Christmas: Glass Box Edition

[Kragholm Free States]

I thought I killed her first time round?

Also how is this just an alternate timeline of Medieval Europe? Magic aside, we have administrative committees whose members only serve 1 year terms voting on what to do (fine, assuming this is set in Venice) with someone who's being kept in a top secret glass prison, heavily medicated to keep her alive, and assessed by state psychiatrists? Why not just have this in a modern setting?

Give her a Christmas meal if she can recite the entire Bible from memory while standing on her head juggling ice cream, I guess.

[Infected Mushroom]

What’s the medieval policy on usuary?

If you are a Christian or Muslim it's a sin. Otherwise go for it. But expect your debtors to periodically delete their debts to you via pogrom.

I imagine you’d be hard pressed to find a non Christian and a non Muslim in Europe in those days

[Infected Mushroom]

I thought I killed her first time round?

Also how is this just an alternate timeline of Medieval Europe? Magic aside, we have administrative committees whose members only serve 1 year terms voting on what to do (fine, assuming this is set in Venice) with someone who's being kept in a top secret glass prison, heavily medicated to keep her alive, and assessed by state psychiatrists? Why not just have this in a modern setting?

Give her a Christmas meal if she can recite the entire Bible from memory while standing on her head juggling ice cream, I guess.

This... this is impossible 0_0

[Kragholm Free States]

I thought I killed her first time round?

Also how is this just an alternate timeline of Medieval Europe? Magic aside, we have administrative committees whose members only serve 1 year terms voting on what to do (fine, assuming this is set in Venice) with someone who's being kept in a top secret glass prison, heavily medicated to keep her alive, and assessed by state psychiatrists? Why not just have this in a modern setting?

Give her a Christmas meal if she can recite the entire Bible from memory while standing on her head juggling ice cream, I guess.

This... this is impossible 0_0

Not if God wills it, and that is surely the central consideration to make in this scenario.

[Infected Mushroom]

This... this is impossible 0_0

Not if God wills it, and that is surely the central consideration to make in this scenario.

Annie will be very sad if she doesn’t get her Chtistmas meal

[Kragholm Free States]

Not if God wills it, and that is surely the central consideration to make in this scenario.

Annie will be very sad if she doesn’t get her Chtistmas meal

She probably should have thought about that before she committed genocide.

[Purpelia]

If you are a Christian or Muslim it's a sin. Otherwise go for it. But expect your debtors to periodically delete their debts to you via pogrom.

I imagine you’d be hard pressed to find a non Christian and a non Muslim in Europe in those days

Didn't the word pogrom tip you off. Jews.

Both of those religious hated jews but tolerated them because judeism allows for usury and thus banking. That's where the whole stereotype of the greedy jew comes from. Back than jews literally were the people everyone owed money to. Unless you wanted to owe money to the Italians. That was an option as well. But skipping over merchant republic politics for a moment the TLDR is that when a local noble, or just guy with money needed more he'd go to the jews. And when that same guy decided he was sick of paying back his debts he'd round up the peasantry and tell them the jews were poisoning wells or something.

[Infected Mushroom]

Annie will be very sad if she doesn’t get her Chtistmas meal

She probably should have thought about that before she committed genocide.

I don’t think she was thinking about Christmas privileges

[Infected Mushroom]

I imagine you’d be hard pressed to find a non Christian and a non Muslim in Europe in those days

Didn't the word pogrom tip you off. Jews.

Both of those religious hated jews but tolerated them because judeism allows for usury and thus banking. That's where the whole stereotype of the greedy jew comes from. Back than jews literally were the people everyone owed money to. Unless you wanted to owe money to the Italians. That was an option as well. But skipping over merchant republic politics for a moment the TLDR is that when a local noble, or just guy with money needed more he'd go to the jews. And when that same guy decided he was sick of paying back his debts he'd round up the peasantry and tell them the jews were poisoning wells or something.

Ah I see

And is this a major factor contributing to historical anti semitism?

What’s your take on the scenario?

Does Holstadt get her Christmas meal? Or is it the same suffering as usual?

[Kragholm Free States]

She probably should have thought about that before she committed genocide.

I don’t think she was thinking about Christmas privileges

Well clearly she can't care about Christmas that much then, can she? And thus her 'sadness' at not being allowed a Christmas meal is nothing more than the attempt of a manipulative psychopath to elicit sympathy from her captors.

[Infected Mushroom]

I don’t think she was thinking about Christmas privileges

Well clearly she can't care about Christmas that much then, can she? And thus her 'sadness' at not being allowed a Christmas meal is nothing more than the attempt of a manipulative psychopath to elicit sympathy from her captors.

Would you feel sad if your Christmas meal gets revoked in her situation?

I think it’s natural

[The Blaatschapen]

I imagine you’d be hard pressed to find a non Christian and a non Muslim in Europe in those days

Didn't the word pogrom tip you off. Jews.

Both of those religious hated jews but tolerated them because judeism allows for usury and thus banking. That's where the whole stereotype of the greedy jew comes from. Back than jews literally were the people everyone owed money to. Unless you wanted to owe money to the Italians. That was an option as well. But skipping over merchant republic politics for a moment the TLDR is that when a local noble, or just guy with money needed more he'd go to the jews. And when that same guy decided he was sick of paying back his debts he'd round up the peasantry and tell them the jews were poisoning wells or something.

Or join a crusade, but why go all the way to Jerusalem to kill infidels when you have some conveniently at home.

Also, for IM, there were pagans in the Baltics until the 15th century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_mythology

[Kragholm Free States]

Well clearly she can't care about Christmas that much then, can she? And thus her 'sadness' at not being allowed a Christmas meal is nothing more than the attempt of a manipulative psychopath to elicit sympathy from her captors.

Would you feel sad if your Christmas meal gets revoked in her situation?

I think it’s natural

If I was a genocidal sorceress locked up in an inescapable prison, I'd probably feel generally quite sad about being locked up in an inescapable prison. What I get to eat at Christmas probably wouldn't be much of a concern.

[Infected Mushroom]

Would you feel sad if your Christmas meal gets revoked in her situation?

I think it’s natural

If I was a genocidal sorceress locked up in an inescapable prison, I'd probably feel generally quite sad about being locked up in an inescapable prison. What I get to eat at Christmas probably wouldn't be much of a concern.

Where would your focus/concern be?

[Infected Mushroom]

Didn't the word pogrom tip you off. Jews.

Both of those religious hated jews but tolerated them because judeism allows for usury and thus banking. That's where the whole stereotype of the greedy jew comes from. Back than jews literally were the people everyone owed money to. Unless you wanted to owe money to the Italians. That was an option as well. But skipping over merchant republic politics for a moment the TLDR is that when a local noble, or just guy with money needed more he'd go to the jews. And when that same guy decided he was sick of paying back his debts he'd round up the peasantry and tell them the jews were poisoning wells or something.

Or join a crusade, but why go all the way to Jerusalem to kill infidels when you have some conveniently at home.

Also, for IM, there were pagans in the Baltics until the 15th century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_mythology

Oh

Interesting

Well this is something you don’t often read about in the histories

Thanks for the info

Where did you learn this

[The Blaatschapen]

Or join a crusade, but why go all the way to Jerusalem to kill infidels when you have some conveniently at home.

Also, for IM, there were pagans in the Baltics until the 15th century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_mythology

Oh

Interesting

Well this is something you don’t often read about in the histories

Thanks for the info

Where did you learn this

Visiting said countries, asking questions to the locals. Also, getting lost on Wikipedia.

[Infected Mushroom]

Oh

Interesting

Well this is something you don’t often read about in the histories

Thanks for the info

Where did you learn this

Visiting said countries, asking questions to the locals. Also, getting lost on Wikipedia.

Have you traveled very extensively over Europe?

I believe that Europe is the most beautiful continent/land in the world

[The Blaatschapen]

Visiting said countries, asking questions to the locals. Also, getting lost on Wikipedia.

Have you traveled very extensively over Europe?

I believe that Europe is the most beautiful continent/land in the world

I live in Europe. So it easy to travel around it.

[Kragholm Free States]

If I was a genocidal sorceress locked up in an inescapable prison, I'd probably feel generally quite sad about being locked up in an inescapable prison. What I get to eat at Christmas probably wouldn't be much of a concern.

Where would your focus/concern be?

I don't know, probably manipulating the guards into letting me out? Seems like an eminently more sensible course of action than sulking because nobody's given you a plate of turkey.

[Infected Mushroom]

Where would your focus/concern be?

I don't know, probably manipulating the guards into letting me out? Seems like an eminently more sensible course of action than sulking because nobody's given you a plate of turkey.

the character of Annie was never written as a master manipulator

it's not her style of operation

its not really in her playbook

[Infected Mushroom]

Have you traveled very extensively over Europe?

I believe that Europe is the most beautiful continent/land in the world

I live in Europe. So it easy to travel around it.

I see...

and is there a difference between how Christmas is celebrated in Europe vs North America?

How about what it means to people on either side of the Atlantic?

here in Hong Kong, Christmas is massively massively commercialised holiday, to the point where I DEFINITELY could not set this hypothetical scenario in the far east in a similar city

[The Blaatschapen]

I live in Europe. So it easy to travel around it.

I see...

and is there a difference between how Christmas is celebrated in Europe vs North America?

How about what it means to people on either side of the Atlantic?

here in Hong Kong, Christmas is massively massively commercialised holiday, to the point where I DEFINITELY could not set this hypothetical scenario in the far east in a similar city

No idea, I'm not familiar with American christmas celebrations outside of hollywood movies and coca cola advertisements.

[Infected Mushroom]

I see...

and is there a difference between how Christmas is celebrated in Europe vs North America?

How about what it means to people on either side of the Atlantic?

here in Hong Kong, Christmas is massively massively commercialised holiday, to the point where I DEFINITELY could not set this hypothetical scenario in the far east in a similar city

No idea, I'm not familiar with American christmas celebrations outside of hollywood movies and coca cola advertisements.

where you live would you say Christmas occupies a sacred position to the people?

[The Blaatschapen]

No idea, I'm not familiar with American christmas celebrations outside of hollywood movies and coca cola advertisements.

where you live would you say Christmas occupies a sacred position to the people?

I live in Berlin. Predominantly irrelegious.

So not really. It's mostly about visiting christmas markets and getting drunk on gluhwein.

[Infected Mushroom]

where you live would you say Christmas occupies a sacred position to the people?

I live in Berlin. Predominantly irrelegious.

So not really. It's mostly about visiting christmas markets and getting drunk on gluhwein.

I see...

where in Europe can I find the most sacred/pure celebrating of Christmas?