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What about Donald Fagen and Bob Dylan and Dave Brubeck?

Postby Bluth Corporation » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:23 am

Will there be this much of a fuss when someone who is actually good dies?

I certainly don't remember all this nonstop coverage when Dizzy finally passed...
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Postby Parthenon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:24 am

Dylan, yes. The other two, not at all.
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:25 am

michael jackson is one of the most famous people in the world.

plus his personal life was.....compelling.

so no, there wont be the same level of press when these other guys die unless the manage to go in a spectacular way.
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:28 am

I have no frickin idea who Fagen or Brubeck are but picking fairly obscure people and demanding they be recognized as the most important people ever seems to be a trait of BC.
And isn't Bob Dylan alive still.
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Postby Rambhutan » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:32 am

I am sure a lot of child pickpockets would mourn Donald Fagen's passing
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Postby Pantera » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:35 am

Meh. I'll be mildly upset when Dylan dies. The other two I don't care about.

Dylan is a peerless songWRITER. His singing is dogshit. He should have let Joan sing ALL his songs. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUtfYlyk6k
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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:37 am

Bob Dylan has been influential not only musically but also politically. So he would be mourned by a lot of people. But those other people. Hardly anyone knows them. This is my first time even hearing about them.
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:40 am

Pantera wrote:Dylan is a peerless songWRITER. His singing is dogshit. He should have let Joan sing ALL his songs.


(a) Mimi was hotter
(b) His voice is perfectly appropriate for what he writes. How could "Simple Twist of Fate" be made any more poignant than with a rough, everyman voice like Bob's?
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Postby Cameroi » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:48 am

Brubek: one of the greats of jazz. i.e. real music.

'dylan' (robert zimmerman) PROLIFIC writer of lyrics.
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Postby Parthenon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:54 am

Pantera wrote:Meh. I'll be mildly upset when Dylan dies. The other two I don't care about.

Dylan is a peerless songWRITER. His singing is dogshit. He should have let Joan sing ALL his songs. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUtfYlyk6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EotM7FH8 ... annel_page
Dylan is the only person that could do this song...
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Postby Pantera » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:59 am

He has his moments. I wasn't trying to hate on the guy. I rock along with his tunes just fine, but he truly shines when he writes a piece and finds the perfect voice to suit it.

And Mimi was alright, I guess, but hotter than Joan?

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:05 am

Never really considered MJ to be the King of Pop. The 3 mentioned by the OP are far better. Dizzy, Miles, and a heap of Jazz players, Elvis, Hank, and many more names go before MJ. Black or White was the last bit of MJ's music I recall.
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Postby Rambhutan » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:12 am

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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:29 am

I heard Dylan live at Albany NY last year and I have never heard such miserable crap in all my life.

Every word, every note, was identical to every other one.

So although I cherish Blonde on Blonde and Highway 51 Revisited, he is no longer my idol.

Dave Brubeck's son is playing jazz on bass trombone with his ensemble at our lakeside music camp this summer.

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Postby The_pantless_hero » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:29 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:Never really considered MJ to be the King of Pop. The 3 mentioned by the OP are far better. Dizzy, Miles, and a heap of Jazz players, Elvis, Hank, and many more names go before MJ. Black or White was the last bit of MJ's music I recall.

I am pretty sure naming artists who arn't pop don't unseat Jackson as the king thereof...
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:37 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Never really considered MJ to be the King of Pop. The 3 mentioned by the OP are far better. Dizzy, Miles, and a heap of Jazz players, Elvis, Hank, and many more names go before MJ. Black or White was the last bit of MJ's music I recall.

I am pretty sure naming artists who arn't pop don't unseat Jackson as the king thereof...


Ya know, the king of Pop in my books would most likely be Frank Sinatra. I'm not sure I could name a really good pop singer since then...
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Postby The Macabees » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:40 am

Um, they appealed to different generations of people?
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Postby The_pantless_hero » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:41 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:Ya know, the king of Pop in my books would most likely be Frank Sinatra. I'm not sure I could name a really good pop singer since then...

Again, different genre. You're doing horribly at this.
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Postby Parthenon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:43 am

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Postby Sdaeriji » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:46 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Ya know, the king of Pop in my books would most likely be Frank Sinatra. I'm not sure I could name a really good pop singer since then...

Again, different genre. You're doing horribly at this.


What genre is Frank Sinatra, exactly?
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:48 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
The_pantless_hero wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Ya know, the king of Pop in my books would most likely be Frank Sinatra. I'm not sure I could name a really good pop singer since then...

Again, different genre. You're doing horribly at this.


What genre is Frank Sinatra, exactly?


Pop, along with Elvis and Dylan. Certainly not Classical or folk.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:50 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:What genre is Frank Sinatra, exactly?


Pop, along with Elvis and Dylan. Certainly not Classical or folk.


I was asking him on purpose cause he said Frank isn't pop. I'm curious to hear how else he could be classified.
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Postby The Macabees » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:51 am

The_pantless_hero wrote:Again, different genre. You're doing horribly at this.


True story, Tom Petty was considered pop.
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Postby Colonic Immigration » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:53 am

No, cos they suck and had fuck all on influence on me.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:53 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
The_pantless_hero wrote:
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Ya know, the king of Pop in my books would most likely be Frank Sinatra. I'm not sure I could name a really good pop singer since then...

Again, different genre. You're doing horribly at this.


What genre is Frank Sinatra, exactly?

In the record store we put him in 'vocals', while he didn't improvise himself he sang with a lot of jazz bands like the Basie Orchestra at the Sands and many of the songs he sung either were or had become jazz standards. While for a while his was the 'popular' music of the time I would have to say that it would fall under the wider umbrella of jazz than it would what we consider 'pop' music as we've come to know it in the 'rock' era.
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