Canadian Politics

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

In other ""news"" Toronto Sun boot licks for Trump.

In good news, Raptors stand with BLM.

The Toronto Sun's in love with American Conservatism? Who'd have thought? /s

Funny thing is, the Conservatives are the ones who keep going "We ArE NoT AmEriCa" but when they see an opening to start licking boots and go "MEDIA BAD" they sprint for it.

[Jedi Council]

The Toronto Sun's in love with American Conservatism? Who'd have thought? /s

Funny thing is, the Conservatives are the ones who keep going "We ArE NoT AmEriCa" but when they see an opening to start licking boots and go "MEDIA BAD" they sprint for it.

It is strange.

They hate the comparison to American Conservatives, but they import issues and strategies from the South.

[The Marlborough]

Funny thing is, the Conservatives are the ones who keep going "We ArE NoT AmEriCa" but when they see an opening to start licking boots and go "MEDIA BAD" they sprint for it.

It is strange.

They hate the comparison to American Conservatives, but they import issues and strategies from the South.

Everyone in this country does that lmao.

[Jedi Council]

It is strange.

They hate the comparison to American Conservatives, but they import issues and strategies from the South.

Everyone in this country does that lmao.

Maybe, but only the Conservatives freak out whenever anyone compares them to the Americans.

Most Liberals, for example, would be fine with being compared to say, the Obama era Democrats. Especially not after that bombshell Obama endorsement last year.

[Luziyca]

Everyone in this country does that lmao.

Maybe, but only the Conservatives freak out whenever anyone compares them to the Americans.

Most Liberals, for example, would be fine with being compared to say, the Obama era Democrats. Especially not after that bombshell Obama endorsement last year.

Yeah, Liberals and much of the Tories honestly are probably our equivalent to the US Democrats, so it probably ain't too much of a shocker to see them be compared. The People's Party and the right-wing of the Tories though, they're definitely Republicans if they supported the Queen.

[Outer Sparta]

The Toronto Sun's in love with American Conservatism? Who'd have thought? /s

Funny thing is, the Conservatives are the ones who keep going "We ArE NoT AmEriCa" but when they see an opening to start licking boots and go "MEDIA BAD" they sprint for it.

Yet they had a party leader who has American citizenship and does a lot of American-style campaigning.

[Luziyca]

Funny thing is, the Conservatives are the ones who keep going "We ArE NoT AmEriCa" but when they see an opening to start licking boots and go "MEDIA BAD" they sprint for it.

Yet they had a party leader who has American citizenship and does a lot of American-style campaigning.

Pretty sure he's still the leader, if only for a couple more months.

I wish they could have gotten Joe Clark out of retirement and make him the next leader of the Tories.

[Outer Sparta]

Yet they had a party leader who has American citizenship and does a lot of American-style campaigning.

Pretty sure he's still the leader, if only for a couple more months.

I wish they could have gotten Joe Clark out of retirement and make him the next leader of the Tories.

It'll most likely be Erin O'Toole to get the nod at the point.

[Luziyca]

Pretty sure he's still the leader, if only for a couple more months.

I wish they could have gotten Joe Clark out of retirement and make him the next leader of the Tories.

It'll most likely be Erin O'Toole to get the nod at the point.

Probably. Won't matter, though: I'd sooner vote Grit than Tory.

[Shrillland]

Pretty sure he's still the leader, if only for a couple more months.

I wish they could have gotten Joe Clark out of retirement and make him the next leader of the Tories.

It'll most likely be Erin O'Toole to get the nod at the point.

O'Toole? I thought MacKay was still the one to beat.

[Outer Sparta]

It'll most likely be Erin O'Toole to get the nod at the point.

O'Toole? I thought MacKay was still the one to beat.

I haven't been keeping up with Canadian politics much, so I wouldn't really know the front runners and stuff. What would MacKay offer to the table?

[Luziyca]

It'll most likely be Erin O'Toole to get the nod at the point.

O'Toole? I thought MacKay was still the one to beat.

Maybe: I haven't paid much attention to the Conservative leadership race what with all the events going on.

[Shrillland]

O'Toole? I thought MacKay was still the one to beat.

Maybe: I haven't paid much attention to the Conservative leadership race what with all the events going on.

Well, MacKay's still ahead by 8 points in the latest poll from three weeks ago, it'll all depend on the debates next week, the French debate's Wednesday night and the English debate's on Thursday.

[Jedi Council]

It'll most likely be Erin O'Toole to get the nod at the point.

O'Toole? I thought MacKay was still the one to beat.

MacKay is in the lead at the moment I believe, but leadership races are notoriously hard to poll.

O'Toole, who has up to this point largely been a moderate, MacKay like Tory, is now blowing his wad trying to be the "True Blue," ultra-Reform, Harperite populist, hoping to win over the Tory base, a base which is probably more conservative that either O'Toole or MacKay really are.

For MacKay's part, his campaign has been pretty dreadful; he came out of the gate strong, trying to be the moderate, modernizing figure, the guy who could win back Atlantic Canada and suburban Ontario/Vancouver, but has since stumbled. His response to the Coronavirus has been awful, and he has had a lot of embarassing social media snafu's, including one where he attacked O'Toole for being to open to Transgender rights (an ironic attack for the supposed moderate in the race) and another where he openly criticized his own ad for being too partisan.

Lewis and Sloan are pulling up the rear, and both would be terrible candidates for the CPC. They likely wont win, both are arch-social conservatives with very little in the way of name recognition. Their votes could, however, swing the result if MacKay and O'Toole end up being only a few points away from each other on the first ballot.

Macleans summed it up well by by saying that MacKay leads, but its pretty tenuous. Unless he can get damn near 50% on the first ballot, Lewis and Sloan voters will likely move over to the O'Toole camp and might be enough to swing it.

In either case, I have a real hard time seeing any of the current crop of CPC candidates proving to be a serious challenge to Trudeau, unless the LPC scores an own goal like they did last year with SNC-Lavalin.

[Luziyca]

Maybe: I haven't paid much attention to the Conservative leadership race what with all the events going on.

Well, MacKay's still ahead by 8 points in the latest poll from three weeks ago, it'll all depend on the debates next week, the French debate's Wednesday night and the English debate's on Thursday.

Interesting to know MacKay is still in the lead.

Anyway, for my province, Scott Moe is polling at 58% according to Angus Reid, and 55% of decided voters will vote for the Saskatchewan Party, compared to Meili's 31.2%.

[Shrillland]

Well, MacKay's still ahead by 8 points in the latest poll from three weeks ago, it'll all depend on the debates next week, the French debate's Wednesday night and the English debate's on Thursday.

Interesting to know MacKay is still in the lead.

Anyway, for my province, Scott Moe is polling at 58% according to Angus Reid, and 55% of decided voters will vote for the Saskatchewan Party, compared to Meili's 31.2%.

No surprise, status-conscious, unchanging Saskatchewan voting for keeping the status quo.

[Jedi Council]

O'Toole? I thought MacKay was still the one to beat.

I haven't been keeping up with Canadian politics much, so I wouldn't really know the front runners and stuff. What would MacKay offer to the table?

MacKay is the last leader of the Progressive Conservative (PC) Party. The PC's used to be the main right wing Party in Canada until they imploded in 93' whereby the Reform Party replaced them. MacKay ended up merging the PC's with the Canadian Alliance, which was Reform in disguise, and then served as a senior cabinet Minister (Foreign Affairs, Defence, Justice) in the Harper government.

Because of his ties to the old PC's, MacKay is generally viewed as a moderate, as the PC's were largely centre to centre right on most issues. Some have even gone so far as to call him a Red Tory, which I would argue is too far. His pitch for the leadership generally rests on his experience, the fact he is relatively telegenic (He won sexiest MP several years in a row) and his reputation as a centrist. I have not heard much in the way of actual policy, but his political instincts appear to be a little rusty after four years on the sidelines; his campaign has been less than stellar so far.

[Jedi Council]

Interesting to know MacKay is still in the lead.

Anyway, for my province, Scott Moe is polling at 58% according to Angus Reid, and 55% of decided voters will vote for the Saskatchewan Party, compared to Meili's 31.2%.

No surprise, status-conscious, unchanging Saskatchewan voting for keeping the status quo.

They took one look at Alberta and said "I need to get me some of that sweet, sweet one party rule."

[Luziyca]

Interesting to know MacKay is still in the lead.

Anyway, for my province, Scott Moe is polling at 58% according to Angus Reid, and 55% of decided voters will vote for the Saskatchewan Party, compared to Meili's 31.2%.

No surprise, status-conscious, unchanging Saskatchewan voting for keeping the status quo.

Yeah, I'm predicting we'll be getting at least four Moe years of the Sask Party (pun definitely intended). If we end up with an NDP government, I will be delighted.

[Outer Sparta]

I haven't been keeping up with Canadian politics much, so I wouldn't really know the front runners and stuff. What would MacKay offer to the table?

MacKay is the last leader of the Progressive Conservative (PC) Party. The PC's used to be the main right wing Party in Canada until they imploded in 93' whereby the Reform Party replaced them. MacKay ended up merging the PC's with the Canadian Alliance, which was Reform in disguise, and then served as a senior cabinet Minister (Foreign Affairs, Defence, Justice) in the Harper government.

Because of his ties to the old PC's, MacKay is generally viewed as a moderate, as the PC's were largely centre to centre right on most issues. Some have even gone so far as to call him a Red Tory, which I would argue is too far. His pitch for the leadership generally rests on his experience, the fact he is relatively telegenic (He won sexiest MP several years in a row) and his reputation as a centrist. I have not heard much in the way of actual policy, but his political instincts appear to be a little rusty after four years on the sidelines; his campaign has been less than stellar so far.

Huh interesting. I do know that the modern Conservative Party was formed from a merger involving the PCs.

[Luziyca]

MacKay is the last leader of the Progressive Conservative (PC) Party. The PC's used to be the main right wing Party in Canada until they imploded in 93' whereby the Reform Party replaced them. MacKay ended up merging the PC's with the Canadian Alliance, which was Reform in disguise, and then served as a senior cabinet Minister (Foreign Affairs, Defence, Justice) in the Harper government.

Because of his ties to the old PC's, MacKay is generally viewed as a moderate, as the PC's were largely centre to centre right on most issues. Some have even gone so far as to call him a Red Tory, which I would argue is too far. His pitch for the leadership generally rests on his experience, the fact he is relatively telegenic (He won sexiest MP several years in a row) and his reputation as a centrist. I have not heard much in the way of actual policy, but his political instincts appear to be a little rusty after four years on the sidelines; his campaign has been less than stellar so far.

Huh interesting. I do know that the modern Conservative Party was formed from a merger involving the PCs.

Yeah. In this case, Reform simply did not just vore the PCs into their party: there are still some members of the Progressive Conservatives still in the Conservative Party.

[Jedi Council]

MacKay is the last leader of the Progressive Conservative (PC) Party. The PC's used to be the main right wing Party in Canada until they imploded in 93' whereby the Reform Party replaced them. MacKay ended up merging the PC's with the Canadian Alliance, which was Reform in disguise, and then served as a senior cabinet Minister (Foreign Affairs, Defence, Justice) in the Harper government.

Because of his ties to the old PC's, MacKay is generally viewed as a moderate, as the PC's were largely centre to centre right on most issues. Some have even gone so far as to call him a Red Tory, which I would argue is too far. His pitch for the leadership generally rests on his experience, the fact he is relatively telegenic (He won sexiest MP several years in a row) and his reputation as a centrist. I have not heard much in the way of actual policy, but his political instincts appear to be a little rusty after four years on the sidelines; his campaign has been less than stellar so far.

Huh interesting. I do know that the modern Conservative Party was formed from a merger involving the PCs.

It was quite a shame really, the Old PC's were not nearly as reactionary as the current CPC is. Joe Clark, Robert Stanfield, these are the kind of moderate, reasonable, and respectable people the current CPC really lacks.

[Outer Sparta]

Huh interesting. I do know that the modern Conservative Party was formed from a merger involving the PCs.

Yeah. In this case, Reform simply did not just vore the PCs into their party: there are still some members of the Progressive Conservatives still in the Conservative Party.

I don't really pay that much attention to Canadian politics apart from the federal elections and whatever news of Doug Ford that manages to sneak across the border.

[Jedi Council]

Huh interesting. I do know that the modern Conservative Party was formed from a merger involving the PCs.

Yeah. In this case, Reform simply did not just vore the PCs into their party: there are still some members of the Progressive Conservatives still in the Conservative Party.

Some PC's chose to stay with the CPC, but alot of the PC centrists, or even the left leaning Red Tories migrated over to the Liberals.

People like O'Toole, MacKay, Raitt, they could have been members of the PC's back in the day, but they would have labelled "Blue Tories" to denote that they sat on the right of the Party.

[Luziyca]

Yeah. In this case, Reform simply did not just vore the PCs into their party: there are still some members of the Progressive Conservatives still in the Conservative Party.

Some PC's chose to stay with the CPC, but alot of the PC centrists, or even the left leaning Red Tories migrated over to the Liberals.

People like O'Toole, MacKay, Raitt, they could have been members of the PC's back in the day, but they would have labelled "Blue Tories" to denote that they sat on the right of the Party.

Interesting.