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Economically or Societally speaking, unfree labor is...

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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:53 am

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Well theres also the celtic cross or the black sun as alternatives.


Everyone else should start using the black sun to normalize it cuz it's pretty aesthetic, ngl


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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:53 am

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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Is this supposed to mean something?


For Lehman Brothers, it's just interesting given how much of an institution it was.

For Lazard, it's funny because their work environment is often facetiously called a sweatshop or a slave pit by analysts who work there.

So... what’s that mean in the context of this thread? Is it supposed to be a weird justification for slavery or something? It’s confusing.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:54 am

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The Celtic cross honestly looks shit if its not the version with the longer vertical arm.


I just dislike the part where plenty of symbols are now "Le Nazi Symbols of White Supremacy" because some inbred racist shithead painted it on a banner and put a bedsheets on his head.


I'm Presbyterian so the Celtic cross is a religious symbol to me, like the main one. Cooler than the regular cross as a symbol in every way. Who knew how much a circle could do?
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Postby Nakena » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:54 am

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For Lehman Brothers, it's just interesting given how much of an institution it was.

For Lazard, it's funny because their work environment is often facetiously called a sweatshop or a slave pit by analysts who work there.

So... what’s that mean in the context of this thread? Is it supposed to be a weird justification for slavery or something? It’s confusing.


Why would you assume it would be a weird justification for slavery? Its just that they started business in that time and historical context. And also as he pointed out, that one company seems to be quite a slave pit.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:56 am

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For Lehman Brothers, it's just interesting given how much of an institution it was.

For Lazard, it's funny because their work environment is often facetiously called a sweatshop or a slave pit by analysts who work there.

So... what’s that mean in the context of this thread? Is it supposed to be a weird justification for slavery or something? It’s confusing.


Do you know what "fun facts" are? Or trivia?
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Postby Skyhooked » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:58 am

And of course this dude thinks, that he will be the rich slave owner. Homeless will tend to his plantations, unemployed young dudes will clean his mansion, and beautiful slave ladies of all races will... make his every night awesome. All he gotta do is to "host" them.

Put into some shacks and feed with cheap ass food. And if someone gets sick? Well, throw him out and buy another one. Morals and ethics? Things, that define us as human beings? All the efforts, humanity made to progress? Nah, being slaver is far better.

I guess, should this actually happen and he ends up in slave caste, he'd change his position and become even more abolitionist than good ol' Lincoln.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:58 am

Lehman brothers is gone, but Lazard seems to still be hanging in there. The share price for it isn't consistently going up or down, but resembles a rollercoaster where it has a relatively even amount of good and bad years. Almost $3 billion in revenue isn't half bad.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:58 am

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I just dislike the part where plenty of symbols are now "Le Nazi Symbols of White Supremacy" because some inbred racist shithead painted it on a banner and put a bedsheets on his head.


I'm Presbyterian so the Celtic cross is a religious symbol to me, like the main one. Cooler than the regular cross as a symbol in every way. Who knew how much a circle could do?


The Celts, evidently.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am

Saiwania wrote:Lehman brothers is gone, but Lazard seems to still be hanging in there. The share price for it isn't consistently going up or down, but resembles a rollercoaster where it has a relatively even amount of good and bad years. Almost $3 billion in revenue isn't half bad.


One of my friends is on their healthcare mergers & acquisitions team.
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Postby Ecradia » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:02 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Fun facts:

Lehman Brothers got its start as cotton futures trading house in Montgomery, Alabama in the 1850s, and Lazard Feres & Co. began as a merchant bank in New Orleans that lent to plantations.

Henry Ford and General Motors, and Prescott Bush's and George Herbert Walker's Union Banking Corporation supported Hitler. What's your point? All of these are bad.
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Skyhooked wrote:beautiful slave ladies of all races

OP is a white supremacist he only dates white girls
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:03 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Skyhooked wrote:beautiful slave ladies of all races

OP is a white supremacist he only dates white girls


I only date a white girl.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:05 am

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Bear Stearns wrote:Fun facts:

Lehman Brothers got its start as cotton futures trading house in Montgomery, Alabama in the 1850s, and Lazard Feres & Co. began as a merchant bank in New Orleans that lent to plantations.

Henry Ford's General Motors, and Prescott Bush's and George Herbert Walker's Union Banking Corporation supported Hitler. What's your point? All of these are bad.


Henry Ford never worked at General Motors.

George H.W. Bush never worked at UBC, but his father did. They didn't support Hitler, though. The bank was owned by a Dutch bank that was taken over by German industrialists when the Nazis invaded the Netherlands. When this happened, all US assets were seized by the government.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:09 am

Fuck that! We should be doing away with prison labor not bring slavery back.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:09 am

Thermodolia wrote:Fuck that! We should be doing away with prison labor not bring slavery back.

The fact that people unironically support Sai on this is mind-boggling.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:09 am

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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:So... what’s that mean in the context of this thread? Is it supposed to be a weird justification for slavery or something? It’s confusing.


Do you know what "fun facts" are? Or trivia?

I do, however, I don’t go into the “Japan Resumes Whaling” thread and post “some species of whales can remain submerged for up to an hour and a half” as if it makes sense in the context of the thread.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:09 am

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I'm Presbyterian so the Celtic cross is a religious symbol to me, like the main one. Cooler than the regular cross as a symbol in every way. Who knew how much a circle could do?


The Celts, evidently.


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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:09 am

Saiwania wrote:I've walked around my family's backyard and know that they can't afford to pay a professional landscaper an actual salary, but they can afford to host one or more individuals; and yard help is clearly needed.


Ask for volunteers. Duh.

Slavery is not economically efficient because of the man-hours and capital that are wasted buying, selling, and overseeing the slaves, as well as catching runaways, when those slave-traders and overseers could instead be actually producing something instead of spending their time on what is basically administrative waste. People sink money into buying slaves rather than investing it in other industries. The quality of work you get from slave labor also tends to be utter shit because the slaves don't really want to be there and generally take less pride in their work than free labor. It's a system that does not encourage slaves to better themselves and seek out different kinds of work that might be a better use of their abilities.

Slaves are also a security liability. During WWII, slaves working in German armaments factories would purposely screw up their work because they were pissed off at how they were treated. A few of the bombs dropped on London did not go off because someone at the factory had purposely left out key components. During the American Civil War, when Union troops were trying to occupy parts of the South where they had no knowledge of the terrain, they could get directions from the local black people, thus partially negating the Confederates' home field advantage.
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Postby Uan aa Boa » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:09 am

Saiwania wrote: I don't know if the text even means anything...

Is Google translate beyond you? It says "in God my hope" in Swedish.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:OP is a white supremacist he only dates white girls


I only date a white girl.

You’re not a white supremacist tho.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am

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Do you know what "fun facts" are? Or trivia?

I do, however, I don’t go into the “Japan Resumes Whaling” thread and post “some species of whales can remain submerged for up to an hour and a half” as if it makes sense in the context of the thread.


But that actually is a fun fact. I don't see what's wrong with it.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:OP is a white supremacist he only dates white girls


I've lived for too long at this point, and from general life experience; I've concluded that non-White women can be equally as beautiful. I'm not immune to being tempted, but I still have the discipline to make the right choices from my perspective. The women aren't inferior if they're not White in and of itself and it isn't their fault if they were born into a different racial group.

It is simply more a matter of me choosing to safeguard our lineages and keep our genetics in a less corrupted state, which wouldn't be the case if I just race mixed like too many people do nowadays.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:10 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Don’t most economists agree slavery actually hurts the economy?

Well that and slavery and it’s cousin feudalism generally lead to violent revolutions and civil wars.

So if Sai wants a communist revolution he should definitely go ahead
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:11 am

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I only date a white girl.

You’re not a white supremacist tho.


Nope, just married.
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Postby Kannap » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:11 am

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Ecradia wrote:Henry Ford's General Motors, and Prescott Bush's and George Herbert Walker's Union Banking Corporation supported Hitler. What's your point? All of these are bad.


Henry Ford never worked at General Motors.


It's easy to confuse Henry Ford with Henry General Motors. They were both brilliant gentlemen.
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