Christmas: Glass Box Edition

[Ifreann]

She didn't even commit genocide out of revenge, she carried out a genocide against fairies for no fucking reason.

Yeah why did she genocide the fairies? I don't see the reasoning behind it.

I'm guessing because IM wanted to mention that fairies exist.

[Infected Mushroom]

She didn't even commit genocide out of revenge, she carried out a genocide against fairies for no fucking reason.

Yeah why did she genocide the fairies? I don't see the reasoning behind it.

The fairies formed an alliance with the kingdoms and the Order.

Annie did not see the fairies as people (which was a fairly common point of view for the time period) and ordered her troops to systematically kill them on sight.

Up to that point, the fairies had been a third side in the war or else had opted to stay out of the war (there are many tribes).

...

Annie's policy with regards to non-magics was more complicated. She used terror tactics to try to intimidate the population from time to time and sometimes would use her magic in attacks that resembled modern day carpet bombing (and resulted in the deaths of millions of civilians).

However, her goal was never to annihilate all non-magic users. She only wanted to replace the non magical monarchies with a magical one.

[Andsed]

Yeah why did she genocide the fairies? I don't see the reasoning behind it.

The fairies formed an alliance with the kingdoms and the Order.

Annie did not see the fairies as people (which was a fairly common point of view for the time period) and ordered her troops to systematically kill them on sight.

Up to that point, the fairies had been a third side in the war or else had opted to stay out of the war (there are many tribes).

...

Annie's policy with regards to non-magics was more complicated. She used terror tactics to try to intimidate the population from time to time and sometimes would use her magic in attacks that resembled modern day carpet bombing (and resulted in the deaths of millions of civilians).

However, her goal was never to annihilate all non-magic users. She only wanted to replace the non magical monarchies with a magical one.

So she saw a race as subhuman? So she is basically just witch Hitler.

[Infected Mushroom]

The fairies formed an alliance with the kingdoms and the Order.

Annie did not see the fairies as people (which was a fairly common point of view for the time period) and ordered her troops to systematically kill them on sight.

Up to that point, the fairies had been a third side in the war or else had opted to stay out of the war (there are many tribes).

...

Annie's policy with regards to non-magics was more complicated. She used terror tactics to try to intimidate the population from time to time and sometimes would use her magic in attacks that resembled modern day carpet bombing (and resulted in the deaths of millions of civilians).

However, her goal was never to annihilate all non-magic users. She only wanted to replace the non magical monarchies with a magical one.

So she saw a race as subhuman? So she is basically just witch Hitler.

neither side viewed them as humans though because they weren't in effect human

[Free Arabian Nation]

The fairies formed an alliance with the kingdoms and the Order.

Annie did not see the fairies as people (which was a fairly common point of view for the time period) and ordered her troops to systematically kill them on sight.

Up to that point, the fairies had been a third side in the war or else had opted to stay out of the war (there are many tribes).

...

Annie's policy with regards to non-magics was more complicated. She used terror tactics to try to intimidate the population from time to time and sometimes would use her magic in attacks that resembled modern day carpet bombing (and resulted in the deaths of millions of civilians).

However, her goal was never to annihilate all non-magic users. She only wanted to replace the non magical monarchies with a magical one.

So she saw a race as subhuman? So she is basically just witch Hitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9muK2M36c

[Free Arabian Nation]

So she saw a race as subhuman? So she is basically just witch Hitler.

neither side viewed them as humans though because they weren't in effect human

I mean, even if the jews aren't human, the opinions on them widely varied from "Meh" to "Fuck them"

Essentially, yes, making Witch Hitler a literal Hitler

[The New California Republic]

Yeah why did she genocide the fairies? I don't see the reasoning behind it.

The fairies formed an alliance with the kingdoms and the Order.

Annie did not see the fairies as people (which was a fairly common point of view for the time period) and ordered her troops to systematically kill them on sight.

Up to that point, the fairies had been a third side in the war or else had opted to stay out of the war (there are many tribes).

So they can form alliances but they aren't people...?

[Andsed]

So she saw a race as subhuman? So she is basically just witch Hitler.

neither side viewed them as humans though because they weren't in effect human

Does not change the fact she has a similar view as Hitler.

So she saw a race as subhuman? So she is basically just witch Hitler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9muK2M36c[/quote
My thoughts exactly.

[Ifreann]

Yeah why did she genocide the fairies? I don't see the reasoning behind it.

The fairies formed an alliance with the kingdoms and the Order.

Annie did not see the fairies as people (which was a fairly common point of view for the time period) and ordered her troops to systematically kill them on sight.

Up to that point, the fairies had been a third side in the war or else had opted to stay out of the war (there are many tribes).

...

Annie's policy with regards to non-magics was more complicated. She used terror tactics to try to intimidate the population from time to time and sometimes would use her magic in attacks that resembled modern day carpet bombing (and resulted in the deaths of millions of civilians).

However, her goal was never to annihilate all non-magic users. She only wanted to replace the non magical monarchies with a magical one.

We all remember, of course, when Medieval England formed an alliance with the cats against France.

[Infected Mushroom]

neither side viewed them as humans though because they weren't in effect human

I mean, even if the jews aren't human, the opinions on them widely varied from "Meh" to "Fuck them"

Essentially, yes, making Witch Hitler a literal Hitler

there was a kill-fairies-on-sight policy ordered during the war

however, neither side (not even the Alliance) considered this a war crime because the laws of quarter and other protections only applied to humans (non magics and magic users)

you'll notice that this is why in the OP it doesn't mention "genocide" only that she's convicted of mass murder and war crimes (those refer to her destruction of the cities and towns and indiscriminate targeting of civilians)

her attacks on the fairies are viewed as genocide and a breach of war conduct by the fairies, but not by the other factions of the Alliance

the court did not sentence her for that

[Infected Mushroom]

The fairies formed an alliance with the kingdoms and the Order.

Annie did not see the fairies as people (which was a fairly common point of view for the time period) and ordered her troops to systematically kill them on sight.

Up to that point, the fairies had been a third side in the war or else had opted to stay out of the war (there are many tribes).

So they can form alliances but they aren't people...?

According to Christian theology in-scenario, they aren't part of God's original creation and so aren't humans

they're considered to be sentient but not human

[Free Arabian Nation]

I mean, even if the jews aren't human, the opinions on them widely varied from "Meh" to "Fuck them"

Essentially, yes, making Witch Hitler a literal Hitler

there was a kill-fairies-on-sight policy ordered during the war

however, neither side (not even the Alliance) considered this a war crime because the laws of quarter and other protections only applied to humans (non magics and magic users)

you'll notice that this is why in the OP it doesn't mention "genocide" only that she's convicted of mass murder and war crimes (those refer to her destruction of the cities and towns and indiscriminate targeting of civilians)

her attacks on the fairies are viewed as genocide and a breach of war conduct by the fairies, but not by the other factions of the Alliance

the court did not sentence her for that

Still Genocide, no matter how you twist it and say "well, the other side didn't think it was genocide"

[Infected Mushroom]

there was a kill-fairies-on-sight policy ordered during the war

however, neither side (not even the Alliance) considered this a war crime because the laws of quarter and other protections only applied to humans (non magics and magic users)

you'll notice that this is why in the OP it doesn't mention "genocide" only that she's convicted of mass murder and war crimes (those refer to her destruction of the cities and towns and indiscriminate targeting of civilians)

her attacks on the fairies are viewed as genocide and a breach of war conduct by the fairies, but not by the other factions of the Alliance

the court did not sentence her for that

Still Genocide, no matter how you twist it and say "well, the other side didn't think it was genocide"

it would only have been considered genocide (for the morals of the time period) if she had decided to systematically wipe out all non magic users

this was a policy she avoided (although she was willing to kill millions to win the war)

[The New California Republic]

So they can form alliances but they aren't people...?

According to Christian theology in-scenario, they aren't part of God's original creation and so aren't humans

they're considered to be sentient but not human

People =/= human.

[Andsed]

Still Genocide, no matter how you twist it and say "well, the other side didn't think it was genocide"

it would only have been considered genocide (for the morals of the time period) if she had decided to systematically wipe out all non magic users

this was a policy she avoided (although she was willing to kill millions to win the war)

No you said she was trying to wipe out all of the fairies who are a sentient people. That is genocide no matter how much you try and twist it.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Still Genocide, no matter how you twist it and say "well, the other side didn't think it was genocide"

it would only have been considered genocide (for the morals of the time period) if she had decided to systematically wipe out all non magic users

this was a policy she avoided (although she was willing to kill millions to win the war)

Fuck the morals of the time period then.

#JusticeForFaries

[Infected Mushroom]

it would only have been considered genocide (for the morals of the time period) if she had decided to systematically wipe out all non magic users

this was a policy she avoided (although she was willing to kill millions to win the war)

Fuck the morals of the time period then.

#JusticeForFaries

the political standing of the fairies has improved since the war (because they contributed to Holstadt's defeat) but there's still a long way to go for fairy rights

[Infected Mushroom]

So it appears that the votes for Annie's meal rights fluctuate between about 74-77% depending on the day

[The Free Joy State]

I mean, even if the jews aren't human, the opinions on them widely varied from "Meh" to "Fuck them"

Essentially, yes, making Witch Hitler a literal Hitler

there was a kill-fairies-on-sight policy ordered during the war

however, neither side (not even the Alliance) considered this a war crime because the laws of quarter and other protections only applied to humans (non magics and magic users)

you'll notice that this is why in the OP it doesn't mention "genocide" only that she's convicted of mass murder and war crimes (those refer to her destruction of the cities and towns and indiscriminate targeting of civilians)

her attacks on the fairies are viewed as genocide and a breach of war conduct by the fairies, but not by the other factions of the Alliance

the court did not sentence her for that

Oh, another new policy! Marvellous. And, if they were all doing it, they were all genocidal criminals and Heloin's idea starts looking better and better.

And, it doesn't matter that the side committing genocide doesn't see it as genocide. It's still genocide for someone to try to wipe out millions based on their characteristics.

The Nazis didn't see it as genocide either. That argument did not hold water when they were up in court.

Comparisons between Hitler and Witch Hitler remain entirely apt.

[Infected Mushroom]

there was a kill-fairies-on-sight policy ordered during the war

however, neither side (not even the Alliance) considered this a war crime because the laws of quarter and other protections only applied to humans (non magics and magic users)

you'll notice that this is why in the OP it doesn't mention "genocide" only that she's convicted of mass murder and war crimes (those refer to her destruction of the cities and towns and indiscriminate targeting of civilians)

her attacks on the fairies are viewed as genocide and a breach of war conduct by the fairies, but not by the other factions of the Alliance

the court did not sentence her for that

Oh, another new policy! Marvellous. And, if they were all doing it, they were all genocidal criminal and Heloin's idea starts looking better and better.

And, it doesn't matter that the side committing genocide doesn't see it as genocide. It's still genocide for someone to try to wipe out millions based on their characteristics.

The Nazis didn't see it as genocide either. That argument did not hold water when they were up in court.

Comparisons between Hitler and Witch Hitler remain entirely apt.

Annie didn't go to court for her actions against the fairies though. Only for her actions against non magic users.

[The Free Joy State]

Oh, another new policy! Marvellous. And, if they were all doing it, they were all genocidal criminal and Heloin's idea starts looking better and better.

And, it doesn't matter that the side committing genocide doesn't see it as genocide. It's still genocide for someone to try to wipe out millions based on their characteristics.

The Nazis didn't see it as genocide either. That argument did not hold water when they were up in court.

Comparisons between Hitler and Witch Hitler remain entirely apt.

Annie didn't go to court for her actions against the fairies though. Only for her actions against non magic users.

Genocide remains genocide, whether or not it is acknoledged in court.

We have already discovered that the justice system in this timeline is worryingly pro-mass-murdering witches.

That's why Heloin's idea looks better and better every day.

[The New California Republic]

I mean, even if the jews aren't human, the opinions on them widely varied from "Meh" to "Fuck them"

Essentially, yes, making Witch Hitler a literal Hitler

there was a kill-fairies-on-sight policy ordered during the war

however, neither side (not even the Alliance) considered this a war crime because the laws of quarter and other protections only applied to humans (non magics and magic users)

you'll notice that this is why in the OP it doesn't mention "genocide" only that she's convicted of mass murder and war crimes (those refer to her destruction of the cities and towns and indiscriminate targeting of civilians)

her attacks on the fairies are viewed as genocide and a breach of war conduct by the fairies, but not by the other factions of the Alliance

the court did not sentence her for that

Time for a fairy uprising I think, or at the very least establishing a homeland somewhere, preferably possessing a deterrent that is the magical equivalent of nuclear weapons.

[Free Arabian Nation]

Annie didn't go to court for her actions against the fairies though. Only for her actions against non magic users.

Genocide remains genocide, whether or not it is acknoledged in court.

I mean, for god's sake. Many states still refuse to recognize the Armenian Genocide and the Japanese still refuse to admit they did war crimes

[Infected Mushroom]

Annie didn't go to court for her actions against the fairies though. Only for her actions against non magic users.

Genocide remains genocide, whether or not it is acknoledged in court.

We have already discovered that the justice system in this timeline is worryingly pro-mass-murdering witches.

That's why Heloin's idea looks better and better every day.

Well at this point you're going to have to wage war against the entire Alliance

because the Kingdoms are against fairy rights

[Infected Mushroom]

there was a kill-fairies-on-sight policy ordered during the war

however, neither side (not even the Alliance) considered this a war crime because the laws of quarter and other protections only applied to humans (non magics and magic users)

you'll notice that this is why in the OP it doesn't mention "genocide" only that she's convicted of mass murder and war crimes (those refer to her destruction of the cities and towns and indiscriminate targeting of civilians)

her attacks on the fairies are viewed as genocide and a breach of war conduct by the fairies, but not by the other factions of the Alliance

the court did not sentence her for that

Time for a fairy uprising I think, or at the very least establishing a homeland somewhere, preferably possessing a deterrent that is the magical equivalent of nuclear weapons.

the fairy leaders are satisfied with the gains they have made over the course of the war for now

although in the future, they may have to fight another war when they are stronger