15 year-old boy forced to register as sex offender

[Nova Cyberia]

Creating child porn is a crime in Colorado.

They all created child porn.

A 15 yo isn't a child anymore. Its an adolescent. Biggy difference. Also they did it themself.

They're like 2-3 years away from being in an age were they could marry and have children themself.

Until they're legally an adult it's considered child porn.

[Eurasian Socialist Combine]

The Lothario kept pestering them, that’s good enough for me.

I'd like to talk about my wage slavery.

Ok, let’s begin. I am listening.

[Galloism]

I'd like to talk about my wage slavery.

Ok, let’s begin. I am listening.

>tfw you're being funny and people take you seriously

[Nova Cyberia]

I'd like to talk about my wage slavery.

Ok, let’s begin. I am listening.

I'm poor.

Give me more money.

[Greater Cesnica]

A 15 yo isn't a child anymore. Its an adolescent. Biggy difference. Also they did it themself.

They're like 2-3 years away from being in an age were they could marry and have children themself.

Until they're legally an adult it's considered child porn.

Japan was fucking weird until recently. The age of adulthood was 18 but pics of nude 12 year olds was fine.

[Eurasian Socialist Combine]

I don’t think pestered consent is identical with, say, interested consent.

It is identical with consent consent though

Not really, if I pester you into sex this generally isn’t considered the same as real consent.

[Ors Might]

Ok, let’s begin. I am listening.

>tfw you're being funny and people take you seriously

How do you think Marxism started?

[Nova Cyberia]

Until they're legally an adult it's considered child porn.

Japan was fucking weird until recently. The age of adulthood was 18 but pics of nude 12 year olds was fine.

Fuck. Is that why we have loli?

[Ors Might]

It is identical with consent consent though

Not really, if I pester you into sex this generally isn’t considered the same as real consent.

Only by people who are wrong. If you pester me into having sex and I agree, all you’re guilty of is being annoying.

[Eurasian Socialist Combine]

Japan was fucking weird until recently. The age of adulthood was 18 but pics of nude 12 year olds was fine.

Nudity pics are also legal in the United States...

[Nova Cyberia]

>tfw you're being funny and people take you seriously

How do you think Marxism started?

[Greater Cesnica]

Japan was fucking weird until recently. The age of adulthood was 18 but pics of nude 12 year olds was fine.

Fuck. Is that why we have loli?

yep

[Greater Cesnica]

Japan was fucking weird until recently. The age of adulthood was 18 but pics of nude 12 year olds was fine.

Nudity pics are also legal in the United States...

Not of fucking 12 year olds it isn't.

[Eurasian Socialist Combine]

Only by people who are wrong. If you pester me into having sex and I agree, all you’re guilty of is being annoying.

And not respecting your humanity and real position on the matter.

[Nova Cyberia]

Fuck. Is that why we have loli?

yep

We have to go back.

[Ifreann]

Oh, well forgive me, allow me to correct my paraphrasing.
"Why can't an underage child consent?" - Ors Might 2019

You’re missing the point. The context is that my post was made in response to the claim that these girls were coerced because he asked them multiple times. My argument has not been that children can consent to sex so put that straw man back where you found it.

Ah, so your argument is that harassment is fine. Cool. Please continue to argue that if you ask someone for nude pictures and they say no, it's perfectly okay to keep asking and asking and ignoring their refusals until they get so fucking sick of you that they give in, not because they actually want you to see them naked, but because they just can't fucking put up with you asking any more. Very good. Very healthy behaviour. Definitely not problematic at all.

Here's a fucking thought for you. Maybe it was wrong to put TB on the sex offenders register for 20 years BUT ALSO his behaviour was bad and wrong and indefensible. Maybe both of those things are true. Maybe you don't need to try and defend shitty behaviour just because you think that the person who did the shitty behaviour was too harshly punished.

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Because people can't be charged with sexually exploiting themselves in Colorado. As has been explained to you already.

The fuck is up with all you people not understanding this?

Creating child porn is a crime in Colorado.

They all created child porn.

Because people can't be charged with sexually exploiting themselves in Colorado. As has been explained to you already. Maybe instead of flailing around to try and insult Gravlen you should have been reading his posts. You might have learned something.

[Galloism]

It is identical with consent consent though

Not really, if I pester you into sex this generally isn’t considered the same as real consent.

Ironically, it would appear that in this case he would have been better off if he had pestered them into a four way involving them, him, and his 23 year old brother.

[Ors Might]

Only by people who are wrong. If you pester me into having sex and I agree, all you’re guilty of is being annoying.

And not respecting your humanity and real position on the matter.

Having a position contrary to my own and wanting to push the matter is not disrespecting my humanity. It’s the natural result of people having differing wants at any given time.

[Greater Cesnica]

Only by people who are wrong. If you pester me into having sex and I agree, all you’re guilty of is being annoying.

And not respecting your humanity and real position on the matter.

Many people would say extramarital sex is degrading to your humanity but whatever. Also, respect is not counted in laws. What is counted is whether coercion or if the encounter was forcibly initiated.

[Nova Cyberia]

You’re missing the point. The context is that my post was made in response to the claim that these girls were coerced because he asked them multiple times. My argument has not been that children can consent to sex so put that straw man back where you found it.

Ah, so your argument is that harassment is fine. Cool. Please continue to argue that if you ask someone for nude pictures and they say no, it's perfectly okay to keep asking and asking and ignoring their refusals until they get so fucking sick of you that they give in, not because they actually want you to see them naked, but because they just can't fucking put up with you asking any more. Very good. Very healthy behaviour. Definitely not problematic at all.

Here's a fucking thought for you. Maybe it was wrong to put TB on the sex offenders register for 20 years BUT ALSO his behaviour was bad and wrong and indefensible. Maybe both of those things are true. Maybe you don't need to try and defend shitty behaviour just because you think that the person who did the shitty behaviour was too harshly punished.

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Creating child porn is a crime in Colorado.

They all created child porn.

Because people can't be charged with sexually exploiting themselves in Colorado. As has been explained to you already. Maybe instead of flailing around to try and insult Gravlen you should have been reading his posts. You might have learned something.

Ah, the teeth-pulling has worked at last.

[Galloism]

Maybe it was wrong to put TB on the sex offenders register for 20 years BUT ALSO his behaviour was bad and wrong and indefensible.

I'd once again like to float the possibility of taking his xbox away.

[Ors Might]

You’re missing the point. The context is that my post was made in response to the claim that these girls were coerced because he asked them multiple times. My argument has not been that children can consent to sex so put that straw man back where you found it.

Ah, so your argument is that harassment is fine. Cool. Please continue to argue that if you ask someone for nude pictures and they say no, it's perfectly okay to keep asking and asking and ignoring their refusals until they get so fucking sick of you that they give in, not because they actually want you to see them naked, but because they just can't fucking put up with you asking any more. Very good. Very healthy behaviour. Definitely not problematic at all.

Here's a fucking thought for you. Maybe it was wrong to put TB on the sex offenders register for 20 years BUT ALSO his behaviour was bad and wrong and indefensible. Maybe both of those things are true. Maybe you don't need to try and defend shitty behaviour just because you think that the person who did the shitty behaviour was too harshly punished.

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Creating child porn is a crime in Colorado.

They all created child porn.

Because people can't be charged with sexually exploiting themselves in Colorado. As has been explained to you already. Maybe instead of flailing around to try and insult Gravlen you should have been reading his posts. You might have learned something.

My argument is that asking for something after being told no is not by itself harassment. Dickish and immature, probably, but not harassment.

[Greater Cesnica]

Ah, so your argument is that harassment is fine. Cool. Please continue to argue that if you ask someone for nude pictures and they say no, it's perfectly okay to keep asking and asking and ignoring their refusals until they get so fucking sick of you that they give in, not because they actually want you to see them naked, but because they just can't fucking put up with you asking any more. Very good. Very healthy behaviour. Definitely not problematic at all.

Here's a fucking thought for you. Maybe it was wrong to put TB on the sex offenders register for 20 years BUT ALSO his behaviour was bad and wrong and indefensible. Maybe both of those things are true. Maybe you don't need to try and defend shitty behaviour just because you think that the person who did the shitty behaviour was too harshly punished.

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Because people can't be charged with sexually exploiting themselves in Colorado. As has been explained to you already. Maybe instead of flailing around to try and insult Gravlen you should have been reading his posts. You might have learned something.

Ah, the teeth-pulling has worked at last.

Look I actually agree with Iffy now that they've fully compiled their thoughts. But just a caveat... Block button.

[Eurasian Socialist Combine]

Not of fucking 12 year olds it isn't.

Go look up nudism on google.

[Greater Cesnica]

Maybe it was wrong to put TB on the sex offenders register for 20 years BUT ALSO his behaviour was bad and wrong and indefensible.

I'd once again like to float the possibility of taking his xbox away.

He actually has an old Nintendo collection.