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Who do you support in the 2021 snap general election

Liberals
44
21%
Conservatives
43
20%
NDP
79
37%
Bloc
10
5%
Greens
16
8%
PPC
21
10%
 
Total votes : 213

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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Fri May 13, 2022 3:50 pm

Rick Perry wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
not a reliable source. Try an actual source.

So, I assume you are a Canadian for not agreeing that Pastors in Canada are going to jail. Soooo. Long story short I'm right.
living in Canada must suck.

still waiting for a reliable source and not utter trash. That is rated as a questionable source by MediaBiasFactCheck.

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Comfed
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Comfed » Fri May 13, 2022 3:51 pm

Rick Perry wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
not a reliable source. Try an actual source.

So, I assume you are a Canadian for not agreeing that Pastors in Canada are going to jail. Soooo. Long story short I'm right.
living in Canada must suck.

Oh, there were pastors who were arrested. It was for violating COVID rules. I do also recall a spate of churches being burned down - I don't remember exactly why, but it was terrible. All things considered though I count myself lucky to be in this country when I could be in many other places...
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Nevertopia
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Founded: May 27, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nevertopia » Fri May 13, 2022 4:05 pm

So Singh wants to legalize magic mushrooms if he gets elected as PM. While I got no big gripes against trudeau Jr. even with his ass-alt rifle ban, that only affects the military LARPing community in Canada which I dont care for, I think decriminalizing across the board makes the most sense. Theres really no sense in locking addicts up in the prison system when they should really be going through the rehab system. I might actually vote NDP next election. Meaning the only party left that Ive never voted for as the Bloc Quebecky, the people's (dont say this quiet part out loud, "racist") party of canada, and the climate denial boomer party/Conservative party of Canada.
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Nevertopia
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Founded: May 27, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nevertopia » Fri May 13, 2022 4:12 pm

Comfed wrote:
Rick Perry wrote:So, I assume you are a Canadian for not agreeing that Pastors in Canada are going to jail. Soooo. Long story short I'm right.
living in Canada must suck.

Oh, there were pastors who were arrested. It was for violating COVID rules. I do also recall a spate of churches being burned down - I don't remember exactly why, but it was terrible. All things considered though I count myself lucky to be in this country when I could be in many other places...

im glad the religious privileged is being shut down in Canada, religious beliefs shouldnt be an excuse to breaking the law.
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Arisyan
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Founded: Apr 05, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Arisyan » Fri May 13, 2022 4:14 pm

Rick Perry wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
not a reliable source. Try an actual source.

So, I assume you are a Canadian for not agreeing that Pastors in Canada are going to jail. Soooo. Long story short I'm right.
living in Canada must suck.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh wait you're being serious. Look, I have many a problem with the Canadian government, but we are leagues better than the US in many regards.

Nevertopia wrote:So Singh wants to legalize magic mushrooms if he gets elected as PM. While I got no big gripes against trudeau Jr. even with his ass-alt rifle ban, that only affects the military LARPing community in Canada which I dont care for, I think decriminalizing across the board makes the most sense. Theres really no sense in locking addicts up in the prison system when they should really be going through the rehab system. I might actually vote NDP next election. Meaning the only party left that Ive never voted for as the Bloc Quebecky and the climate denial boomer party/Conservative party of Canada.

The NDP has by far the best drug platform, given that both the Liberals and Conservatives have abandoned even the tiniest notion of helping users and are committed to continuing the extremely discriminatory War on Drugs, which only targets marginalized communities.
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Nevertopia
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Founded: May 27, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nevertopia » Fri May 13, 2022 4:16 pm

Arisyan wrote:
Rick Perry wrote:So, I assume you are a Canadian for not agreeing that Pastors in Canada are going to jail. Soooo. Long story short I'm right.
living in Canada must suck.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Oh wait you're being serious. Look, I have many a problem with the Canadian government, but we are leagues better than the US in many regards.

Nevertopia wrote:So Singh wants to legalize magic mushrooms if he gets elected as PM. While I got no big gripes against trudeau Jr. even with his ass-alt rifle ban, that only affects the military LARPing community in Canada which I dont care for, I think decriminalizing across the board makes the most sense. Theres really no sense in locking addicts up in the prison system when they should really be going through the rehab system. I might actually vote NDP next election. Meaning the only party left that Ive never voted for as the Bloc Quebecky and the climate denial boomer party/Conservative party of Canada.

The NDP has by far the best drug platform, given that both the Liberals and Conservatives have abandoned even the tiniest notion of helping users and are committed to continuing the extremely discriminatory War on Drugs, which only targets marginalized communities.


Right? And what has me most excited with Singh's drug platform is theres research coming out that stuff like Shrooms and LSD HELP with drug addiction. So legalizing drugs lets people use drugs that get them off drugs. :shock:
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Shrillland
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Founded: Apr 12, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Shrillland » Fri May 13, 2022 5:57 pm

Comfed wrote:
Rick Perry wrote:So, I assume you are a Canadian for not agreeing that Pastors in Canada are going to jail. Soooo. Long story short I'm right.
living in Canada must suck.

Oh, there were pastors who were arrested. It was for violating COVID rules. I do also recall a spate of churches being burned down - I don't remember exactly why, but it was terrible. All things considered though I count myself lucky to be in this country when I could be in many other places...


I think the church burnings had to do with the mass graves being discovered at the residential schools, a lot of them happened shortly after to denominations that were directly linked to them.
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Arisyan
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Founded: Apr 05, 2020
Democratic Socialists

Postby Arisyan » Fri May 13, 2022 6:06 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Comfed wrote:Oh, there were pastors who were arrested. It was for violating COVID rules. I do also recall a spate of churches being burned down - I don't remember exactly why, but it was terrible. All things considered though I count myself lucky to be in this country when I could be in many other places...


I think the church burnings had to do with the mass graves being discovered at the residential schools, a lot of them happened shortly after to denominations that were directly linked to them.

It was still horrible and there was no justification for the burnings whatsoever, but it's not like we have a habit of burning churches. We, contrary to what Rick Perry is alluding to, do not randomly set fire to churches for fun.
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Shrillland
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Shrillland » Fri May 13, 2022 6:07 pm

Arisyan wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
I think the church burnings had to do with the mass graves being discovered at the residential schools, a lot of them happened shortly after to denominations that were directly linked to them.

It was still horrible and there was no justification for the burnings whatsoever, but it's not like we have a habit of burning churches. We, contrary to what Rick Perry is alluding to, do not randomly set fire to churches for fun.


Oh, I know, I was just answering the question.
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Bear Stearns
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Founded: Dec 02, 2018
Capitalizt

Postby Bear Stearns » Fri May 13, 2022 10:02 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Try a mainstream source instead of garbage like that.

ah yes the objective, not profit-driven, unbiased, and noncorrupt mainstream media


the our democracy
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Nevertopia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nevertopia » Fri May 13, 2022 11:31 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Free Algerstonia wrote:ah yes the objective, not profit-driven, unbiased, and noncorrupt mainstream media


the our democracy


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Postby Shrillland » Mon May 16, 2022 11:32 am

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Luziyca
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Founded: Nov 13, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Wed May 18, 2022 9:09 pm

Premier Kenney barely won the UCP leadership review, but has decided to resign from the leadership of the UCP.

Say what you will about how he ran Alberta, but at least in Alberta there is a thriving two-party system now. Can't say the same about Saskatchewan.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed May 18, 2022 9:44 pm

Luziyca wrote:Premier Kenney barely won the UCP leadership review, but has decided to resign from the leadership of the UCP.

Say what you will about how he ran Alberta, but at least in Alberta there is a thriving two-party system now. Can't say the same about Saskatchewan.


I'll believe that when it appears in federal elections, which it has yet to do.
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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Wed May 18, 2022 9:54 pm

Luziyca wrote:Premier Kenney barely won the UCP leadership review, but has decided to resign from the leadership of the UCP.

Say what you will about how he ran Alberta, but at least in Alberta there is a thriving two-party system now. Can't say the same about Saskatchewan.

I wonder who will replace him.

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Wed May 18, 2022 10:36 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Premier Kenney barely won the UCP leadership review, but has decided to resign from the leadership of the UCP.

Say what you will about how he ran Alberta, but at least in Alberta there is a thriving two-party system now. Can't say the same about Saskatchewan.

I wonder who will replace him.

As someone who doesn't want people to suffer, I want someone better than him to replace him so that he can maybe undo some of the damage that Jason Kenney has done before the next provincial election.

As an NDP partisan who wants to be absolutely sure that the NDP will win the next provincial election in Alberta, I want someone worse than Jason Kenney to replace him so that the NDP has a guaranteed shot at winning.
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Wayneactia » Wed May 18, 2022 11:51 pm

Luziyca wrote:As an NDP partisan who wants to be absolutely sure that the NDP will win the next provincial election in Alberta, I want someone worse than Jason Kenney to replace him so that the NDP has a guaranteed shot at winning.

I believe Brian Jean fits that description….
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Postby Luziyca » Thu May 19, 2022 11:47 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Luziyca wrote:As an NDP partisan who wants to be absolutely sure that the NDP will win the next provincial election in Alberta, I want someone worse than Jason Kenney to replace him so that the NDP has a guaranteed shot at winning.

I believe Brian Jean fits that description….

I will take your word for it: while I've been exposed to Alberta politics through Twitter, I don't understand it as much as I do my own.

Which, speaking of, the outgoing Saskatchewan NDP leader will step down as MLA for Saskatoon Meewasin, and a by-election will be held.
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Postby Comfed » Thu May 19, 2022 3:21 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Wayneactia wrote:I believe Brian Jean fits that description….

I will take your word for it: while I've been exposed to Alberta politics through Twitter, I don't understand it as much as I do my own.

Which, speaking of, the outgoing Saskatchewan NDP leader will step down as MLA for Saskatoon Meewasin, and a by-election will be held.

I think Brian Jean is a former Wildrose (more right-wing conservative party) party member, while Jason Kenney is a former PC (more moderate conservative party) member.
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 20, 2022 4:15 pm

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Postby Comfed » Fri May 20, 2022 4:17 pm


Are they seriously saying "this will be fine just trust us guys we'd never abuse our power because, well, just trust us"?

ok then
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Postby Shrillland » Fri May 20, 2022 4:26 pm

In provincial news, The Ontario NDP is calling for the Liberal candidate in Chatham-Kent-Leamington to be removed from the ballot

The NDP alleges that the Liberals just copypasted signatures from the previous candidate onto the new one's filing.
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Daniel-Franklin
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Founded: Feb 20, 2011
Father Knows Best State

Postby Daniel-Franklin » Fri May 20, 2022 5:03 pm

Shrillland wrote:In provincial news, The Ontario NDP is calling for the Liberal candidate in Chatham-Kent-Leamington to be removed from the ballot

The NDP alleges that the Liberals just copypasted signatures from the previous candidate onto the new one's filing.


Now time for more far left groups to do this to milquetoast centrists in both Canada and the US. Payback for Wisconsin! They can use the same kind of BS technicalities that the Wisconsin Dems did.
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Postby Daniel-Franklin » Fri May 20, 2022 5:06 pm

Comfed wrote:

Are they seriously saying "this will be fine just trust us guys we'd never abuse our power because, well, just trust us"?

ok then


Because they know what rubes some of the masses are. They're hoping that they'll drown out the voices of reasonable alarm as "paranoid."
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Nilokeras » Sat May 21, 2022 1:35 am

Comfed wrote:

Are they seriously saying "this will be fine just trust us guys we'd never abuse our power because, well, just trust us"?

ok then


The thing to remember about the Liberals (and small-l liberals too, for that matter) is that they genuinely do believe that - they think they're the responsible stewards of government power in the room. They are also sloppy, disinterested legislators. This is a government, after all, that even with a progressive supermajority in Parliament took three tries over as many years to pass a conversion therapy bill. Instead of building proper oversight measures - which would be hard - they create these incredibly broad bills under the rosy assumption that they'll be in power to manage the ways these bills get put into operation without the need for complex legislation and regulation.

The problem of course is that they never stay in power indefinitely, and these sloppy laws can and will get used by bad actors for their own ends. shocked_pikachu.gif from the Libs of course when that happens.
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