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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:31 pm

Torrocca wrote:
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Why is it wrong that Antifa be doxed?


I dunno, why is it wrong that somebody got doxxed one day after getting their spine broken by somebody else?


Reap what you sow. :]
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:31 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:


Why is it wrong that Antifa be doxed?

It isn't even "doxxing". It's pretty basic journalism.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:32 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why is it wrong that Antifa be doxed?


I dunno, why is it wrong that somebody got doxxed one day after getting their spine broken by somebody else?


It's not, at least not if said person is also part of a group that regularly tries to doxx its opposition as a means of making their life worse.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:33 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:>shitting out the same Twitter link from the same Antifa goon for the second time
Yeah, no, these types always lie, be it explicitly or by omission.
I'll look into it myself and see what I find.


TwiTtEr LiNk BaD

Ah, see, there was more context (which, despite linking the tweet, you most definitely ignored). She's a political activist who attempted sabotage last year, and as she's been in media before, her identity being known makes sense, as it provides further context to the altercation that lead to her injury.

She’s a local activist who has been in media for violently sabotaging an event on PSU campus. Her identity is relevant to the story.


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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why is it wrong that Antifa be doxed?

It isn't even "doxxing". It's pretty basic journalism.

Pretty much. It's not like she was only known as "Bashthefash1944-chan" before he revealed her name. She's been in the news before. I fail to see a real problem here, just arbitrary selective outrage.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:34 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Pyta wrote:couple more things

1) anyone else think it's weird that the video of Ngo getting hit starts pretty much the moment it happens, that we don't see what happens before he gets jumped.

2) The concrete milkshake is never gonna stop being funny to me because it shows how wildly insipid the alt-right, fascists, etc. all are. Soft handed babies so used to outsourcing their violence to cops and school shooters that they're no longer capable of conceiving of what riot warfare would look like. There's like a million other lies they could tell that aren't so on the face stupid, that could have been remotely plausible, that could have been harder to disprove, but they went with "quick drying cement! In the milkshakes!" It's honestly pathetic.


The concrete thing's doubly hilarious when you take into account that concrete physically cannot dry and solidify when exposed to sugar. A milkshake - hopefully unsurprisingly to anyone here - is filled to hell and back with sugar.

If it was a real milkshake, and not just a cup with cement inside.

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why is it wrong that Antifa be doxed?

It isn't even "doxxing". It's pretty basic journalism.

This ^^

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:34 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I dunno, why is it wrong that somebody got doxxed one day after getting their spine broken by somebody else?


It's not, at least not if said person is also part of a group that regularly tries to doxx its opposition as a means of making their life worse.


Sure it is, especially if that person's just been physically impaired and hospitalized with a broken spine.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:37 pm

Torrocca wrote:
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It's not, at least not if said person is also part of a group that regularly tries to doxx its opposition as a means of making their life worse.


Sure it is, especially if that person's just been physically impaired and hospitalized with a broken spine.

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:38 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why is it wrong that Antifa be doxed?

It isn't even "doxxing". It's pretty basic journalism.


According to the Oregon Department of Justice, you're wrong on account of crime victims automatically having the right to "receive reasonable protection from the offender", which undoubtedly includes keeping the victim's name from being put out onto public record.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:40 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Sure it is, especially if that person's just been physically impaired and hospitalized with a broken spine.

"Assault victims aren't valid targets for being named publicly but we can attack their character as much as we fucking want lmao"
-Torrocca, 2019


TIL'd that protecting a victim of crime from further acts from the perpetrator or their associates = public ridicule of a person's bad character

10/10
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:41 pm

Pyta wrote:couple more things

1) anyone else think it's weird that the video of Ngo getting hit starts pretty much the moment it happens, that we don't see what happens before he gets jumped.

Anyone else think it's weird that the video of those evil high school kids mocking that poor, defenseless Native American starts pretty much the moment it happens, that we don't the the Black Israelites harass them and DJ Chief Wahoo initiate the confrontation?
2) The concrete milkshake is never gonna stop being funny to me because it shows how wildly insipid the alt-right, fascists, etc. all are. Soft handed babies so used to outsourcing their violence to cops and school shooters that they're no longer capable of conceiving of what riot warfare would look like. There's like a million other lies they could tell that aren't so on the face stupid, that could have been remotely plausible, that could have been harder to disprove, but they went with "quick drying cement! In the milkshakes!" It's honestly pathetic.

Not as pathetic as "these racist deplorables were hanging around Chicago in the middle of the freezing cold night waiting to put a noose around my neck and pour liquid bleach that was not frozen in spite of the temperature over me, but I heroically managed to fight them off before going home with the noose still around my neck, and the whole time I never lost my Subway sandwich!".
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:41 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Scomagia wrote:It isn't even "doxxing". It's pretty basic journalism.


According to the Oregon Department of Justice, you're wrong on account of crime victims automatically having the right to "receive reasonable protection from the offender", which undoubtedly includes keeping the victim's name from being put out onto public record.

So he might be in violation of Oregon law. That doesn't mean that what he did isn't journalism.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:42 pm

Scomagia wrote:
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According to the Oregon Department of Justice, you're wrong on account of crime victims automatically having the right to "receive reasonable protection from the offender", which undoubtedly includes keeping the victim's name from being put out onto public record.

So he might be in violation of Oregon law. That doesn't mean that what he did isn't journalism.


That's a damn well shitty standard of "journalism" you're postulating, tbqh.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:44 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:"Assault victims aren't valid targets for being named publicly but we can attack their character as much as we fucking want lmao"
-Torrocca, 2019


TIL'd that protecting a victim of crime from further acts from the perpetrator or their associates = public ridicule of a person's bad character

10/10

So, assault victims are valid targets for things generally considered poor form as long as you disagree with them politically?
Oh, so very typical.

Publicly ridiculing someone for """"bad character"""" when, in reality, it's a simple ideological dispute leading to a rabid exaggeration of past actions that were, at worst, mildly bad, is usually regarded as gross, bogus, and unnecessary. Especially one day after an assault.
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Postby Pyta » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:45 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If it was a real milkshake, and not just a cup with cement inside.


If that were the case, why did the splatter on the backpack ngo posted look nothing like cement? Why has there been no forthcoming evidence of the cement attacks? Why is there plenty of footage of protestors drinking said milkshakes if they are entirely cement?

Again, you really should just drop the cement thing, it's embarassing and it doesn't end well for you

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:45 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
According to the Oregon Department of Justice, you're wrong on account of crime victims automatically having the right to "receive reasonable protection from the offender", which undoubtedly includes keeping the victim's name from being put out onto public record.

So he might be in violation of Oregon law. That doesn't mean that what he did isn't journalism.

Julian Assange broke the law for "journalism", and the left wanted to thrown him a ticker-tape parade...
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:46 pm

Pyta wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If it was a real milkshake, and not just a cup with cement inside.


If that were the case, why did the splatter on the backpack ngo posted look nothing like cement? Why has there been no forthcoming evidence of the cement attacks? Why is there plenty of footage of protestors drinking said milkshakes if they are entirely cement?

Again, you really should just drop the cement thing, it's embarassing and it doesn't end well for you

So you're a doctor and an expert on building materials?
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:46 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Scomagia wrote:So he might be in violation of Oregon law. That doesn't mean that what he did isn't journalism.


That's a damn well shitty standard of "journalism" you're postulating, tbqh.

Not really. It was an event of note and he covered relevant details. In any case, the fact that he hasn't been charged makes me skeptical that he even broke the law.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:48 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
TIL'd that protecting a victim of crime from further acts from the perpetrator or their associates = public ridicule of a person's bad character

10/10

So, assault victims are valid targets for things generally considered poor form as long as you disagree with them politically?
Oh, so very typical.


Have you considered the possibility that, perhaps, maybe, just maybe, whether or not somebody is a victim of battery or not doesn't exclude them from being a shitty human being?

But nah it's totally just because I disagree with the dude that I'm saying it's okay to criticize a public figure's horrible character lmao, let's just totally ignore the multiple posts I made defending him on account of the fact that he didn't deserve to be batteried lol
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:50 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:So, assault victims are valid targets for things generally considered poor form as long as you disagree with them politically?
Oh, so very typical.


Have you considered the possibility that, perhaps, maybe, just maybe, whether or not somebody is a victim of battery or not doesn't exclude them from being a shitty human being?

And it shouldn't exclude them from having their past actions connected to them via their name, but you shouldn't prance around reveling in how """"shitty"""" they are.
It's particularly in poor taste.

But nah it's totally just because I disagree with the dude that I'm saying it's okay to criticize a public figure's horrible character lmao, let's just totally ignore the multiple posts I made defending him on account of the fact that he didn't deserve to be batteried lol

Multiple? Wasn't it, like... twice? And both times were really weak and insincere in their delivery? Yeah...
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:51 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
That's a damn well shitty standard of "journalism" you're postulating, tbqh.

Not really. It was an event of note and he covered relevant details. In any case, the fact that he hasn't been charged makes me skeptical that he even broke the law.


Yes really, though, because it's A) in direct violation of a law expressly set up to protect the victims of a crime from further victimization and B) because it's literally a shit move, in general, to publicly out somebody who was the victim of a crime the day after they became a victim, while they were hospitalized with a broken spine, in a politically-charged environment that has people who'd die for an opportunity like this.

Or maybe his bullshit hasn't come to the state AG's attention yet?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:51 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Why is it wrong that Antifa be doxed?


I dunno, why is it wrong that somebody got doxxed one day after getting their spine broken by somebody else?

It's like Ngo is implying "FINISH HER!!"
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:52 pm

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Torrocca wrote:
I dunno, why is it wrong that somebody got doxxed one day after getting their spine broken by somebody else?

It's like Ngo is implying "FINISH HER!!"

Nah, not really lmao but go enjoy yourself I guess?
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:53 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Have you considered the possibility that, perhaps, maybe, just maybe, whether or not somebody is a victim of battery or not doesn't exclude them from being a shitty human being?

And it shouldn't exclude them from having their past actions connected to them via their name, but you shouldn't prance around reveling in how """"shitty"""" they are.
It's particularly in poor taste.


Nah, it's not really in poor taste at all to point out that a shitty person's a shitty person.

But nah it's totally just because I disagree with the dude that I'm saying it's okay to criticize a public figure's horrible character lmao, let's just totally ignore the multiple posts I made defending him on account of the fact that he didn't deserve to be batteried lol

Multiple? Wasn't it, like... twice? And both times were really weak and insincere in their delivery? Yeah...


Nah, not really.

But, please, let's totally act like I definitely support random street violence. :roll:
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:53 pm

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To avoid being harrassed by Nazis.


While harassing anyone they misidentify as nazis. :rofl:

People, you can't write this shit.

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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:54 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:And it shouldn't exclude them from having their past actions connected to them via their name, but you shouldn't prance around reveling in how """"shitty"""" they are.
It's particularly in poor taste.


Nah, it's not really in poor taste at all to point out that a shitty person's a shitty person.

But you do agree that past actions should be connected to one's name, yes? Even if your opinion on poor taste is shitty, you should agree there, correct?

Multiple? Wasn't it, like... twice? And both times were really weak and insincere in their delivery? Yeah...


Nah, not really.

But, please, let's totally act like I definitely support random street violence. :roll:

If you don't, you'd be a damn first for your ideology.
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