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Should we grant the prisoner the Christmas meal?

Yes (Christmas is a time of joy and everyone should have some)
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No (revoke her Christmas rights for another year)
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:43 am

Ifreann wrote:
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1. She is not. As a Scandinavian high born, she was raised a Christian.
2. Hmmm... well you can raise a recommendation that Islamic priests(?) (what's the word, does Islam have missionaries?) be sent to talk to her after passing security clearances. The problem with that of course is that the entire committee has to vote in favour so you'll have to Justify it in a persuasive way somehow... Islam is not a particularly strong political force in Europe at this time...

In the actual Middle Ages, Iberia was controlled by the Umayyad caliphate.


I'd wager that Islam was quite strong in Europe from 711 until 1878.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:50 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In the actual Middle Ages, Iberia was controlled by the Umayyad caliphate.


I'd wager that Islam was quite strong in Europe from 711 until 1878.


Maybe the next iteration that involves this timeline should involve a dilemma that involves what's happening on the Caliphate side of things...
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Postby Page » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:52 am

I've already defeated her in battle, extradited her to Norway, and married her so I could convince her to do drugs with me instead of genocide in various alternate universes.

Anyway, yes I would let her have some nice food and wine, an act which on the scale of a state's budget costs basically nothing. I don't believe in being cruel for the sake of retribution.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:22 am

Page wrote:I've already defeated her in battle, extradited her to Norway, and married her so I could convince her to do drugs with me instead of genocide in various alternate universes.

Anyway, yes I would let her have some nice food and wine, an act which on the scale of a state's budget costs basically nothing. I don't believe in being cruel for the sake of retribution.


I see...

I also agree that revoking the meal would seem to be a form of petty cruelty at this point

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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:30 am

Page wrote:I've already defeated her in battle, extradited her to Norway, and married her so I could convince her to do drugs with me instead of genocide in various alternate universes.

Ten threads from now, you'll be divorced from Witch Hitler -- who will probably be the mother of your children -- and she'll be complaining about how hard it is to balance the school run and a busy career as a genocidal maniac.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:31 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Page wrote:I've already defeated her in battle, extradited her to Norway, and married her so I could convince her to do drugs with me instead of genocide in various alternate universes.

Ten threads from now, you'll be divorced from Witch Hitler -- who will probably be the mother of your children -- and she'll be complaining about how hard it is to balance the school run and a busy career as a genocidal maniac.


She must get up very early in the morning.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:19 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:Ten threads from now, you'll be divorced from Witch Hitler -- who will probably be the mother of your children -- and she'll be complaining about how hard it is to balance the school run and a busy career as a genocidal maniac.


She must get up very early in the morning.


Witch Annie is known to sleep in

This was the case even during the war

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
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She must get up very early in the morning.


Witch Annie is known to sleep in

This was the case even during the war


You're missing the reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVH0gZO5lq0&t=157
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:32 am

This woman from your hypotheticals shouldn't be in prison, how don't you see this? In the last one, I created the very good solution: ally with her and take over the world together!
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:49 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:This woman from your hypotheticals shouldn't be in prison, how don't you see this? In the last one, I created the very good solution: ally with her and take over the world together!

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:57 am

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:This woman from your hypotheticals shouldn't be in prison, how don't you see this? In the last one, I created the very good solution: ally with her and take over the world together!

IM keeps his RP campaign on rails and will tolerate no deviations from his plot.

My threadjacks are a work of art though.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:26 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Witch Annie is known to sleep in

This was the case even during the war


You're missing the reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVH0gZO5lq0&t=157


oh

I get it now

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Postby Chan Island » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:39 am

Witch Hitler can get f***ed.... but if we have to keep her around in a prison, then of course she should have her Christmas meal.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:46 am

Chan Island wrote:Witch Hitler can get f***ed.... but if we have to keep her around in a prison, then of course she should have her Christmas meal.


very interesting...

is that a bit of a contradiction though?

how do you reconcile these two?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:50 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Witch Hitler can get f***ed.... but if we have to keep her around in a prison, then of course she should have her Christmas meal.


very interesting...

is that a bit of a contradiction though?

how do you reconcile these two?

Bad person did bad thing so gets locked up but we don't have to be bad as well so we be nice
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Postby Chan Island » Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:55 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Witch Hitler can get f***ed.... but if we have to keep her around in a prison, then of course she should have her Christmas meal.


very interesting...

is that a bit of a contradiction though?

how do you reconcile these two?


Witch hitler deserves the death penalty in my subjective view, however since we have instead up her through the prison system that means she is entitled to the rights and privileges that prisoners get (except where it might aid escape or cause death).

So she should be dead, but since she’s in prison we need to treat her like a prisoner. And since prisoners get Christmas meals, so does she.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:21 am

Chan Island wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
very interesting...

is that a bit of a contradiction though?

how do you reconcile these two?


Witch hitler deserves the death penalty in my subjective view, however since we have instead up her through the prison system that means she is entitled to the rights and privileges that prisoners get (except where it might aid escape or cause death).

So she should be dead, but since she’s in prison we need to treat her like a prisoner. And since prisoners get Christmas meals, so does she.


I see...

Makes sense now

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:19 pm

When I made the thread I wasn’t sure what to expect

A part of me expected a forum majority to revoke Annie’s privileges

I have to say, my faith in humanity has gone up (as compared to before)

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:21 pm

She gets the same as all the other prisoners, whatever that may be.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:33 pm

Your hypotheticals are strange and I do know why you keep making these threads.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:46 am

Bear Stearns wrote:Your hypotheticals are strange and I do know why you keep making these threads.


I try to make my threads somewhat realistic (at least with respect to human nature)

bear sterns, what are your views on this ethical dilemma?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:48 am

The New California Republic wrote:She gets the same as all the other prisoners, whatever that may be.


This does make me curious

What do they serve on Christmas in American/european prisons?

I’m probably going to amp up the quantity and luxury factor because this thread exists in a world where holidays are sacred (not yet tainted with commercialism and true capitalism)

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:49 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:She gets the same as all the other prisoners, whatever that may be.


This does make me curious

What do they serve on Christmas in American/european prisons?

I’m probably going to amp up the quantity and luxury factor because this thread exists in a world where holidays are sacred (not yet tainted with commercialism and true capitalism)


As a counselor, I am setting up a vote to drop the gold standard, and make banking rules more lax. Christians can now charge interest on loans, etc.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:52 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
This does make me curious

What do they serve on Christmas in American/european prisons?

I’m probably going to amp up the quantity and luxury factor because this thread exists in a world where holidays are sacred (not yet tainted with commercialism and true capitalism)


As a counselor, I am setting up a vote to drop the gold standard, and make banking rules more lax. Christians can now charge interest on loans, etc.


What’s the medieval policy on usuary?

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Postby Purpelia » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:54 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
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As a counselor, I am setting up a vote to drop the gold standard, and make banking rules more lax. Christians can now charge interest on loans, etc.


What’s the medieval policy on usuary?

If you are a Christian or Muslim it's a sin. Otherwise go for it. But expect your debtors to periodically delete their debts to you via pogrom.
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