Canadian Politics

[Bear Stearns]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

No.

[Bear Stearns]

Regardless, Trudeau is really the definition of putting lipstick on a pig. Being a smiling, well-bred pretty boy doesn't really mask the blatant corruption of his administration.

[Bear Stearns]

so the Canadian Conservative Party?

I find it hard to take Albertan separatism seriously when only 27% of Albertans identify themselves as such. A serious movement would need a substantial base among those who identify with the new nationality, like in Catalonia (Q13) or Québec in 1995.

Ukranian-Albertans?

do you even know who Wayne Gretzky is

[Philjia]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

No, he's just an individual expressing his opinion, as everyone is entitled to do. If he funded Trudeau's campaign, that would be different, because that would materially aid his campaign.

[Bienenhalde]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

A famous politician openly making an endorsement is very different from foreign spies deceptively posing as Americans and spreading false information.

[Lemlar]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

A famous politician openly making an endorsement is very different from foreign spies deceptively posing as Americans and spreading false information.

obama's endorsement wont be helpful to the Liberals tbh

[Maqkaradj]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

No, but it won't do anything to help Trudeau

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

No, but it won't do anything to help Trudeau

It's absolutely not.

Some dude in the US saying "Vote for X" is different then alleged foreign people creating echo chamber's online to get a group of people to vote for someone.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Regardless, Trudeau is really the definition of putting lipstick on a pig. Being a smiling, well-bred pretty boy doesn't really mask the blatant corruption of his administration.

So called "corruption " that lead Canada to getting 54,000 jobs in September, continued support for NN in Canada, human rights and freedom on the rise, ect.

He isn't perfect, has done plenty of things wrong, ie the ditching of a new voteing system, deficit budget, saying we can't spend more on vets, ect

But really with NDP and Green not having much of a chance nation wide (greens might have a chance in this district tho), and not being that happy with the Conservatives, might as well vote Liberal and hopefully they get a minority government so that we can have proper debate and comprise on bills.

[Kubra]

Is Obama endorsing Trudeau the US meddling in a foreign election?

Yes, Obama isn't a politician anymore, but he is still very much part of that interconnected social class.

plus, he's betraying his fellow citizen Andrew Scheer ayy lmao

[Maqkaradj]

Lol Greta Thunberg in Alberta of all fucking places

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Lol Greta Thunberg in Alberta of all fucking places

So, whats exactly funny about this?

We need to get Alberta to know the dangers of climate change.

[Dresderstan]

Lol Greta Thunberg in Alberta of all fucking places

So, whats exactly funny about this?

We need to get Alberta to know the dangers of climate change.

They're not gonna suddenly go green just because some spoiled 16 yo brat from Sweden told them to.

[Major-Tom]

So, whats exactly funny about this?

We need to get Alberta to know the dangers of climate change.

They're not gonna suddenly go green just because some spoiled 16 yo brat from Sweden told them to.

Alberta wouldn't go green if Jesus Christ himself came down and demanded they do so. If the inventor of giant, obnoxious, lifted trucks demanded they go green, then maybe they'd listen.

And isn't the whole "Greta is some spoiled brat" narrative old now? You figured the pundit class would do a better job finding a new one-liner to use, total lack of creativity, really.

[Major-Tom]

Love or Hate The Guardian, their article regarding Trudeau is pertinent and informative. Trudeau and Scheer are more similar than different, frankly..

[Dresderstan]

Here's a question I've had for a bit; which leader is most likely to resign after the election or lose it in a leadership review?

[Tombradyonia]

So, whats exactly funny about this?

We need to get Alberta to know the dangers of climate change.

They're not gonna suddenly go green just because some spoiled 16 yo brat from Sweden told them to.

There's a spoilt brat from Mar-a-Lago (aka real estate conman from NY) in the White House right now. Maybe he has an opinion on Canadian elections?

[Major-Tom]

Here's a question I've had for a bit; which leader is most likely to resign after the election or lose it in a leadership review?

That's a fair question, if the NDP fails to make a splash (IE, say, caps out about 30 seats), I could see Singh voluntarily stepping down. Additionally, if the Tories find themselves in the 100-130 seat range, I could also foresee Scheer either stepping down or being forced into a leadership challenge.

Trudeau, if he manages to lose the election for the LPC and hand the Tories a minority government, I don't see someone with his level of hubris and entitlement willingly standing down from party leadership, nor do I see the LPC growing a big enough pair to provide a tangible challenge to his leadership, at least not for another few years.

[Dresderstan]

Here's a question I've had for a bit; which leader is most likely to resign after the election or lose it in a leadership review?

That's a fair question, if the NDP fails to make a splash (IE, say, caps out about 30 seats), I could see Singh voluntarily stepping down. Additionally, if the Tories find themselves in the 100-130 seat range, I could also foresee Scheer either stepping down or being forced into a leadership challenge.

Trudeau, if he manages to lose the election for the LPC and hand the Tories a minority government, I don't see someone with his level of hubris and entitlement willingly standing down from party leadership, nor do I see the LPC growing a big enough pair to provide a tangible challenge to his leadership, at least not for another few years.

I think it's fair to say Scheer is most likely to lose his leadership job, especially with how he had the opportunity to challenge the Liberals, but the campaign has been rough and the debates did not help at all, even with marginal improvements in numbers of seats and votes (I say 25-30 seat gain 1-2% increase) it could be seen as disappointing and he could be out, and in a minority government that might do more harm than good to the Tories honestly.

Trudeau is gonna cling on as leader regardless he's gonna have the biggest lost in terms of the parties (~30-40 seats 5+%) but if he's still the largest party, which I think he might he could stay on and form some sort of agreement with the NDP or Greens, I'm ruling out a full on coalition and see it more of a sort of C&S or informal agreement of parties to keep the Tories out.

I think if the numbers are right and the NDP are holding even with the losses in Quebec, making gains against the Liberals and Tories could keep Singh in as leader.

May I see her staying around, Blanchet will be the first Bloc leader in a while to not be ousted through infighting and the PPC, Bernier just needs to win his seat or the party might fade into obscurity, which I'd like if he lost it so that can happen.

[Major-Tom]

That's a fair question, if the NDP fails to make a splash (IE, say, caps out about 30 seats), I could see Singh voluntarily stepping down. Additionally, if the Tories find themselves in the 100-130 seat range, I could also foresee Scheer either stepping down or being forced into a leadership challenge.

Trudeau, if he manages to lose the election for the LPC and hand the Tories a minority government, I don't see someone with his level of hubris and entitlement willingly standing down from party leadership, nor do I see the LPC growing a big enough pair to provide a tangible challenge to his leadership, at least not for another few years.

I think it's fair to say Scheer is most likely to lose his leadership job, especially with how he had the opportunity to challenge the Liberals, but the campaign has been rough and the debates did not help at all, even with marginal improvements in numbers of seats and votes (I say 25-30 seat gain 1-2% increase) it could be seen as disappointing and he could be out, and in a minority government that might do more harm than good to the Tories honestly.

Trudeau is gonna cling on as leader regardless he's gonna have the biggest lost in terms of the parties (~30-40 seats 5+%) but if he's still the largest party, which I think he might he could stay on and form some sort of agreement with the NDP or Greens, I'm ruling out a full on coalition and see it more of a sort of C&S or informal agreement of parties to keep the Tories out.

I think if the numbers are right and the NDP are holding even with the losses in Quebec, making gains against the Liberals and Tories could keep Singh in as leader.

May I see her staying around, Blanchet will be the first Bloc leader in a while to not be ousted through infighting and the PPC, Bernier just needs to win his seat or the party might fade into obscurity, which I'd like if he lost it so that can happen.

I forgot about Blanchet and Bernier tbh, the latter of which is because of his irrelevance. Blanchet is lucky, in a sense, his leadership isn't charismatic or inspiring on the surface, but the Bloc has managed to surge under him. I think you're right to say he may not be ousted in a power struggle, I mean, especially if the Bloc actually lands in that 25-40 seat range that 338Canada predicts.

Scheer fucked up his campaign, I see him resigning rather than being ousted, he knows if he fails to make a dent in the Liberal lead that his career is all but finished. I mean, shit, the Tory voters chose Harper 2.0 as a leader, it's no surprise that it has backfired spectacularly.

Trudeau is going to face a tough time if he fails to garner the most seats - but I imagine he'd still hang on, as I said before. I think some parallels to the 1972 Canadian Election can be drawn with this campaign - Trudeau Sr. came off a landslide victory in '68 only to hold 109 seats vs the Tories' 107 after '72. The NDP made substantial gains and ended up holding the balance of power, letting the LPC hold onto a minority government for two more years.

I think that situation is eerily similar to the current campaign, the Trudeaumania has worn off for Justin just as it did his father, and just like his dad, he'll likely hang onto a minority government by a razor thin margin. The LPC ran a piss poor campaign in '72 and they're doing the same now.

[Dresderstan]

I think it's fair to say Scheer is most likely to lose his leadership job, especially with how he had the opportunity to challenge the Liberals, but the campaign has been rough and the debates did not help at all, even with marginal improvements in numbers of seats and votes (I say 25-30 seat gain 1-2% increase) it could be seen as disappointing and he could be out, and in a minority government that might do more harm than good to the Tories honestly.

Trudeau is gonna cling on as leader regardless he's gonna have the biggest lost in terms of the parties (~30-40 seats 5+%) but if he's still the largest party, which I think he might he could stay on and form some sort of agreement with the NDP or Greens, I'm ruling out a full on coalition and see it more of a sort of C&S or informal agreement of parties to keep the Tories out.

I think if the numbers are right and the NDP are holding even with the losses in Quebec, making gains against the Liberals and Tories could keep Singh in as leader.

May I see her staying around, Blanchet will be the first Bloc leader in a while to not be ousted through infighting and the PPC, Bernier just needs to win his seat or the party might fade into obscurity, which I'd like if he lost it so that can happen.

I forgot about Blanchet and Bernier tbh, the latter of which is because of his irrelevance. Blanchet is lucky, in a sense, his leadership isn't charismatic or inspiring on the surface, but the Bloc has managed to surge under him. I think you're right to say he may not be ousted in a power struggle, I mean, especially if the Bloc actually lands in that 25-40 seat range that 338Canada predicts.

Scheer fucked up his campaign, I see him resigning rather than being ousted, he knows if he fails to make a dent in the Liberal lead that his career is all but finished. I mean, shit, the Tory voters chose Harper 2.0 as a leader, it's no surprise that it has backfired spectacularly.

Trudeau is going to face a tough time if he fails to garner the most seats - but I imagine he'd still hang on, as I said before. I think some parallels to the 1972 Canadian Election can be drawn with this campaign - Trudeau Sr. came off a landslide victory in '68 only to hold 109 seats vs the Tories' 107 after '72. The NDP made substantial gains and ended up holding the balance of power, letting the LPC hold onto a minority government for two more years.

I think that situation is eerily similar to the current campaign, the Trudeaumania has worn off for Justin just as it did his father, and just like his dad, he'll likely hang onto a minority government by a razor thin margin. The LPC ran a piss poor campaign in '72 and they're doing the same now.

And then the question will be who can replace Scheer as leader?

After a brief look at '72 (Via Wikipedia) yeah I can definitely see the parallels between now and '72, and not just because the Liberal leaders are father and son.

[Forumland]

I would still like to know why Quebec is considered socially libertarian

I think Scheer would be the most vulnerable. Singh has done well compared to where he was about a month ago and Blanchet has successfully reinvented the BQ as a regionalist party. Trudeau will most likely hang on to his lead and the PPC is Bernier’s party so he won’t lose. There may be an outside chance for Elizabeth May if the Greens only end up with 2 seats however...

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So, whats exactly funny about this?

We need to get Alberta to know the dangers of climate change.

They're not gonna suddenly go green just because some spoiled 16 yo brat from Sweden told them to.

Political activist I don't agree with = bad

Not good logic. Hey, you got to convince the people who don't believe you in order to change the world.

[Dresderstan]

They're not gonna suddenly go green just because some spoiled 16 yo brat from Sweden told them to.

Political activist I don't agree with = bad

"""Political activist"""