Luziyca wrote:Jedi Council wrote:In Quebec I agree, but getting into the high 30s or 40s seat count wise would not be impossible without Quebec, especially if Singh is able to make a break through in the large populations of new canadians concentrated in seat rich areas like the Lower Mainland of BC and in the 905.
Part of his pitch in 2017 while running for the leadership was that he could win these areas, and while he has yet to do so, I think he could if the Liberals suffer heavily in public opinion.
But again, that's a big if. Trudeau has proven to be pretty resilient, even after scoring some pretty big own goals in the latter half of his first term, and with a relatively decent response to Covid-19, he seems to be in a good position for the next general.
Certainly: I fear that the way things are going, next election, the NDP will end up like the Socreds: no longer a viable force in federal politics. I'm sure they'll remain in provincial politics for some time (the BC Socreds
did survive until 1996, after all), but given Trudeau has done a better job in managing this compared to Trump, and given I doubt the NDP will make inroads into Quebec so long as the Liberals remain strong, this may be the end of the federal NDP, and we'll become a true two-party system, unless the Greens becomes the half-party that replaces the NDP.
And as an NDPer, I sure hope that my fears don't come true: I doubt a Liberal or a Green would win a seat in Saskatchewan nowadays.
I highly doubt that the NDP will become extinct like he Socreds. To be clear though, the only time they have been viable, in the sense of actually winning, at the Federal level was 2015.
And let's not forget that the NDP has survived worse calamities than 2019; in 1993 they were decimated, only taking 9 seats and ~8% of the popular vote.
What's far more likely to happen is that they will enter the cycle that 2011 disrupted; they will get stronger as the Liberals govern longer, absorbing disaffected Liberal and progressive voters. Eventually, this bleed of support will cause the Conservatives to topple the Liberals and take office. Then the Liberals will once again be seen as the primary party of opposition to the Tories, and the NDP will lose support to them.
It's basically the cycle that the NDP completes once every decade or so.