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Economically or Societally speaking, unfree labor is...

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EastKekistan
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:38 am

Kowani wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Not everyone is okay with the state of immigration nor should they. I'm going to do what I can in helping Donald Trump's efforts to turn away most if not all of the central americans that keep arriving at the US border. I flat out don't want them and I won't care that they want into the country.

As a WN, don’t you also have to advocate the expulsion of those who are already there, as well as black people? ‘Cause you’re not gonna win that battle.


Why not? Is there any alternative to WN as powerful as Islam in North America?
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Postby Heloin » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:38 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Heloin wrote:When two racists collide.

I know he will accept this lol. Our interests don't conflict with that of WNs. What I like the most about WNs is that they don't try to prevent us from grabbing resources anywhere outside the White homelands. So there will be no conflict. :)

Yeah... or you could not be a massive racist and imperialist.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:39 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Kowani wrote:As a WN, don’t you also have to advocate the expulsion of those who are already there, as well as black people? ‘Cause you’re not gonna win that battle.


Why not? Is there any alternative to WN as powerful as Islam in North America?

Religions are inanimate objects, they can't be powerful.
Muslims are not powerful in America at all.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:39 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Kowani wrote:As a WN, don’t you also have to advocate the expulsion of those who are already there, as well as black people? ‘Cause you’re not gonna win that battle.


Why not? Is there any alternative to WN as powerful as Islam in North America?

This may come as a shock to you, but most people aren’t White Nationalist.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:40 am

Heloin wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:I know he will accept this lol. Our interests don't conflict with that of WNs. What I like the most about WNs is that they don't try to prevent us from grabbing resources anywhere outside the White homelands. So there will be no conflict. :)

Yeah... or you could not be a massive racist and imperialist.

Of course people can. However ultimately NE Asian people have nukes and have stranglehold over certain industries. The world will cease to function if we die..so I'm not afraid of anyone backstabbing us.
1. 85% of the moon
2. 45% of Mars
3. The rest of the Solar System (Solar System is Division 0)
4. 27 other divisions (Division 1-27)
An alliance of racially Northeast Asian countries friendly with White Nationalists, Zionists and nationalists in the Middle East and India.
We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
We were a Tier 7, Level 0, Type 8 civilization according to this index. Our old map News By 3173 we rule over the universe.

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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:41 am

Kowani wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:
Why not? Is there any alternative to WN as powerful as Islam in North America?

This may come as a shock to you, but most people aren’t White Nationalist.

They need more enlightenment..and hence sociopathy. Yes they will get there.
1. 85% of the moon
2. 45% of Mars
3. The rest of the Solar System (Solar System is Division 0)
4. 27 other divisions (Division 1-27)
An alliance of racially Northeast Asian countries friendly with White Nationalists, Zionists and nationalists in the Middle East and India.
We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
We were a Tier 7, Level 0, Type 8 civilization according to this index. Our old map News By 3173 we rule over the universe.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:41 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Heloin wrote:Yeah... or you could not be a massive racist and imperialist.

Of course people can. However ultimately NE Asian people have nukes and have stranglehold over certain industries. The world will cease to function if we die..so I'm not afraid of anyone backstabbing us.

If NE Asians all died the world would revive itself with the rest of people still alive.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:41 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Heloin wrote:Yeah... or you could not be a massive racist and imperialist.

Of course people can. However ultimately NE Asian people have nukes and have stranglehold over certain industries. The world will cease to function if we die..so I'm not afraid of anyone backstabbing us.

Is your entire political ideology a racial power fantasy?
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Postby Hanafuridake » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:41 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Kowani wrote:He lives in the West, so…

In NE Asia people can be proud ethnonats who want to exterminate foreign peoples and that won't harm their social standing a bit lol.


Which parts of East Asia have you been living in?
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Postby Waji » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:41 am

Saiwania wrote:I know that this proposal seems monstrous and a huge step backwards in terms of the progression of history, but just hear me out?


It's a shame they don't sell Negroes at the supermarket anymore man, now they work there and get paid. Civil rights are so overrated. Slavery is freedom.

Saiwania wrote:If I'm reproducing, I want a specific result. Race mixing results in a child that won't be of my racial group, or won't look similar to me and it defeats the entire purpose. In the long run, it is screwing up my family tree as well as the woman's.


Yeah, one of my ancestors had sex with an Irish woman and now our family tree is corrupted by Irish blood instead of being of the pure master English race. Feels bad man. I had to turn down a girl once who had really nice natural teeth, told her that my genes were soiled enough already and I wouldn't want to have a child that wouldn't have my smile.

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Postby Heloin » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:42 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Heloin wrote:Yeah... or you could not be a massive racist and imperialist.

Of course people can. However ultimately NE Asian people have nukes and have stranglehold over certain industries. The world will cease to function if we die..so I'm not afraid of anyone backstabbing us.

You're justifying you're racism, by the fact that China and now North Korea has the ability if it want's to kill untold millions?

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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:42 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Of course people can. However ultimately NE Asian people have nukes and have stranglehold over certain industries. The world will cease to function if we die..so I'm not afraid of anyone backstabbing us.

If NE Asians all died the world would revive itself with the rest of people still alive.

To prevent people from genociding us we will of course make sure that the rest of the world will cease to function if we die.
1. 85% of the moon
2. 45% of Mars
3. The rest of the Solar System (Solar System is Division 0)
4. 27 other divisions (Division 1-27)
An alliance of racially Northeast Asian countries friendly with White Nationalists, Zionists and nationalists in the Middle East and India.
We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
We were a Tier 7, Level 0, Type 8 civilization according to this index. Our old map News By 3173 we rule over the universe.

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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:42 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:In NE Asia people can be proud ethnonats who want to exterminate foreign peoples and that won't harm their social standing a bit lol.


Which parts of East Asia have you been living in?

China and Singapore
1. 85% of the moon
2. 45% of Mars
3. The rest of the Solar System (Solar System is Division 0)
4. 27 other divisions (Division 1-27)
An alliance of racially Northeast Asian countries friendly with White Nationalists, Zionists and nationalists in the Middle East and India.
We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
We were a Tier 7, Level 0, Type 8 civilization according to this index. Our old map News By 3173 we rule over the universe.

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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:43 am

Heloin wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:Of course people can. However ultimately NE Asian people have nukes and have stranglehold over certain industries. The world will cease to function if we die..so I'm not afraid of anyone backstabbing us.

You're justifying you're racism, by the fact that China and now North Korea has the ability if it want's to kill untold millions?

We have people's genetic info too. So we aren't afraid of ethnobioweapons.
1. 85% of the moon
2. 45% of Mars
3. The rest of the Solar System (Solar System is Division 0)
4. 27 other divisions (Division 1-27)
An alliance of racially Northeast Asian countries friendly with White Nationalists, Zionists and nationalists in the Middle East and India.
We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
We were a Tier 7, Level 0, Type 8 civilization according to this index. Our old map News By 3173 we rule over the universe.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:43 am

EastKekistan wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:If NE Asians all died the world would revive itself with the rest of people still alive.

To prevent people from genociding us we will of course make sure that the rest of the world will cease to function if we die.

>"We"
Lol you say that like people all have these hairbrained thoughts you do
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:44 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Heloin wrote:You're justifying you're racism, by the fact that China and now North Korea has the ability if it want's to kill untold millions?

We have people's genetic info too. So we aren't afraid of ethnobioweapons.

Lol what?
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:44 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Kowani wrote:This may come as a shock to you, but most people aren’t White Nationalist.

They need more enlightenment..and hence sociopathy. Yes they will get there.

Ethnonationalism is a fundamentally illogical ideology.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Heloin » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:45 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Heloin wrote:You're justifying you're racism, by the fact that China and now North Korea has the ability if it want's to kill untold millions?

We have people's genetic info too. So we aren't afraid of ethnobioweapons.

What?
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:45 am

Kowani wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:They need more enlightenment..and hence sociopathy. Yes they will get there.

Ethnonationalism is a fundamentally illogical ideology.

Of course. However in a world full of this shit you have to have defensive ethnonationalism in order not to be exterminated.
1. 85% of the moon
2. 45% of Mars
3. The rest of the Solar System (Solar System is Division 0)
4. 27 other divisions (Division 1-27)
An alliance of racially Northeast Asian countries friendly with White Nationalists, Zionists and nationalists in the Middle East and India.
We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
We were a Tier 7, Level 0, Type 8 civilization according to this index. Our old map News By 3173 we rule over the universe.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:45 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Kowani wrote:This may come as a shock to you, but most people aren’t White Nationalist.

They need more enlightenment..and hence sociopathy. Yes they will get there.

I get it now, between your posts on the other thread and these, about how people who don't share your beliefs about the world just aren't informed enough. Your entire philosophy is just the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Postby EastKekistan » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:46 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
EastKekistan wrote:To prevent people from genociding us we will of course make sure that the rest of the world will cease to function if we die.

>"We"
Lol you say that like people all have these hairbrained thoughts you do

We don't care if everyone else wants to kill us. We will just make sure that it is so costly that nobody dares to try.
1. 85% of the moon
2. 45% of Mars
3. The rest of the Solar System (Solar System is Division 0)
4. 27 other divisions (Division 1-27)
An alliance of racially Northeast Asian countries friendly with White Nationalists, Zionists and nationalists in the Middle East and India.
We are an alliance of rich, safe and clean nations. Rapid scientific development, space exploration, modern cities, skyscrapers and high-speed trains..you will enjoy ultra-modern life if you come and visit us.
We were a Tier 7, Level 0, Type 8 civilization according to this index. Our old map News By 3173 we rule over the universe.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:46 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Kowani wrote:Ethnonationalism is a fundamentally illogical ideology.

Of course. However in a world full of this sh*t you have to have defensive ethnonationalism in order not to be exterminated.

No one's being exterminated nor is the world full of ethnonationalism.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:46 am

EastKekistan wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>"We"
Lol you say that like people all have these hairbrained thoughts you do

We don't care if everyone else wants to kill us. We will just make sure that it is so costly that nobody dares to try.

Nobody wants to kill you.
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Postby Novus America » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:47 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
Which parts of East Asia have you been living in?

China and Singapore


The PRC is crazy racist but Singapore is quite diverse (although the wealth tend to only marry with their in group there).
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Postby Kowani » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:47 am

EastKekistan wrote:
Kowani wrote:Ethnonationalism is a fundamentally illogical ideology.

Of course. However in a world full of this shit you have to have defensive ethnonationalism in order not to be exterminated.

…Yeah, that’s not how the world works.
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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