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Canadian Politics

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:00 am
by Dresderstan
It's 2021 in the midst of the Covid-19 Pandemic, and Justin Trudeau has recently called a snap general election to push himself and the Liberals from a minority to a majority government, as polls suggest he is on the cusp of a majority. Also happening is the provincial election in Nova Scotia where the provincial Liberals are also hoping the pandemic gives them a third term in power as well. The question is will it be enough for the Liberals to win a majority, will the campaign go smoothly for Trudeau, or will his election call bite him in the back as there may be a believed to be low voter turnout for the election? Will the opposition parties gain ground, will O'Toole push the Tories to the right, how will the NDP fair, what about the Bloc how well will they hold, and will the Greens hold on after a disaster of a summer?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:08 am
by Nyborgen
The New Democrats:

Trudeau has been tarnished by the corruption allegations against him. The conservatives are... endeavouring to take Canada back to the beginning of the century. If the ND had had a vibrant leader like Singh the last time, Trudeau would never have been prime-minister.

Canada has a choice between the past (Conservatives), the present (Trudeau) and the future. I think the future will win.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:10 am
by Painisia
Nyborgen wrote:The New Democrats:

Trudeau has been tarnished by the corruption allegations against him. The conservatives are... endeavouring to take Canada back to the beginning of the century. If the ND had had a vibrant leader like Singh the last time, Trudeau would never have been prime-minister.

Canada has a choice between the past (Conservatives), the present (Trudeau) and the future. I think the future will win.


And what is the future? The Greens? Quebec withdrawing from Canada?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:11 am
by Trumptonium1
Vive Quebec libre

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:11 am
by Thermodolia
Anyone but Trudeau!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:12 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Liberals beacuse they defend NN, are trying to stop Canadian Forces Suicides, invest in Ontario, invest in coast guard and, Justin showed up at France's ww1 grave site.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:12 am
by The South Falls
Trumptonium1 wrote:Vive Quebec libre

Quebec shall not leave. Never. Canada is one united nation. Quebec shall never secede.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:13 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Trumptonium1 wrote:Vive Quebec libre

lol Quebec independence is a meme

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:14 am
by Thermodolia
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Liberals beacuse they defend NN, are trying to stop Canadian Forces Suicides, invest in Ontario, invest in coast guard and, Justin showed up at France's ww1 grave site.

So because he’s not Trump? That’s the dumbest reason to vote for Trudeau. Who is selling out your nation to the Chinese

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:16 am
by Deltanium
All hail our god-emperor Maxime Bernier

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:17 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Thermodolia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Liberals beacuse they defend NN, are trying to stop Canadian Forces Suicides, invest in Ontario, invest in coast guard and, Justin showed up at France's ww1 grave site.

So because he’s not Trump? That’s the dumbest reason to vote for Trudeau. Who is selling out your nation to the Chinese


Did not say that, just said that he respects veterans.

No one, Chinese- Cad relations have gone down sense that whole execution sentence.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:17 am
by Trumptonium1
The South Falls wrote:
Trumptonium1 wrote:Vive Quebec libre

Quebec shall not leave. Never. Canada is one united nation. Quebec shall never secede.


It will leave one day.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:18 am
by Western Vale Confederacy
Trudeau should be booted straight out of the damn door.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:20 am
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy
Trumptonium1 wrote:Vive Quebec libre

Trying to destroy Canada, I see.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:21 am
by Thermodolia
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:So because he’s not Trump? That’s the dumbest reason to vote for Trudeau. Who is selling out your nation to the Chinese


Did not say that, just said that he respects veterans.

You pretty much listed everything trump didn’t do.

No one, Chinese- Cad relations have gone down sense that whole execution sentence.

That wasn’t a question. The “who” refers back to Trudeau. US Intelligence refuses to share information with your government because you sent it to the Chinese. Then there’s the fact that your government willingly extradited a champion of HK democracy and anti-CPC sentiment to China.

Face it Trudeau is in the pocket of the CPC, it’s a wonder he doesn’t have a “made in China” sticker on him

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:22 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Trumptonium1 wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Quebec shall not leave. Never. Canada is one united nation. Quebec shall never secede.


It will leave one day.

When the sun goes red giant maybe.

4.999 billion years to go.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:31 am
by Dresderstan
The way I see this so far is being more of a fight between the Tories and Liberals with the NDP, Greens, Bloc and PPC being pushed aside. The NDP is going to do worse, especially in Quebec against the Liberals and in the central part of the country in the Prairies and Alberta against the Tories, with their only strong point being in the west coast. The Greens will make a gain or two on Victoria Island, but I don't see them getting much, unless they manage to win big in PEI. The Bloc... I honestly see them losing almost all of their seats tbh, no joke, I could see Quebec nationalism die if they have no representation. And the PPC will only draw ire away from more Tory right wing voters and I could see Maxime lose his seat regardless.

Here's how I feel it could go down. Trudeau wins re-election is the most likely outcome unless he royally fucks it up in the next 9 months and the Tories look to be the better option. The question however if he wins, does he still hold a majority, or goes into a minority, and I think he'll offset potential losses in the Atlantic provinces, Ontario and the Prairies and Alberta with gains in Quebec and possibly BC to retain a majority. Again that's just how I see it is right now.

Lib: 171-180
Con: 112-126
NDP: 22-28
Green: 1-3
Bloc 0-3
PPC: 0-1

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:32 am
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
Thermodolia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Did not say that, just said that he respects veterans.

You pretty much listed everything trump didn’t do.

No one, Chinese- Cad relations have gone down sense that whole execution sentence.

That wasn’t a question. The “who” refers back to Trudeau. US Intelligence refuses to share information with your government because you sent it to the Chinese. Then there’s the fact that your government willingly extradited a champion of HK democracy and anti-CPC sentiment to China.

Face it Trudeau is in the pocket of the CPC, it’s a wonder he doesn’t have a “made in China” sticker on him


My Liberal representative assured me that Canadian Net Neutrality will be protected. They made an investment into the coast guard giveing the Maritime provinces a better safety net, and I live in ontario so I'd think investment in it is a good idea.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:34 am
by Thermodolia
Dresderstan wrote:The way I see this so far is being more of a fight between the Tories and Liberals with the NDP, Greens, Bloc and PPC being pushed aside. The NDP is going to do worse, especially in Quebec against the Liberals and in the central part of the country in the Prairies and Alberta against the Tories, with their only strong point being in the west coast. The Greens will make a gain or two on Victoria Island, but I don't see them getting much, unless they manage to win big in PEI. The Bloc... I honestly see them losing almost all of their seats tbh, no joke, I could see Quebec nationalism die if they have no representation. And the PPC will only draw ire away from more Tory right wing voters and I could see Maxime lose his seat regardless.

Here's how I feel it could go down. Trudeau wins re-election is the most likely outcome unless he royally fucks it up in the next 9 months and the Tories look to be the better option. The question however if he wins, does he still hold a majority, or goes into a minority, and I think he'll offset potential losses in the Atlantic provinces, Ontario and the Prairies and Alberta with gains in Quebec and possibly BC to retain a majority. Again that's just how I see it is right now.

Lib: 171-180
Con: 112-126
NDP: 22-28
Green: 1-3
Bloc 0-3
PPC: 0-1

I sincerely hope you’re wrong. I’d rather not have a Chinese puppet on my Northern border

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:35 am
by Agarntrop
Liberals because the cons are assholes and the NDP are socialist and also kinda a joke nowadays.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:35 am
by Valrifell
I'm rather not fond of Trudeau and quite a bit of support for him seems to come from people fawning over his age and rhetoric on liberal ideas rather than any kind of concrete action.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:36 am
by Thermodolia
Valrifell wrote:I'm rather not fond of Trudeau and quite a bit of support for him seems to come from people fawning over his age and rhetoric on liberal ideas rather than any kind of concrete action.

It would be awesome if NDP won or Liberal kicked Trudeau to the curb.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:37 am
by Dresderstan
Thermodolia wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:The way I see this so far is being more of a fight between the Tories and Liberals with the NDP, Greens, Bloc and PPC being pushed aside. The NDP is going to do worse, especially in Quebec against the Liberals and in the central part of the country in the Prairies and Alberta against the Tories, with their only strong point being in the west coast. The Greens will make a gain or two on Victoria Island, but I don't see them getting much, unless they manage to win big in PEI. The Bloc... I honestly see them losing almost all of their seats tbh, no joke, I could see Quebec nationalism die if they have no representation. And the PPC will only draw ire away from more Tory right wing voters and I could see Maxime lose his seat regardless.

Here's how I feel it could go down. Trudeau wins re-election is the most likely outcome unless he royally fucks it up in the next 9 months and the Tories look to be the better option. The question however if he wins, does he still hold a majority, or goes into a minority, and I think he'll offset potential losses in the Atlantic provinces, Ontario and the Prairies and Alberta with gains in Quebec and possibly BC to retain a majority. Again that's just how I see it is right now.

Lib: 171-180
Con: 112-126
NDP: 22-28
Green: 1-3
Bloc 0-3
PPC: 0-1

I sincerely hope you’re wrong. I’d rather not have a Chinese puppet on my Northern border

Assuming he's not one already. ;)

I personally don't want Trudeau either, but I don't think there's enough as of now to push Trudeau out from government. At best, he leads a minority government for 2 years, (I think when a party fails to get a majority you have 2 years even with a coalition government with smaller parties, someone correct me if I'm wrong) and at worst he has a majority government and remains in power for 4 more years. The saving grace I can think of is his parliamentary majority does decrease.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:39 am
by Valrifell
Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:I'm rather not fond of Trudeau and quite a bit of support for him seems to come from people fawning over his age and rhetoric on liberal ideas rather than any kind of concrete action.

It would be awesome if NDP won or Liberal kicked Trudeau to the curb.


Either would be ideal, yes.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:42 am
by Western Vale Confederacy
Thermodolia wrote:
Valrifell wrote:I'm rather not fond of Trudeau and quite a bit of support for him seems to come from people fawning over his age and rhetoric on liberal ideas rather than any kind of concrete action.

It would be awesome if NDP won or Liberal kicked Trudeau to the curb.


Don't fangirl too fast over the NDP..

The Cons will win.