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Cartoonist fired over Politically Incorrect Drawing
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:37 pmby Kowani
SourceTl;dr:
A publishing company in New Brunswick, Canada, has terminated its contract with cartoonist Michael de Adder after a drawing he did of President Donald Trump standing over the bodies of two drowned migrants went viral on social media
Of course, they’re denying it had anything to do with the cartoon.
Personally, I find it interesting how the normal “Free Speech Crowd” is completely silent on this issue. As for the actual firing, I’m surprised that this happened in Canada, but that’s business.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:39 pmby Farnhamia
I could have sworn we had a thread on this already.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:41 pmby Aclion
Reading the article you posted it look like all parties involved agree that you're lying.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:43 pmby Kowani
Aclion wrote:Reading the article you posted it look like all parties involved agree that you're lying.
You don’t find it suspicious that right after he draws a Cartoon criticizing Trump, he gets fired?
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:44 pmby Conserative Morality
Aclion wrote:Reading the article you posted it look like all parties involved agree that you're lying.
"All parties involved"
By that you mean 1/3 parties. Excellent math.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:46 pmby LiberNovusAmericae
Kowani wrote:SourceTl;dr:
A publishing company in New Brunswick, Canada, has terminated its contract with cartoonist Michael de Adder after a drawing he did of President Donald Trump standing over the bodies of two drowned migrants went viral on social media
Of course, they’re denying it had anything to do with the cartoon.
Personally, I find it interesting how the normal “Free Speech Crowd” is completely silent on this issue. As for the actual firing, I’m surprised that this happened in Canada, but that’s business.
I remember seeing this being talked about on Secular Talk. I condemn this, as one should not be punished for criticizing a head of state.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:48 pmby Nova Cyberia
We're expected to believe he was fired over the cartoon because one person (and not even the one who was fired) claimed so?
What a joke.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:48 pmby Conserative Morality
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I remember seeing this being talked about on Secular Talk. I condemn this, as one should not be punished for criticizing a head of state.
"Punished"
tbqh if you can't cut ties with a political cartoonist over their political cartoons, I'm a little curious as to what you can cut ties with them over.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:48 pmby Rojava Free State
In trump america, any and all criticism of the president is a heinous offense. Donald Trump is defending American freedom by taking away freedoms
In other words, I wish we could make George orwell fiction again
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:49 pmby Pacomia
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Kowani wrote:SourceTl;dr:
A publishing company in New Brunswick, Canada, has terminated its contract with cartoonist Michael de Adder after a drawing he did of President Donald Trump standing over the bodies of two drowned migrants went viral on social media
Of course, they’re denying it had anything to do with the cartoon.
Personally, I find it interesting how the normal “Free Speech Crowd” is completely silent on this issue. As for the actual firing, I’m surprised that this happened in Canada, but that’s business.
I remember seeing this being talked about on Secular Talk. I condemn this, as one should not be punished for criticizing a head of state.
Yeah, that’s authoritarian.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:51 pmby Gormwood
Conserative Morality wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I remember seeing this being talked about on Secular Talk. I condemn this, as one should not be punished for criticizing a head of state.
"Punished"
tbqh if you can't cut ties with a political cartoonist over their political cartoons, I'm a little curious as to what you can cut ties with them over.
Sexual assault allegations. *nod*
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:59 pmby LiberNovusAmericae
Conserative Morality wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I remember seeing this being talked about on Secular Talk. I condemn this, as one should not be punished for criticizing a head of state.
"Punished"
tbqh if you can't cut ties with a political cartoonist over their political cartoons, I'm a little curious as to what you can cut ties with them over.
You can, but cases like this should be condemned. This is a stupid reason to fire someone, and I have the right to comment on it; I'm not going to advocate that the state override the company's decision though.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:01 pmby Nova Cyberia
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:"Punished"
tbqh if you can't cut ties with a political cartoonist over their political cartoons, I'm a little curious as to what you can cut ties with them over.
You can, but cases like this should be condemned. This is a stupid reason to fire someone, and I have the right to comment on it; I'm not going to advocate that the state override the company's decision though.
There's no real evidence he was fired over the cartoon. It's just the claim of one person who was uninvolved in the matter to begin with.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:05 pmby Conserative Morality
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:"Punished"
tbqh if you can't cut ties with a political cartoonist over their political cartoons, I'm a little curious as to what you can cut ties with them over.
You can, but cases like this should be condemned. This is a stupid reason to fire someone, and I have the right to comment on it; I'm not going to advocate that the state override the company's decision though.
I don't even think it's a stupid decision, necessarily. Reflective of a stupid political situation, perhaps. But political cartoons are geared towards confirming the biases of their readers. If a political cartoon offends too many of its readers, such as, say, by acknowledging that the policies of an administration have led to horrifying outcomes, it doesn't serve its purpose. At least not for most for-profit companies.
It's a stupid world, but not a stupid reason.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:48 pmby US-SSR
Nova Cyberia wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:You can, but cases like this should be condemned. This is a stupid reason to fire someone, and I have the right to comment on it; I'm not going to advocate that the state override the company's decision though.
There's no real evidence he was fired over the cartoon. It's just the claim of one person who was uninvolved in the matter to begin with.
The Irving Group owns every English-language newspaper in the region. They are heavily involved with the timber products industry, which is heavily dependent on exports to the US. Per the cartoonist this is not the first time he has been warned off an editorial subject not to the liking of his employers; his cartoons were rejected 54 times over one year. He asked them why he was let go; they wouldn't tell him. If that's not "beyond a reasonable doubt" evidence it's surely "a preponderance of" evidence.
Fortunately he still has contracts with other publications so will just need to replace a portion of his income from the job he does so well.
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Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:49 pmby Thermodolia
Farnhamia wrote:I could have sworn we had a thread on this already.
You and me both
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:27 amby Lanoraie II
Kowani wrote:SourceTl;dr:
A publishing company in New Brunswick, Canada, has terminated its contract with cartoonist Michael de Adder after a drawing he did of President Donald Trump standing over the bodies of two drowned migrants went viral on social media
Of course, they’re denying it had anything to do with the cartoon.
Personally, I find it interesting how the normal “Free Speech Crowd” is completely silent on this issue. As for the actual firing, I’m surprised that this happened in Canada, but that’s business.
>silent on this issue
Why are you people so incapable of understanding the concept that something just hasn't been spread around yet? Why is this so foreign to you? I want to choke someone every time I see them say shit like "xxx is silent on this" God shut UP
YOU DUMB ROASTIE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF IT!!!!
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:43 amby Dogmeat
I mean, yeah, that can happen. It sounds like there's some dispute of whether he actually was, but assuming it's true. They can do that.
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:43 amby Dogmeat
Lanoraie II wrote:Kowani wrote:SourceTl;dr:
A publishing company in New Brunswick, Canada, has terminated its contract with cartoonist Michael de Adder after a drawing he did of President Donald Trump standing over the bodies of two drowned migrants went viral on social media
Of course, they’re denying it had anything to do with the cartoon.
Personally, I find it interesting how the normal “Free Speech Crowd” is completely silent on this issue. As for the actual firing, I’m surprised that this happened in Canada, but that’s business.
>silent on this issue
Why are you people so incapable of understanding the concept that something just hasn't been spread around yet? Why is this so foreign to you? I want to choke someone every time I see them say shit like "xxx is silent on this" God shut UP
YOU DUMB ROASTIE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF IT!!!!
Calm down mate.
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:48 amby Polish Prussian Commonwealth
On one hand, suppressing any sort of speech, no matter the reason, ought to be suspected.
On the other...why should I care about anything that happens in America's hat?
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:50 amby Gormwood
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:On one hand, suppressing any sort of speech, no matter the reason, ought to be suspected.
On the other...why should I care about anything that happens in America's hat?
Do you want to wake up one morning and find out the hat is in actuality a headcrab?
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:51 amby Highever
I thought his being let go had nothing to do with the cartoon and even the artist himself said so, or something along the lines of he wasnt losing his job because of political reasons.
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:25 amby Jakker
Lanoraie II wrote:[>silent on this issue
Why are you people so incapable of understanding the concept that something just hasn't been spread around yet? Why is this so foreign to you? I want to choke someone every time I see them say shit like "xxx is silent on this" God shut UP
YOU DUMB ROASTIE THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF IT!!!!
You can disagree with someone without saying that you want to choke them and calling them dumb. Also, autistic screeching is still not okay when using it to mock others even if you did it through a youtube video. *** Warned for Flaming and Trolling (autistic screeching) ***
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:26 amby Cekoviu
Gormwood wrote:Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:On one hand, suppressing any sort of speech, no matter the reason, ought to be suspected.
On the other...why should I care about anything that happens in America's hat?
Do you want to wake up one morning and find out the hat is in actuality a headcrab?
I was hoping it was just an out-of-place Antlion.
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Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:35 amby Dumb Ideologies
Seems to be an overreaction, but if we're going to have privately-owned newspapers presumably they get to choose cartoonists that fit their editorial perspective. I suppose everyone could send in their scrawls to a central agency who'd hold a daily raffle for it.