Canadian Politics

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Fair enough I guess. Do that while also buying more planes from the US.

American here, you Canadians building up your airforce definitely will help the US as Canada could strengthen our ties by purchasing US made aircraft. I worry that four out of the six would further strip your military of its resources. Just like how Trudeau thinks that basic help/aid to vets are too expensive, when he happily paid Omar Khadr C$10.5 million despite his quite notable terrorist activities. I just hope that your nation can pick a candidate that will not destroy Canada even further, rather rebuild and make Canada better for Canadians.

Nothing really seems to be destroyed.

Yes the current Pm hasn't done his best but nothing has been destroyed. Day to day life is still fine.

[Kubra]

Fair enough I guess. Do that while also buying more planes from the US.

American here, you Canadians building up your airforce definitely will help the US as Canada could strengthen our ties by purchasing US made aircraft. I worry that four out of the six would further strip your military of its resources. Just like how Trudeau thinks that basic help/aid to vets are too expensive, when he happily paid Omar Khadr C$10.5 million despite his quite notable terrorist activities. I just hope that your nation can pick a candidate that will not destroy Canada even further, rather rebuild and make Canada better for Canadians.

As has been said time and time again, there's no way the government would have won the Khadr case in court. 10 mil is getting off easy.

[Nea Byzantia]

Have you followed the elections in Québec recently? The Bloc is still alive and kicking. I'm not sure if they do that in the English media but in the French ones, Trudeau and Sheer are both attacking the Bloc, mainly. Blanchet is the threat in Québec and he might grab a few very important seats (10 or 11), doubling his actual number. Enough to prevent the conservatives or the liberals from gaining majority.

Also, needless to remind you that in 2018 70% voted for nationalist (CAQ) and/or independentist parties (PQ, QS).

Would Blanchet ever make a coalition with PPC? or is PPC too conservative for him?

Blanchet and the Bloc Quebecois only give a shit about Quebec (I would know, since I'm a life-long Quebecois); so assuming Bernier could make a sweet enough deal, sure. But the same goes for any of the candidates. But coalitions and alliances are only made if nobody attains a Majority Government.

[Nea Byzantia]

American here, you Canadians building up your airforce definitely will help the US as Canada could strengthen our ties by purchasing US made aircraft. I worry that four out of the six would further strip your military of its resources. Just like how Trudeau thinks that basic help/aid to vets are too expensive, when he happily paid Omar Khadr C$10.5 million despite his quite notable terrorist activities. I just hope that your nation can pick a candidate that will not destroy Canada even further, rather rebuild and make Canada better for Canadians.

Nothing really seems to be destroyed.

Yes the current Pm hasn't done his best but nothing has been destroyed. Day to day life is still fine.

For now. Give it another 4 years of Trudeau and we'll see.

[Thermodolia]

Somehow, I think our American Benefactors wouldn't approve...Remember what happened when we tried to build the Arrow...

That's only because they know that we need them more than they need us. If we align ourselves with the PRC, then I imagine we would be able to not be so concerned about what America thinks of us.

Ya want to get invaded? Because that’s how you get invaded and basically kicked out of any economic deals with the US

[Nea Byzantia]

That's only because they know that we need them more than they need us. If we align ourselves with the PRC, then I imagine we would be able to not be so concerned about what America thinks of us.

Ya want to get invaded? Because that’s how you get invaded and basically kicked out of any economic deals with the US

Already made that point to him.

[Thermodolia]

No, but you would just be swapping out one Great Power Benefactor for another. Don't get me wrong, I'd be more than happy to see our subservient relationship to Uncle Sam brought to an end, as well; but its important to remember the underlying issue here: Canada's subservience to Great Power Benefactors. Following World War II, we switched out the British Lion for the American Bald Eagle, and now you advocate switching out the American Bald Eagle for the Chinese Dragon.

Aside from the fact that the underlying issue remains; this idea is horrible also because China is a Foreign Power with zero cultural connection to Canada, historically speaking. At least both Britain and the United States both share common cultural and political heritage with Canada - which is to say, the Anglo-Saxon political and cultural heritage - and as such, working together is much easier and makes much more sense. Bringing in a completely Foreign Power like China - which has zero connection to this heritage; and on top of it, has a very different and alien political and cultural heritage - is a recipe for disaster.

To which I say that aligning ourselves with great power with zero cultural connection to Canada would actually be a good thing, because it would allow us to develop our own distinct culture. We won't have to be so obsessed with differentiating ourselves from Americans, because us Anglophones would be different from America.

Aside from that, China is geographically distant from Canada as well; and there's pretty much nothing useful their Hegemony over us, could provide other than "protection" from the United States. But even then, their geographic isolation means that America would be able to thrash us long before China could do anything to stop them.

Geographical distance would in a way help protect Canadian culture: it is much more difficult to be influenced culturally by a far-away power than a power that is right next door to you.

While I do acknowledge your point that we'd certainly be more vulnerable in the short term from American interference as they try and bring a key ally back into the fold, given the current volatile political climate in the States, and giving China's increasing strength, we might be able to get away with aligning ourselves with China.

Last but not least, there is no way for such an alliance to even be implemented. There is mass opposition to it on all levels. The Americans would invade, or otherwise arrange the downfall of any Canadian Government that would make such overtures towards China; and this is to say nothing of what the Canadian Military would do, under such circumstances. The Royal Canadian Armed Forces swears allegiance to the Monarch (currently, Queen Elizabeth II); and to the Governor General who acts on the Monarch's behalf, not to the Prime Minister - who could easily be dismissed either by Royal Decree, a Parliamentary Vote of No Confidence; or else a Coup, Revolution of Invasion, assuming the failure of all Judicial and Constitutional Mechanisms. In short, there's no way this would ever ever happen; and it would bring nothing but needless hardship, suffering, and instability to Canada.

Of course, I'm not going to deny that given current demographic, cultural, and political trends, British Columbia might find itself to be a Chinese Colony in a few decades. But I don't see Chinese Hegemony in Canada extending much beyond that.

I admit that aligning ourselves completely to the PRC would certainly not be a good thing in the short-term, and that such a move would be unpopular. But until the European Union becomes more centralized, who else can we align to?

India? Russia? They don't seem to be powerful enough to protect our sovereignty. China, on the other hand, would likely protect our sovereignty.

I think the more realistic approach may be to increase ties with the PRC over many generations, to deepen our ties with them, so if the US shits the bed, we don't get driven off the cliff that they're approaching.

Unfortunately for y’all you’ve now made the argument that Canada should join the Chinese sphere of influence. Many in the US already believe that Trudeau is a chinese puppet. If any government does anything more overt than what Trudeau is currently doing in regards to China and you will have a coup on your hands.

[Nea Byzantia]

To which I say that aligning ourselves with great power with zero cultural connection to Canada would actually be a good thing, because it would allow us to develop our own distinct culture. We won't have to be so obsessed with differentiating ourselves from Americans, because us Anglophones would be different from America.


Geographical distance would in a way help protect Canadian culture: it is much more difficult to be influenced culturally by a far-away power than a power that is right next door to you.

While I do acknowledge your point that we'd certainly be more vulnerable in the short term from American interference as they try and bring a key ally back into the fold, given the current volatile political climate in the States, and giving China's increasing strength, we might be able to get away with aligning ourselves with China.


I admit that aligning ourselves completely to the PRC would certainly not be a good thing in the short-term, and that such a move would be unpopular. But until the European Union becomes more centralized, who else can we align to?

India? Russia? They don't seem to be powerful enough to protect our sovereignty. China, on the other hand, would likely protect our sovereignty.

I think the more realistic approach may be to increase ties with the PRC over many generations, to deepen our ties with them, so if the US shits the bed, we don't get driven off the cliff that they're approaching.

Unfortunately for y’all you’ve now made the argument that Canada should join the Chinese sphere of influence. Many in the US already believe that Trudeau is a chinese puppet. If any government does anything more overt than what Trudeau is currently doing in regards to China and you will have a coup on your hands.

Good. Trudeau needs to go.

[Nea Byzantia]

To which I say that aligning ourselves with great power with zero cultural connection to Canada would actually be a good thing, because it would allow us to develop our own distinct culture. We won't have to be so obsessed with differentiating ourselves from Americans, because us Anglophones would be different from America.


Geographical distance would in a way help protect Canadian culture: it is much more difficult to be influenced culturally by a far-away power than a power that is right next door to you.

While I do acknowledge your point that we'd certainly be more vulnerable in the short term from American interference as they try and bring a key ally back into the fold, given the current volatile political climate in the States, and giving China's increasing strength, we might be able to get away with aligning ourselves with China.


I admit that aligning ourselves completely to the PRC would certainly not be a good thing in the short-term, and that such a move would be unpopular. But until the European Union becomes more centralized, who else can we align to?

India? Russia? They don't seem to be powerful enough to protect our sovereignty. China, on the other hand, would likely protect our sovereignty.

I think the more realistic approach may be to increase ties with the PRC over many generations, to deepen our ties with them, so if the US shits the bed, we don't get driven off the cliff that they're approaching.

Unfortunately for y’all you’ve now made the argument that Canada should join the Chinese sphere of influence. Many in the US already believe that Trudeau is a chinese puppet. If any government does anything more overt than what Trudeau is currently doing in regards to China and you will have a coup on your hands.

When the Yanks come marching into Ottawa, I guess Trudeau will wish he had encouraged his supporters to arm themselves and train in militia tactics; he'll regret having been so tight on guns.

And after God-Emperor Trump sends Trudeau on a permanent vacation to Guantanamo - so he can visit his relatives in Cuba - then the Canadian Resistance can get going. It'll be just like Red Dawn; only the Americans are playing the role of the Soviets; and the Canadians are playing the role of the Wolverines.

(Note to the Mods: This is just a Joke, not a call to violence. Please don't gulag me)

[West Leas Oros 2]

Unfortunately for y’all you’ve now made the argument that Canada should join the Chinese sphere of influence. Many in the US already believe that Trudeau is a chinese puppet. If any government does anything more overt than what Trudeau is currently doing in regards to China and you will have a coup on your hands.

When the Yanks come marching into Ottawa, I guess Trudeau will wish he had encouraged his supporters to arm themselves and train in militia tactics; he'll regret being so tight on guns.

"When the Yanks come Marching to Ottawa" is my new favorite propaganda song.

[Nea Byzantia]

When the Yanks come marching into Ottawa, I guess Trudeau will wish he had encouraged his supporters to arm themselves and train in militia tactics; he'll regret being so tight on guns.

"When the Yanks come Marching to Ottawa" is my new favorite propaganda song.

I made it better^

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Aligning ourselfs with China is a really dumb idea. America Canada allys forever.

[Nea Byzantia]

Aligning ourselfs with China is a really dumb idea. America Canada allys forever.

I should've mentioned here that Derpy will be Trump's Plenipotentiary in Canada...

[West Leas Oros 2]

"When the Yanks come Marching to Ottawa" is my new favorite propaganda song.

I made it better^

Nice. I'm think about what the lyrics would be. I imagine Canadian militiamen whistling it on their way to the trench.

[Nea Byzantia]

I made it better^

Nice. I'm think about what the lyrics would be. I imagine Canadian militiamen whistling it on their way to the trench.

Except, we don't have militiamen...yet.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Nice. I'm think about what the lyrics would be. I imagine Canadian militiamen whistling it on their way to the trench.

Except, we don't have militiamen...yet.

just give it a little time...

[Loben The 2nd]

Somehow, I think our American Benefactors wouldn't approve...Remember what happened when we tried to build the Arrow...

That's only because they know that we need them more than they need us. If we align ourselves with the PRC, then I imagine we would be able to not be so concerned about what America thinks of us.

Align with the PRC then Canada loses its sovereignty, simple.

[Nea Byzantia]

Except, we don't have militiamen...yet.

just give it a little time...

A little War...

...A few years of Occupation under God-Emperor Trump.

Heck, you'd probably have some Americans joining with the Canucks...

[Nea Byzantia]

That's only because they know that we need them more than they need us. If we align ourselves with the PRC, then I imagine we would be able to not be so concerned about what America thinks of us.

Align with the PRC then Canada loses its sovereignty, simple.

Well, the problem isn't taking Canada; its holding Canada...we're the Russia of North America; we just haven't had the chance to show it yet.

[Loben The 2nd]

Align with the PRC then Canada loses its sovereignty, simple.

Well, the problem isn't taking Canada; its holding Canada...we're the Russia of North America; we just haven't had the chance to show it yet.

Pffft ok.

[Nea Byzantia]

Well, the problem isn't taking Canada; its holding Canada...we're the Russia of North America; we just haven't had the chance to show it yet.

Pffft ok.

We got Polar Bears and Maple Syrup Molotov Cocktails...come at us, eh

[Loben The 2nd]

Pffft ok.

We got Polar Bears and Maple Syrup Molotov Cocktails...come at us, eh

You have worthless tanks and a laughingstock of an Air Force.

God only knows what your infantry is like.

[West Leas Oros 2]

We got Polar Bears and Maple Syrup Molotov Cocktails...come at us, eh

You have worthless tanks and a laughingstock of an Air Force.

God only knows what your infantry is like.

Blame Trudeau.

[Loben The 2nd]

You have worthless tanks and a laughingstock of an Air Force.

God only knows what your infantry is like.

Blame Trudeau.

I do. Canada once had a military that the Germans feared.

What the fuck is the point of 50/50 gender ratio for deployments?

[Nea Byzantia]

Blame Trudeau.

I do. Canada once had a military that the Germans feared.

Canada was a very different Country back then...