Canadian Politics

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Political activist I don't agree with = bad

"""Political activist"""

She is a Political activist in all normal definitions of the word.

She is actively giving speeches, on a political topic.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I vote for and support Andrew Scheer of the (Conservative) Party.

GMS Alberto.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Polls open tomorrow, no matter what political ideology you subscribe to, I encourage all Canadian posters here to go out and vote tomorrow.

[Luziyca]

Polls open tomorrow, no matter what political ideology you subscribe to, I encourage all Canadian posters here to go out and vote tomorrow.

That is my plan.

[Outer Sparta]

Question: Let's say the Conservatives win the most seats but not the majority (a possible outcome). Will it just be the Conservatives in charge of a minority government or will there be a coalition government between Liberals and the others? I don't know too much about the ins and outs of Canadian politics, so I just want more knowledge regarding this topic.

[Shrillland]

Question: Let's say the Conservatives win the most seats but not the majority (a possible outcome). Will it just be the Conservatives in charge of a minority government or will there be a coalition government between Liberals and the others? I don't know too much about the ins and outs of Canadian politics, so I just want more knowledge regarding this topic.

Most likely, given the history and the general feeling against coalitions in Canada, it'll be a minority government that will last only about 18-24 months. This will continue until the voters give the Tories or Liberals a majority just to stop the merry-go-round. It's the same thing that led to Harper getting his majority in 2011.

[Outer Sparta]

Question: Let's say the Conservatives win the most seats but not the majority (a possible outcome). Will it just be the Conservatives in charge of a minority government or will there be a coalition government between Liberals and the others? I don't know too much about the ins and outs of Canadian politics, so I just want more knowledge regarding this topic.

Most likely, given the history and the general feeling against coalitions in Canada, it'll be a minority government that will last only about 18-24 months. This will continue until the voters give the Tories or Liberals a majority just to stop the merry-go-round. It's the same thing that led to Harper getting his majority in 2011.

Usually, the norm in parliamentary politics is that whoever can assemble a working coalition gets to lead the government, regardless of whether the party is in the lead or not. Maybe I've been following too much on European and Israeli elections.

[Shrillland]

Most likely, given the history and the general feeling against coalitions in Canada, it'll be a minority government that will last only about 18-24 months. This will continue until the voters give the Tories or Liberals a majority just to stop the merry-go-round. It's the same thing that led to Harper getting his majority in 2011.

Usually, the norm in parliamentary politics is that whoever can assemble a working coalition gets to lead the government, regardless of whether the party is in the lead or not. Maybe I've been following too much on European and Israeli elections.

Nah, it's just that Canadians have a different temperament to such things. Coalition tends to be a dirty word for both voters and MPs since it's not the will of the people, at least that's the line used whenever it comes up. Even on the provincial level, they have minority governments and not coalitions.

[Outer Sparta]

Usually, the norm in parliamentary politics is that whoever can assemble a working coalition gets to lead the government, regardless of whether the party is in the lead or not. Maybe I've been following too much on European and Israeli elections.

Nah, it's just that Canadians have a different temperament to such things. Coalition tends to be a dirty word for both voters and MPs since it's not the will of the people, at least that's the line used whenever it comes up. Even on the provincial level, they have minority governments and not coalitions.

Gotcha. I'm kinda surprised by the general negativity of coalition governments by Canadians, tbh. Then again, I wouldn't know about this and my opinion would be taken with a grain of salt since I'm not Canadian and haven't been immersed in their political atmosphere.

[Luziyca]

Usually, the norm in parliamentary politics is that whoever can assemble a working coalition gets to lead the government, regardless of whether the party is in the lead or not. Maybe I've been following too much on European and Israeli elections.

Nah, it's just that Canadians have a different temperament to such things. Coalition tends to be a dirty word for both voters and MPs since it's not the will of the people, at least that's the line used whenever it comes up. Even on the provincial level, they have minority governments and not coalitions.

Indeed.

Coalitions may make sense, but it does seem like political suicide. In my province, we had a NDP-Liberal coalition in 1999, and well, let's just say the Liberal Party of Saskatchewan, while it still exists, hasn't had any seats since 2003.

[Dresderstan]

What about C&S, it seems to be working in B.C. for the NDP and Greens?

[Luziyca]

What about C&S, it seems to be working in B.C. for the NDP and Greens?

Maybe it might, but I reckon there'd be a bit of a backlash.

[Outer Sparta]

Nah, it's just that Canadians have a different temperament to such things. Coalition tends to be a dirty word for both voters and MPs since it's not the will of the people, at least that's the line used whenever it comes up. Even on the provincial level, they have minority governments and not coalitions.

Indeed.

Coalitions may make sense, but it does seem like political suicide. In my province, we had a NDP-Liberal coalition in 1999, and well, let's just say the Liberal Party of Saskatchewan, while it still exists, hasn't had any seats since 2003.

Do parties just not want to take the political risk of working together and being under the same umbrella or something?

[Outer Sparta]

Also if Canada had Australia's two-party-preferred vote or a proportional system, the results would look pretty different, especially under the former.

[Shrillland]

Also if Canada had Australia's two-party-preferred vote or a proportional system, the results would look pretty different, especially under the former.

Canada almost had a PR system....until Trudeau figured out that it meant coalitions would have to happen and that the Liberals could never achieve a majority again, then he scrapped it.

[Outer Sparta]

Also if Canada had Australia's two-party-preferred vote or a proportional system, the results would look pretty different, especially under the former.

Canada almost had a PR system....until Trudeau figured out that it meant coalitions would have to happen and that the Liberals could never achieve a majority again, then he scrapped it.

He could have just aligned with NDP or Greens if Canada switched to a proportional system. It wouldn't necessary be a problem, unless the problem is you have to negotiate with other parties to form a government.

[Shrillland]

Canada almost had a PR system....until Trudeau figured out that it meant coalitions would have to happen and that the Liberals could never achieve a majority again, then he scrapped it.

He could have just aligned with NDP or Greens if Canada switched to a proportional system. It wouldn't necessary be a problem, unless the problem is you have to negotiate with other parties to form a government.

Bingo. Nobody wants to compromise with anyone else in Canadian politics. It's a disturbing cross between the UK and US systems. Plus, the federal parties have to take the views of the provincial parties into account, and sometimes they can be quite divergent. The federal Greens, who are fairly far-left by Canadian standards, for example, have to contend with the centrist provincial party in PEI since that's where they've had the most success on the provincial level, and they're fairly divergent.

[Outer Sparta]

He could have just aligned with NDP or Greens if Canada switched to a proportional system. It wouldn't necessary be a problem, unless the problem is you have to negotiate with other parties to form a government.

Bingo. Nobody wants to compromise with anyone else in Canadian politics. It's a disturbing cross between the UK and US systems.

A two-party-preferred system would be way better than the current system. I still prefer proportional but if that cannot be achieved in Canada, why not take a page from Australia and do ranked-choice?

[Dresderstan]

Bingo. Nobody wants to compromise with anyone else in Canadian politics. It's a disturbing cross between the UK and US systems.

A two-party-preferred system would be way better than the current system. I still prefer proportional but if that cannot be achieved in Canada, why not take a page from Australia and do ranked-choice?

Canada did have a mostly two party system since the 1870s until 1921 with the rise of the Progressives/United Farmers.

[Outer Sparta]

A two-party-preferred system would be way better than the current system. I still prefer proportional but if that cannot be achieved in Canada, why not take a page from Australia and do ranked-choice?

Canada did have a mostly two party system since the 1870s until 1921 with the rise of the Progressives/United Farmers.

By two-party-preferred, I meant when all the votes are reduced to two major parties and supporters of minor parties have a preferred major party of their choice. It's like in Australia where the Liberal-Nationals and Labor make up the two major parties.

[Kubra]

Canada did have a mostly two party system since the 1870s until 1921 with the rise of the Progressives/United Farmers.

By two-party-preferred, I meant when all the votes are reduced to two major parties and supporters of minor parties have a preferred major party of their choice. It's like in Australia where the Liberal-Nationals and Labor make up the two major parties.

I mean in practice they do heyoooooo

[Napkizemlja]

Also if Canada had Australia's two-party-preferred vote or a proportional system, the results would look pretty different, especially under the former.

Canada almost had a PR system....until Trudeau figured out that it meant coalitions would have to happen and that the Liberals could never achieve a majority again, then he scrapped it.

National PR lists are a pretty bad idea for Canada tbh. Regional and provincial identities can be quite strong and national PR lists do have a tendency overtime to have the national government ignore less populous areas of a country. Multiple seat ridings with PR for said ridings could be a viable alternative. You'll generally roughly get an approximate distribution of the vote while also ensuring local representation.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Good luck to all candates. Will be off to cast my vote shortly.


Edit: Returned from voteing.

The local represtive of our district has served us well so I voted to relect him.

[Peoples Republic of Xabia]

While it obviously doesn't mean jack s**t I voted for my local PPC candidate in my school's mock election.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

While it obviously doesn't mean jack s**t I voted for my local PPC candidate in my school's mock election.

Thats good that you are geting polticaly active.

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I do stress, that despite who I voted for, Alberta does need more investment and jobs. Just not ones that fuck up the earth.