What the hell, does "Suffer not the Xeno to live" mean "Oh yeah, Aliens are cool. Don't kill them"?
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by Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 am
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 am
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
I was under the impression standard Christian theology held everyone to be sinners/unholy
it wouldn't be specific to her
Sin may be sin, but shit like daemon worshiping in order to genocide a continent would be stake-burning by medieval standards and firing squad by modern standard
by Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:40 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Sin may be sin, but shit like daemon worshiping in order to genocide a continent would be stake-burning by medieval standards and firing squad by modern standard
worshipping demons is not necessary for Annie to use her powers
She relied mostly on her raw magical power and augmentations though stolen relics
by Heloin » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:40 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Heloin wrote:How do you not read "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" literally? I'll be honest there's not much interpretation to that one.
I would contextualise it to that narrow time period only
it was a specific command to a specific group (the Israelites) during a specific time
not a command to stand for all time
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:44 am
Heloin wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
I would contextualise it to that narrow time period only
it was a specific command to a specific group (the Israelites) during a specific time
not a command to stand for all time
It's a call to kill witches. You're just desperately trying to dig yourself out of this hole now that you know there is precedent for just flat out killing Witch Hitler. Hell there is now precedent for my kill all witches cry from earlier in the thread.
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:45 am
by Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:45 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Probably demonic still, or at least be considered demonic by most if not all churches
this justification has been used by the non magical kingdoms to launch periodic pogroms against magic users
it was one of the reasons Annie started the war against the non magical kingdoms
by Heloin » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:47 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Heloin wrote:It's a call to kill witches. You're just desperately trying to dig yourself out of this hole now that you know there is precedent for just flat out killing Witch Hitler. Hell there is now precedent for my kill all witches cry from earlier in the thread.
Traditional Christian theology is generally at odds with the Order of Magic.
However, the Church has reinterpreted many of the texts so that the Order can co-exist with the non magical kingdoms. It was deemed necessary to preserve the peace after the Great Magical War.
There are lots of tools that can be used, contextual interpretation of Scripture.
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:54 am
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
this justification has been used by the non magical kingdoms to launch periodic pogroms against magic users
it was one of the reasons Annie started the war against the non magical kingdoms
Maybe there was a good reason? Not only are magic users daemonic but they produce witch hitlers.
by Heloin » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:56 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Maybe there was a good reason? Not only are magic users daemonic but they produce witch hitlers.
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
by The New California Republic » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:56 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Maybe there was a good reason? Not only are magic users daemonic but they produce witch hitlers.
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:57 am
Heloin wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
Witch Hitler is not a freedom fighter.
by Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:57 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Maybe there was a good reason? Not only are magic users daemonic but they produce witch hitlers.
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:59 am
Free Arabian Nation wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
So, they finally rose up and what did they do? They genocided millions.
They are not a race, not a religion, but a choice like driving on the left instead of the right side and they have proven themselves to be power-hungry maniacs. They must be destroyed for the sake of the human race.*quite German music in the background*
by Ifreann » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:59 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Probably demonic still, or at least be considered demonic by most if not all churches
this justification has been used by the non magical kingdoms to launch periodic pogroms against magic users
it was one of the reasons Annie started the war against the non magical kingdoms
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Maybe there was a good reason? Not only are magic users daemonic but they produce witch hitlers.
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:59 am
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:00 am
Ifreann wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
this justification has been used by the non magical kingdoms to launch periodic pogroms against magic users
it was one of the reasons Annie started the war against the non magical kingdoms
You said she genocided fairies.Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
But there's an international order of magic users so powerful as to be on par with all the mundane nations of Europe, and some kind of magical war that caused a Christian reformation.
You can't have it both ways, magic users can't be an oppressed minority and also totally dominate international politics.
by Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:00 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:So, they finally rose up and what did they do? They genocided millions.
They are not a race, not a religion, but a choice like driving on the left instead of the right side and they have proven themselves to be power-hungry maniacs. They must be destroyed for the sake of the human race.*quite German music in the background*
You're forgetting that magic users fought on both sides. The Order chose to side with the human kingdoms.
by The Free Joy State » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:01 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:Free Arabian Nation wrote:Maybe there was a good reason? Not only are magic users daemonic but they produce witch hitlers.
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:01 am
by Free Arabian Nation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:02 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
Try as you might, you will never turn Witch Hitler into a plucky resistance fighter.
No matter how you expand her origin story. You can make her an orphan, give her a floppy-eared dog and a stirring theme song, and we will never sympathise with her.
by Heloin » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:02 am
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:02 am
The Free Joy State wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
Annie was the only witch in history to really fight back on this scale
for most of history, its been pogroms ordered by the kings and the villages against magic users
there was a lot of oppression and massacres of magic users
Try as you might, you will never turn Witch Hitler into a plucky resistance fighter.
No matter how you expand her origin story. You can make her an orphan, give her a floppy-eared dog and a stirring theme song, and we will never sympathise with her.
by Infected Mushroom » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:03 am
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