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Should we grant the prisoner the Christmas meal?

Yes (Christmas is a time of joy and everyone should have some)
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65%
No (revoke her Christmas rights for another year)
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Total votes : 105

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:17 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
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Annie is doing okay on this poll though

I think that's because most of them haven't read this trainwreck of a thread and just saw "Aw, sad anime girl"

Or because IM got his dozens of puppets to back his waifu.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:18 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie is doing okay on this poll though

I think that's because most of them haven't read this trainwreck of a thread and just saw "Aw, sad anime girl"


there's nothing train wrecky about it

its really really simple and you can get 100% of the necessary information just by reading this OP alone

it tells you what you're supposed to focus on and it gives you 100% of the information needed

1. She committed war crimes and is a mass murderer
2. She's in jail
3. She's having a bad time serving her life sentence but is "well-behaved"
4. Does she get her Christmas meal or not in a society where its considered a big deal?
5. (edited in within 24 hours), no killing her

That's enough information for anyone to make a very informed decision.

Poll even makes it simple for you, Yes or No.

Its really very very cut and dried.

Nothing in the setup invites to consider anything else.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:19 am

Ifreann wrote:
Free Arabian Nation wrote:I think that's because most of them haven't read this trainwreck of a thread and just saw "Aw, sad anime girl"

Or because IM got his dozens of puppets to back his waifu.

Unthinkable(!) :roll:
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:19 am

I have no reason to think anyone could really be all that confused or misled by the OP

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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:20 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:I have no reason to think anyone could really be all that confused or misled by the OP

It's not the OP that's confusing, it's the rest of this thread
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:20 am

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except their is an element of truth here (the magic users WERE oppressed) while Hitler's narrative was purely fictional

A few threads back Witch Hitler was only bullied a bit as a kid, but now it's full on Pogroms and Warsaw Ghetto level shit.

By Witch Hitler 9987, she'll be the last witch alive, mother to a murdered child, wife to a murdered husband, daughter to murdered parents, the last survivor from a murdered village -- everyone she loved having been slaughtered before her, after years locked in the dark by evil non-magic nuns, whom she went to live with after corrupt non-magic judges stole her from her parents, as part of the government scheme to take witches from their parents and raise them in a non-magic schools to strip them of their magic heritage.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:21 am

I mean if you ask questions about the setup or the lore behind it I will supply the information

but nothing is being "made up," its simply "made relevant" when really out there suggestions are being made

(for instance, there's no need to consider the military power of the Order unless you make it relevant by suggesting a war or something)

but again, that doesn't necessarily stem from the OP

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:21 am

Free Arabian Nation wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I have no reason to think anyone could really be all that confused or misled by the OP

It's not the OP that's confusing, it's the rest of this thread


I feel like this is fairly well written (the OP) in terms of telling the reader enough info to make a choice

I try to make each and every OP written in such a way that a first time reader can make a reasonably informed choice

there's some really really interesting lore behind the setup and I supply the information when asked because I think it can enrich your consideration of the factors
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:22 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Heloin wrote:A few threads back Witch Hitler was only bullied a bit as a kid, but now it's full on Pogroms and Warsaw Ghetto level shit.

By Witch Hitler 9987, she'll be the last witch alive, mother to a murdered child, wife to a murdered husband, daughter to murdered parents, the last survivor from a murdered village -- everyone she loved having been slaughtered before her, after years locked in the dark by evil non-magic nuns, whom she went to live with after corrupt non-magic judges stole her from her parents, as part of the government scheme to take witches from their parents and raise them in a non-magic schools to strip them of their magic heritage.

And the day when they took away her only companion through it all. Her stuffed teddy bear that could talk and had catchy one-liners.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:24 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Heloin wrote:A few threads back Witch Hitler was only bullied a bit as a kid, but now it's full on Pogroms and Warsaw Ghetto level shit.

By Witch Hitler 9987, she'll be the last witch alive, mother to a murdered child, wife to a murdered husband, daughter to murdered parents, the last survivor from a murdered village -- everyone she loved having been slaughtered before her, after years locked in the dark by evil non-magic nuns, whom she went to live with after corrupt non-magic judges stole her from her parents, as part of the government scheme to take witches from their parents and raise them in a non-magic schools to strip them of their magic heritage.


well I haven't yet decided how exactly she was abused and oppressed

but in a future thread, if it becomes relevant, I could elaborate on that

perhaps there will be a future moral dilemma set in a time BEFORE she became "Witch Hitler," when she could still be redeemed or re-guided on a better path

in such a thread, more details will be supplied about the characters that abused and oppressed her
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:25 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:1. She committed war crimes and is a mass murderer genocide
2. She's in jail a totally impregnable superfortress where it is impossible to get at her
3. She's having a bad time serving her life sentence but is "well-behaved" she is totally broken so it doesn't really matter
4. Does she get her Christmas meal or not in a society where its considered a big deal?
5. (edited in within 24 hours edited because people actually want her dead and I want to spoil their fun), no killing her

Fixed.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:26 am

What in the fucking hell have I come across? What has this thread turned to?
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:28 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:By Witch Hitler 9987, she'll be the last witch alive, mother to a murdered child, wife to a murdered husband, daughter to murdered parents, the last survivor from a murdered village -- everyone she loved having been slaughtered before her, after years locked in the dark by evil non-magic nuns, whom she went to live with after corrupt non-magic judges stole her from her parents, as part of the government scheme to take witches from their parents and raise them in a non-magic schools to strip them of their magic heritage.


well I haven't yet decided how exactly she was abused and oppressed

but in a future thread, if it becomes relevant, I could elaborate on that

perhaps there will be a future moral dilemma set in a time BEFORE she became "Witch Hitler," when she could still be redeemed or re-guided on a better path

in such a thread, more details will be supplied about the characters that abused and oppressed her

Just so you know -- that, in my post above yours', is called overkill. Such a parade of overblown misfortunes for a character an author wishes to make the audience like would not attract sympathy for the character (who is already, as I said, beyond rehabilitation).
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:31 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:By Witch Hitler 9987, she'll be the last witch alive, mother to a murdered child, wife to a murdered husband, daughter to murdered parents, the last survivor from a murdered village -- everyone she loved having been slaughtered before her, after years locked in the dark by evil non-magic nuns, whom she went to live with after corrupt non-magic judges stole her from her parents, as part of the government scheme to take witches from their parents and raise them in a non-magic schools to strip them of their magic heritage.


well I haven't yet decided how exactly she was abused and oppressed

but in a future thread, if it becomes relevant, I could elaborate on that

perhaps there will be a future moral dilemma set in a time BEFORE she became "Witch Hitler," when she could still be redeemed or re-guided on a better path

in such a thread, more details will be supplied about the characters that abused and oppressed her

Can't wait to hear how the magicians so powerful that no one dares cross them sat on their asses and let other magic users get murdered all over the continent because something something Professor X.
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Postby Heloin » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:31 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:What in the fucking hell have I come across? What has this thread turned to?

A lynch mob for a fictional character. Impressive really, you don't often get characters that people just viscerally hate.

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:34 am

speak for yourself, I like her.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:35 am

Heloin wrote:
Hammer Britannia wrote:What in the fucking hell have I come across? What has this thread turned to?

A lynch mob for a fictional character. Impressive really, you don't often get characters that people just viscerally hate.

To be fair, there aren't many fictional characters that are literally Hitler with a wand.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:37 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Heloin wrote:A lynch mob for a fictional character. Impressive really, you don't often get characters that people just viscerally hate.

To be fair, there aren't many fictional characters that are literally Hitler with a wand.


Hitler’s motivations and justifications are really different

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:38 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:speak for yourself, I like her.


:)

But you won’t give her the Christmas meal :(
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Postby Andsed » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:39 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:speak for yourself, I like her.

Why? she committed straight up genocide of millions for petty revenge. How can you like someone as fucking evil as that?
I do be tired


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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:40 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Heloin wrote:A lynch mob for a fictional character. Impressive really, you don't often get characters that people just viscerally hate.

To be fair, there aren't many fictional characters that are literally Hitler with a wand.

Even Voldemort didn't carry our genocide to my knowledge.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:41 am

Andsed wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:speak for yourself, I like her.

Why? she committed straight up genocide of millions for petty revenge. How can you like someone as fucking evil as that?

she's qt
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Postby Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:44 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:What in the fucking hell have I come across? What has this thread turned to?

We improved it
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:46 am

Andsed wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:speak for yourself, I like her.

Why? she committed straight up genocide of millions for petty revenge. How can you like someone as fucking evil as that?

She didn't even commit genocide out of revenge, she carried out a genocide against fairies for no fucking reason.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:48 am

Ifreann wrote:
Andsed wrote:Why? she committed straight up genocide of millions for petty revenge. How can you like someone as fucking evil as that?

She didn't even commit genocide out of revenge, she carried out a genocide against fairies for no fucking reason.

Yeah why did she genocide the fairies? I don't see the reasoning behind it.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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