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Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:21 am**

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I was under the impression standard Christian theology held everyone to be sinners/unholy

it wouldn't be specific to her

You'd be wrong.

that is the version I am familiar with ("we are all sinners" variations)

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:21 am**

Heloin wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Cromwell did not hate kings.

I can easily think of one king who would beg to differ.

A king who, like Louis XVI, had betrayed his country.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:24 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:You know, I've been thinking.

By their definition, witches are devil worshipers as they practice witchcraft. So why would she be celebrating holy holidays like Christmas if she herself is unholy?

I was under the impression standard Christian theology held everyone to be sinners/unholy

it wouldn't be specific to her

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22:18.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:24 am**

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Heloin wrote:I can easily think of one king who would beg to differ.

A king who, like Louis XVI, had betrayed his country.

Listen I'm all for killing kings, but if Cromwell is going to take time out of his day to kill a king, he probably hates kings.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:26 am**

Also, why do you keep making threads about this person?

Heloin wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:A king who, like Louis XVI, had betrayed his country.

Listen I'm all for killing kings, but if Cromwell is going to take time out of his day to kill a king, he probably hates kings.

Or he just believed a traitor should be punished.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:27 am**

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I was under the impression standard Christian theology held everyone to be sinners/unholy

it wouldn't be specific to her

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22:18.

it doesn't say anything about the righteouenss of revoking a Christmas meal on that account

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:28 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22:18.

it doesn't say anything about the righteouenss of revoking a Christmas meal on that account

No, it says that she shouldn't be alive. But you've already blatantly ignored that.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:30 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22:18.

it doesn't say anything about the righteouenss of revoking a Christmas meal on that account

Feeding her prolongs her death and thus you suffer (continue to be subjected to) her living.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:32 am**

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
it doesn't say anything about the righteouenss of revoking a Christmas meal on that account

No, it says that she shouldn't be alive. But you've already blatantly ignored that.

The OT's commands are't all meant to be read literally

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:33 am**

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Also, why do you keep making threads about this person?

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:33 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:No, it says that she shouldn't be alive. But you've already blatantly ignored that.

The OT's commands are't all meant to be read literally

They were read very literally back then -- as all the witch trials and executions show.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:33 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:No, it says that she shouldn't be alive. But you've already blatantly ignored that.

The OT's commands are't all meant to be read literally

What you you think is the figurative interpretation of "Kill witches"?

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:34 am**

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Also, why do you keep making threads about this person?

because different moral dilemmas can be created using the same set up from time to time

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:34 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Exodus 22:18.

it doesn't say anything about the righteouenss of revoking a Christmas meal on that account

Christmas didn't exist when that was written.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:35 am**

Alvecia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The OT's commands are't all meant to be read literally

What you you think is the figurative interpretation of "Kill witches"?

Maybe "you will not suffer if you don't kill witches"?

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:35 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:

because different moral dilemmas can be created using the same set up from time to time

Everything you post is about her, though.

btw like the new anime girl design

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:35 am**

Alvecia wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The OT's commands are't all meant to be read literally

What you you think is the figurative interpretation of "Kill witches"?

Something-something "kill them with kindness" something-something "kill their witchy ways" something-something handwaving

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:35 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:No, it says that she shouldn't be alive. But you've already blatantly ignored that.

The OT's commands are't all meant to be read literally

How do you not read "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" literally? I'll be honest there's not much interpretation to that one.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:36 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:What you you think is the figurative interpretation of "Kill witches"?

Maybe "you will not suffer if you don't kill witches"?

That's the complete opposite of what all of the words definitionally mean.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:36 am**

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
The OT's commands are't all meant to be read literally

How do you not read "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" literally? I'll be honest there's not much interpretation to that one.

I would contextualise it to that narrow time period only

it was a specific command to a specific group (the Israelites) during a specific time

not a command to stand for all time

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:38 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:What you you think is the figurative interpretation of "Kill witches"?

Maybe "you will not suffer if you don't kill witches"?

That's some incredible bullshit you're trying to pull right there.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:38 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:You know, I've been thinking.

By their definition, witches are devil worshipers as they practice witchcraft. So why would she be celebrating holy holidays like Christmas if she herself is unholy?

I was under the impression standard Christian theology held everyone to be sinners/unholy

it wouldn't be specific to her

Sin may be sin, but shit like daemon worshiping in order to genocide a continent would be stake-burning by medieval standards and firing squad by modern standard

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:38 am**

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
because different moral dilemmas can be created using the same set up from time to time

Everything you post is about her, though.

btw like the new anime girl design

Many thanks!

I like to use this character from time to time in hypotheticals because I think that some characters should be recurring in NSG hypos

but every time, the dilemma should be changed so that there's new things to discuss and debate

for instance, the last thread was about extrajudicial execution vs life sentencing... this one is about the application of Christmas meal rights

the first iteration was purely about a life sentence vs a death sentence (without the extrajudicial element)

its always a bit different

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:What you you think is the figurative interpretation of "Kill witches"?

Maybe "you will not suffer if you don't kill witches"?

No. That isn't what it says at all.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 am**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Alvecia wrote:What you you think is the figurative interpretation of "Kill witches"?

Maybe "you will not suffer if you don't kill witches"?

"Suffer not the witch to live" means "Do not tolerate witches being alive".

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