15 year-old boy forced to register as sex offender

[Gormwood]

Say isn't this the sort of thing that got you and whatshisname warned and sent the both of you into fits of reporting others?

You mean Torra?

He is a she. If you're gonna bring up people unrelated to this thread then at least have the dignity to not misgender them.

I mean, come. I'm an evil Nazi right-winger and even I don't do that.

Okay, she. You should try being less bitter if you're not an IPA. Better for your health.

[Greater Cesnica]

Why should a minor be prosecuted for sexting another minor if there was no coercion behind it?

He tried to pressure them into it a bunch of times.

I asked my partner to smash for 2 months before she finally consented. And we were underage. Throw me in Federal Prison please.

[Cekoviu]

Common != reasonable. Here's an example that should hit home - misandry is common. Does that make it reasonable?

You make a valid argument.

Then again, I've been badgered by girlfriends for me to buy them things that were expensive even though they don't live with me and I don't support them, but I never thought it was theft when I finally complied, and I doubt the state would either.

That's fair. The actual badgering to do something unnecessary - that's what I'd consider to be the problem. Depending on the intensity, it could well be reasonable to call it harassment.
That's why it wouldn't really be fair to call this case sexual assault, but sexual harassment is a more allowable term.

[Magisterial Imperium]

I asked my partner to smash for 2 months before she finally consented. And we were underage. Throw me in Federal Prison please.

Well we’re you nice about it?

[Ors Might]

Why should a minor be prosecuted for sexting another minor if there was no coercion behind it?

He tried to pressure them into it a bunch of times.

And? This pressuring as far as we can tell was most likely pitiful pleading. Why should that result in prosecution?

[Cekoviu]

You mean Torra?

He is a she. If you're gonna bring up people unrelated to this thread then at least have the dignity to not misgender them.

I mean, come. I'm an evil Nazi right-winger and even I don't do that.

Okay, she. You should try being less bitter if you're not an IPA. Better for your health.

I wish I was the IPA. Linguists would love me.

[Greater Cesnica]

I asked my partner to smash for 2 months before she finally consented. And we were underage. Throw me in Federal Prison please.

Well we’re you nice about it?

yee

[Galloism]

You make a valid argument.

Then again, I've been badgered by girlfriends for me to buy them things that were expensive even though they don't live with me and I don't support them, but I never thought it was theft when I finally complied, and I doubt the state would either.

That's fair. The actual badgering to do something unnecessary - that's what I'd consider to be the problem. Depending on the intensity, it could well be reasonable to call it harassment.
That's why it wouldn't really be fair to call this case sexual assault, but sexual harassment is a more allowable term.

Sexual harassment not being a crime but a civil matter mind you, I'd like to once again put forward the idea of seizing the xbox.

Also, it's probably telling that the girls in question never filed any sort of complaint, nor did their parents, about the photos - at least as far as I can tell. It was an unrelated investigation that uncovered them.

[Greed and Death]

Carlos Danger Did Nothing Wrong.

Mr. Weiner (I know, unfortunate name) was an adult at the time he sexted a minor. They should have thrown the book harder at him imo.

I feel sorry for his wife. She is blamed for Clinton losing the election and her fault seems to have been she married a perv.

[Nova Cyberia]

You mean Torra?

He is a she. If you're gonna bring up people unrelated to this thread then at least have the dignity to not misgender them.

I mean, come. I'm an evil Nazi right-winger and even I don't do that.

Okay, she. You should try being less bitter if you're not an IPA. Better for your health.

Oh, Gauth. Come on. You're trying way too hard. I could fart out better snark than this in my sleep.

[Greater Cesnica]

That's fair. The actual badgering to do something unnecessary - that's what I'd consider to be the problem. Depending on the intensity, it could well be reasonable to call it harassment.
That's why it wouldn't really be fair to call this case sexual assault, but sexual harassment is a more allowable term.

Sexual harassment not being a crime but a civil matter mind you, I'd like to once again put forward the idea of seizing the xbox.

Also, it's probably telling that the girls in question never filed any sort of complaint, nor did their parents, about the photos - at least as far as I can tell. It was an unrelated investigation that uncovered them.

If the girls did not have a problem with it after sending the nudes, and they never filed charges, why are they the victims again?

[Cekoviu]

That's fair. The actual badgering to do something unnecessary - that's what I'd consider to be the problem. Depending on the intensity, it could well be reasonable to call it harassment.
That's why it wouldn't really be fair to call this case sexual assault, but sexual harassment is a more allowable term.

Sexual harassment not being a crime but a civil matter mind you, I'd like to once again put forward the idea of seizing the xbox.

Good place to start, I suppose.

Also, it's probably telling that the girls in question never filed any sort of complaint, nor did their parents, about the photos - at least as far as I can tell. It was an unrelated investigation that uncovered them.

Well, the issue is that they could've been worried about their nudes being released as a reaction to their report if he found out (which he would). I don't think that's necessarily indicative of anything.

[Ifreann]

So you don't think that teenagers are responsible for their own actions? Then you don't think that EH and LB are at fault for sending nude pictures to TB.
Or you do think that teenagers are responsible for their own actions? Then you do think that TB is responsible for his actions. Sending the two girls unsolicited dick pics and insisting that they reciprocate and keeping the pictures when they did.

Honestly, Iffy, they're all kids. Yes, TB is responsible for sending unsolicited dick pics and then keeping them. EH and LB are responsible for sending nudes back to him.

About as responsible as any group of 15-year olds can be, anyway.

I don't, however, believe any of them are entirely 100% responsible as if they were adults.

Do not ask questions of the elves, for they will say both yes and no.

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The authorities and those defending the boy's punishment believe that by simply asking again for nudes he somehow was blackmailing them or some shit. If anything by sending a nude first he put himself in a vulnerable position.

Apparently being asked to do something more than once absolves you of all agency.

Under Colorado law a person can't exploit themselves.

So EH and LB cannot be charged with sexually exploiting themselves.

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By your logic it isn't rape to harass someone into having sex with you because it's still voluntary.

And at no point has anyone said it would be OK if the genders were reversed.

So how were these girls stripped of their ability to consent?

"Why can't underage children consent?" - Ors Might 2019

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Considering the circumstances I wouldn't call this heinous (though I suspect you say that in jest).

Oh I think the whole situation is fucking retarded and nobody should have been in trouble at all, but if we're gonna throw punishments around we should be consistent.

It's been pointed out repeatedly that the actions of TB were not the same as those of LH and EB.

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Sexual harassment not being a crime but a civil matter mind you, I'd like to once again put forward the idea of seizing the xbox.

Also, it's probably telling that the girls in question never filed any sort of complaint, nor did their parents, about the photos - at least as far as I can tell. It was an unrelated investigation that uncovered them.

If the girls did not have a problem with it after sending the nudes, and they never filed charges, why are they the victims again?

Why, indeed, are the children in child pornography considered victims?

We may never know.

[Nova Cyberia]

Sexual harassment not being a crime but a civil matter mind you, I'd like to once again put forward the idea of seizing the xbox.

Also, it's probably telling that the girls in question never filed any sort of complaint, nor did their parents, about the photos - at least as far as I can tell. It was an unrelated investigation that uncovered them.

If the girls did not have a problem with it after sending the nudes, and they never filed charges, why are they the victims again?

Because females must always be the victims.

[Magisterial Imperium]

Well we’re you nice about it?

yee

Then I don’t give a shit. Besides, you were in a relationship, this guy is just coyfully going out pressuring people here barely knows to send him nudes.

[Galloism]

Sexual harassment not being a crime but a civil matter mind you, I'd like to once again put forward the idea of seizing the xbox.

Good place to start, I suppose.

Also, it's probably telling that the girls in question never filed any sort of complaint, nor did their parents, about the photos - at least as far as I can tell. It was an unrelated investigation that uncovered them.

Well, the issue is that they could've been worried about their nudes being released as a reaction to their report if he found out (which he would). I don't think that's necessarily indicative of anything.

That's valid too I suppose - if that was the circumstance. There's nothing in the court documents to really say either way.

[Galloism]

"Why can't underage children consent?" - Ors Might 2019

Ironically, if he had repeatedly badgered them into having a threeway in his kitchen, they'd all be protected by the romeo and juliet law in Colorado and there would be no crime at all.

As long as no one photographed it, anyway.

[Ors Might]

Honestly, Iffy, they're all kids. Yes, TB is responsible for sending unsolicited dick pics and then keeping them. EH and LB are responsible for sending nudes back to him.

About as responsible as any group of 15-year olds can be, anyway.

I don't, however, believe any of them are entirely 100% responsible as if they were adults.

Do not ask questions of the elves, for they will say both yes and no.

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Apparently being asked to do something more than once absolves you of all agency.

Under Colorado law a person can't exploit themselves.

So EH and LB cannot be charged with sexually exploiting themselves.

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So how were these girls stripped of their ability to consent?

"Why can't underage children consent?" - Ors Might 2019

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Oh I think the whole situation is fucking retarded and nobody should have been in trouble at all, but if we're gonna throw punishments around we should be consistent.

It's been pointed out repeatedly that the actions of TB were not the same as those of LH and EB.

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If the girls did not have a problem with it after sending the nudes, and they never filed charges, why are they the victims again?

Why, indeed, are the children in child pornography considered victims?

We may never know.

Only two of them were under the age of consent by Colorado law. Him and the girl his age.

[Ifreann]

If the girls did not have a problem with it after sending the nudes, and they never filed charges, why are they the victims again?

Because females must always be the victims.

Because people can't be charged with sexually exploiting themselves in Colorado. As has been explained to you already.

The fuck is up with all you people not understanding this?

[Gormwood]

Sexual harassment not being a crime but a civil matter mind you, I'd like to once again put forward the idea of seizing the xbox.

Also, it's probably telling that the girls in question never filed any sort of complaint, nor did their parents, about the photos - at least as far as I can tell. It was an unrelated investigation that uncovered them.

If the girls did not have a problem with it after sending the nudes, and they never filed charges, why are they the victims again?

Funny thing is how your golden boy was busted with the clit pics because police were investigating allegations from two other girls about something similar in the ballpark so to speak. Might not be the innocent victim people here have been lionizing him as.

[Gormwood]

Because females must always be the victims.

Because people can't be charged with sexually exploiting themselves in Colorado. As has been explained to you already.

The fuck is up with all you people not understanding this?

Can't let facts ruin the narrative of vaginal tyranny.

[Galloism]

If the girls did not have a problem with it after sending the nudes, and they never filed charges, why are they the victims again?

Funny thing is how your golden boy was busted with the clit pics because police were investigating allegations from two other girls about something similar in the ballpark so to speak. Might not be the innocent victim people here have been lionizing him as.

I, too, like to presume guilt for people on crimes they've been unanimously acquitted of committing.

[Magisterial Imperium]

Funny thing is how your golden boy was busted with the clit pics because police were investigating allegations from two other girls about something similar in the ballpark so to speak. Might not be the innocent victim people here have been lionizing him as.

No, he’s a coy lothario.

[Ifreann]

Do not ask questions of the elves, for they will say both yes and no.

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Under Colorado law a person can't exploit themselves.

So EH and LB cannot be charged with sexually exploiting themselves.

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"Why can't underage children consent?" - Ors Might 2019

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It's been pointed out repeatedly that the actions of TB were not the same as those of LH and EB.

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Why, indeed, are the children in child pornography considered victims?

We may never know.

Only two of them were under the age of consent by Colorado law. Him and the girl his age.

Oh, well forgive me, allow me to correct my paraphrasing.
"Why can't an underage child consent?" - Ors Might 2019

[Galloism]

Only two of them were under the age of consent by Colorado law. Him and the girl his age.

They'd all be protected though by law if they had had a threeway instead - even the 17 year old.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/r ... e-laws.htm

Colorado’s Statutory Rape Laws and Potential Penalties
Statutory rape is prosecuted under Colorado’s sexual assault laws, and penalties depend on the ages of the defendant and victim, as described below.

Sexual assault occurs when there is penetration (vaginal intercourse, oral or anal sex, or penetration with an object or body part, however slight) between:

a minor who is 14 or younger and a defendant who is at least four years older than the minor, or
a 15 or 16-year-old minor and a defendant who is at least ten years older than the minor.
If the victim is 14 or younger, the offense is a class 4 felony, punishable by at least two years (and up to six years) in prison, a fine of $2,000 (and up to $500,000), or both. If the victim is 15 or 16, the offense is a class one misdemeanor, which is punishable by a fine of at least $500 (and up to $5,000), at least six months in jail (and up to 18 months in prison), or both. (Co. Rev. Stat. Ann. §§ 18-1.3-401, 18-1.3-501, 18-3-401, 18-3-402 (2018).)

Sexual assault on a child occurs when there is sexual touching (not including penetration), even if the touching is over clothing, when the minor is 14 or younger, and the defendant is at least four years older than the minor. This offense is a class four felony, punishable by a fine of at least $2,000 (and up to $500,000), at least two years (and up to six years) in prison, or both. (Co. Rev. Stat. Ann. §§ 18-1.3-401, 18-1.3-501, 18-3-401, 18-3-405 (2018).)

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The “Romeo and Juliet” Exception

Named after Shakespeare’s young lovers, “Romeo and Juliet” exceptions are intended to prevent serious criminal charges against teenagers who engage in consensual sex with others close to their own age. Colorado’s Romeo and Juliet exemption allows for consensual sex between a minor 14 or younger and a defendant who is three or fewer years older than the minor. There is also an exception for a 15 or 16-year-old minor who has sex with someone who is nine or fewer years older than the minor. (Co. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 18-3-402 (2018).)