as I am aware, slavery was very rare in the medieval Muslim world.

[New haven america]

I know that this proposal seems monstrous and a huge step backwards in terms of the progression of history, but just hear me out?

No. /Thread

[Kubra]

I for one welcome a speedy return for the institution of slavery.
Specifically, I believe Saiwania should be a slave and to be at my beck and call.

[New haven america]

I for one welcome a speedy return for the institution of slavery.
Specifically, I believe Saiwania should be a slave and to be at my beck and call.

Hey hey hey, I claimed him first a number of years ago.

[New haven america]

Well yes, it may've been bad for many that were used as labor under it, but would you say that it was a necessary evil at any point in history? The sugar plantations in Haiti for example (prior to its revolution) was said to be so lucrative and profitable that the French were quite saddened to lose it.

That is no excuse and it is sickening they did it. Still, the Muslim Empires of West Africa had slavery(albeit much different and less evil), and introduced the concept, as well it was an extension of Christian europe's feudalism institution, ironic as that is.

Slavery as a concept is still awful and pathetic, White people especially show they especially are not to be trusted with slaves.

If it was profitable, people must've kept it alive for a time for this reason.

Again, not a excuse.

That is all.

[Pacomia]

I'll send the dogs after you and a few good ol' boys with them to make sure you come back to the plantation. That's you're home, slave, and that's where you belong. Bless your lucky stars you're not too expensive to lynch.

This RP's getting too uncomfortable yo

What did you expect in a thread about BRINGING BACK SLAVERY?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

As a religion, Islam is fundamentally centred around the fulfilment of carnal desires; sex, conquest etc. To that end, it is no suprise that slavery is accepted as a fact in Islam. Unlike Christianity, and to the best of my knowledge, Islam does not really believe in the concept of people being created "free and equal".

EDIT: Though, as far as I am aware, slavery was very rare in the medieval Muslim world.

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[Kubra]

I for one welcome a speedy return for the institution of slavery.
Specifically, I believe Saiwania should be a slave and to be at my beck and call.

Hey hey hey, I claimed him first a number of years ago.

ok ok how about I buy that right
I got uh, a fiver and a free mcdonalds coffee. This is a fair trade, yeah?

[United Muscovite Nations]

This RP's getting too uncomfortable yo

What did you expect in a thread about BRINGING BACK SLAVERY?

Don't respond, dude literally supports terror organizations, he admitted to it in the Islamic Discussion Thread.

[Farnhamia]

As for the concept, well, now you know

Back to the plantation, slave.

Knock it the fuck off. We are not amused.

[Saint Arsenio]

Back to the plantation, slave.

Knock it the fuck off. We are not amused.

... Okay then.

[Nogodia]

Slavery bad. Labor as a way of paying back a legally noted debt is acceptable with the appropriate care to civil and human rights given.

I will not debate further on this basic aspect of human decency.

[Pacomia]

Looks like this thread’s about to be locked down.

[Saint Arsenio]

Slavery bad. Labor as a way of paying back a legally noted debt is acceptable with the appropriate care to civil and human rights given.

I will not debate further on this basic aspect of human decency.

Well said.

[Pacomia]

What did you expect in a thread about BRINGING BACK SLAVERY?

Don't respond, dude literally supports terror organizations, he admitted to it in the Islamic Discussion Thread.

Shit, man. Jesus Christ.

[Springfeal]

What did you expect in a thread about BRINGING BACK SLAVERY?

Don't respond, dude literally supports terror organizations, he admitted to it in the Islamic Discussion Thread.

Indeed he says he supports Tahrir Al-Sham and Ahrar Al-Sham which are both Al-Qaeda affiliated groups in Syria.