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Postby Scomagia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:46 pm

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Scomagia wrote:No, otherwise there'd be no end to suicide watch for a lot of prisoners. The shrink probably met with him a few times, maybe prescribed medication, and was satisfied that Epstein was no longer actively suicidal. That would not be unusual.


That would the usual in another situation, here however we have an very unusual and endangered patient whose survivial is in grave danger. Normal or usual metrics cannot be applied here.

That's not the way this works. Even witnesses and informants don't get active, 24 hour, 1 on 1 protection. Besides, it is likely a deprivation of someone's rights to keep them on suicide watch indefinitely and against the evaluation of a mental health professional. Generally speaking prison officials try to keep the abuses to a minimum for pretrial, high profile inmates. Bad press and all.
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Postby The Rich Port » Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:58 pm

I assume the guy had evidence linking him to child porn?

Can't be that hard to trace people to those pictures, especially if they have live victims on their hands.

Not to mention, even the guy's analyzer was shocked by this. This guy was such a huge scumbag him having the shame to kill himself was unprecedented, it's why he was probably not put under observation.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:10 pm

so who had him whacked lol

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Cannot think of a name wrote:This is going to sum up a lot of what's going to pass for evidence on the internet for a while...

But Clinton/Trump killed him! I dislike one of the two, so it must be true!


tbh idt it was either of them, I'm guessing it's someone much less in the public eye, maybe even someone we've all never heard of at all, who realized whatever he spilled would probably bring them down
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:15 pm

Senkaku wrote:so who had him whacked lol

I stand by my theory that he was killed opportunistically by a fellow inmate for being a child-molesting creep.
Diopolis wrote:But Clinton/Trump killed him! I dislike one of the two, so it must be true!


tbh idt it was either of them, I'm guessing it's someone much less in the public eye, maybe even someone we've all never heard of at all, who realized whatever he spilled would probably bring them down

I don't know he got killed by someone associated with him, although the Trump admin opening proceedings against Hillary for having Epstein killed isn't something I'm going to rule out.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:35 pm

So i'm on board the "He was murdered" train too. Reminder this same international cabal of criminals had the journalist who leaked their tax evasion shenanigans in the panama papers murdered with a carbomb.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:48 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Hatterleigh wrote:Pretty obvi he was killed. Died on suicide watch (Or some have said they took him off suicide watch just before he died, not exactly a much better scenario), the cameras suppoedly malfunctioned, a ton of really strange stuff. There was a guy who said a bunch of stuff about how Epstein was dead and they framed it as a suicide like an hour before the news was released to the public too

This is going to sum up a lot of what's going to pass for evidence on the internet for a while...

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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:53 pm

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Last I checked there were records of Bill flying the lolita express like 20 times and Trump "may have once".


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:53 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:This is going to sum up a lot of what's going to pass for evidence on the internet for a while...

Random Internet Dude never seemed very convincing before, but now he's saying things I agree with!


He's talking about a 4chan post that was made before the news broke. Necessarily that means it was a guard or journalist or something or someone along the chain of information before it got reported by the mainstream. I'd say it's not credible as evidence, despite thinking this was arranged.
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Postby Loftegen 2 » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:25 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Senkaku wrote:so who had him whacked lol

I stand by my theory that he was killed opportunistically by a fellow inmate for being a child-molesting creep.

tbh idt it was either of them, I'm guessing it's someone much less in the public eye, maybe even someone we've all never heard of at all, who realized whatever he spilled would probably bring them down

I don't know he got killed by someone associated with him, although the Trump admin opening proceedings against Hillary for having Epstein killed isn't something I'm going to rule out.

I stand by my theory that you're an idiot. You okay with that?

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:52 pm

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Diopolis wrote:I stand by my theory that he was killed opportunistically by a fellow inmate for being a child-molesting creep.

I don't know he got killed by someone associated with him, although the Trump admin opening proceedings against Hillary for having Epstein killed isn't something I'm going to rule out.

I stand by my theory that you're an idiot. You okay with that?

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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:13 pm

Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide, or whatever, occurred just past the Friday night news dumping hours and into the early Saturday morning time frame of an August weekend. They say timing is everything, but I think in this case it's negligible. It looks horrible and will stay pretty horrible looking for a very very long time.

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Postby Cedoria » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:13 pm

Not necessarily buying the whole suicide story, but I agree it's more likely he was whacked by a fellow inmate for sex crimes if anyone did. He would hardly be the first one.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:18 pm

Cedoria wrote:Not necessarily buying the whole suicide story, but I agree it's more likely he was whacked by a fellow inmate for sex crimes if anyone did. He would hardly be the first one.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was not in general population or sharing a cell with anyone.
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Postby Cedoria » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:20 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Cedoria wrote:Not necessarily buying the whole suicide story, but I agree it's more likely he was whacked by a fellow inmate for sex crimes if anyone did. He would hardly be the first one.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was not in general population or sharing a cell with anyone.

Not sure about the specifics, but I imagine there are ways to access someone if they're not in their cell 24/7.

That said, It's entirely possible that it was indeed a suicide. I neither know nor frankly care, I'm not going to shed any tears over it.
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Sat Aug 10, 2019 6:24 pm

Cedoria wrote:Not necessarily buying the whole suicide story, but I agree it's more likely he was whacked by a fellow inmate for sex crimes if anyone did. He would hardly be the first one.


It's the reasons for which he was whacked wherein lies the great chasm. The fact he was killed "by someone" is that he was killed. Suicide or not, he died in custody. Why is a matter of speculation of each and every individual until a proper investigation by the FBI can be conducted and disseminated. In the meantime it's a pundit's free-for-all and everyone opines. One thing is for sure. Epstein's death does not kill the story.
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:12 pm

I was thinking of doing a parody article of how Epstein was dead and it was all Russia's fault, (sorry, not going to feel sad over a pedophile's death,) but Joe Scarborough beat me to it, with one exception: he thought it was real. What a fucking moron, does this idiot want America to be the laughing stock of the World?

“A guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful men’s lives ends up dead in his jail cell. How predictably…Russian,” MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” host Joe Scarborough said on Twitter.


At this point I'm wondering, does MSNBC pay "journalists" bonuses for Russian Conspiracy theories, or is Joe Scarborough really that much of a dolt? Conservative Activist Laura Loomer is spot on with her slamming of Scarborough - MSNBC you became a joke that's slammed by Loomer. This is what one conspiracy theory too many does to you. The new face of MSNBC:

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As for the actual "suicide" we'll see, but Democrats are going to blame Trump supports, Republicans will blame Clinton supporters and the investigation will be interesting to watch. And yes, I know that some of you will claim that Scarborough didn't really mean Russia did it, when he said Russia, but rather he was alluding to Magnitsky, but c'mon, Scarborough being that intelligent? If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for ya, and it's half off! Oh, and if he was alluding to Magnitsky, he could've tweeted that, as there's sadly no limit on the amount of tweets that dumbfuck can produce.
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For a supposedly irrelevant cable channel, people sure like to screed about MSNBC a lot as if taking it down is vital to the world.
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Gormwood wrote:For a supposedly irrelevant cable channel, people sure like to screed about MSNBC a lot as if taking it down is vital to the world.

Screeching about Fox is a much better alternative, eh?
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Gormwood wrote:For a supposedly irrelevant cable channel, people sure like to screed about MSNBC a lot as if taking it down is vital to the world.

Screeching about Fox is a much better alternative, eh?

Who screeched extensively about FOX here?
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Nova Cyberia wrote:Screeching about Fox is a much better alternative, eh?

Who screeched extensively about FOX here?

In general, you do. I still remember quite recently when you were going on one of your usual angry rants about Fox and you asked me to prove that only Fox tells the truth. Ah, good times.

I guess taking it down is really vital, eh?
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:28 pm

Nova Cyberia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Who screeched extensively about FOX here?

In general, you do. I still remember quite recently when you were going on one of your usual angry rants about Fox and you asked me to prove that only Fox tells the truth. Ah, good times.

I guess taking it down is really vital, eh?

Here, as in this thread. Trying to score a dunk badly eh?
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Postby Sidesh0w B0b » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:35 pm

Never mind that nonsense about cable tv bashing.

Has there ever been a Billionaire that died in jail in this country? Any western country? The world?

This deal with Epstein is really that fucked up.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:37 pm

Sidesh0w B0b wrote:Never mind that nonsense about cable tv bashing.

Has there ever been a Billionaire that died in jail in this country? Any western country? The world?

This deal with Epstein is really that fucked up.

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Sidesh0w B0b wrote:Never mind that nonsense about cable tv bashing.

Has there ever been a Billionaire that died in jail in this country? Any western country? The world?

This deal with Epstein is really that fucked up.

How often do millionaires or billionaires get held in regular common people jail?
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Postby Nova Cyberia » Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:46 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nova Cyberia wrote:In general, you do. I still remember quite recently when you were going on one of your usual angry rants about Fox and you asked me to prove that only Fox tells the truth. Ah, good times.

I guess taking it down is really vital, eh?

Here, as in this thread. Trying to score a dunk badly eh?

No. Just pointing out how much of a hypocrite you are. But it's okay. I know you get really uptight when people point how inconsistent you can be. :lol:
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