What's your vision of Dystopia and Utopia respectively?

[Cetacea]

Dystopia = Flint, Michigan

Utopia - I was about 12 when I first saw Zardoz, once I got over the boobies, I learnt to fear Utopia as much as Dystopia,
But post-scarcity, intellectual freedom and willing boobies was a great start

[Rojava Free State]

Utopia: fantasy

Dystopia: reality

[-Ocelot-]

It's the other way around.

The worst dystopia is one where freedom is unlimited in all of it's forms and everyone lives in constant fear and uncertainty, in a state of chaos that never ends. People can do as they please, corporations can play with people's lives freely and everything is permitted. Everyone's out for themselves. The worst dystopia imaginable is much like our current global free market economy but fully realized, with all states dismantled and resistance from the people completely eliminated.

No authoritarian government, no matter how tyrannical, could ever be as horrible to the human species as the chaos the free market society brings with it. For one, the government would have to try to be evil, while a free market generates and maximizes misery automatically.

A perfect utopia would be any kind of post-scarcity society.

[Kowani]

It's the other way around.

The worst dystopia is one where freedom is unlimited in all of it's forms and everyone lives in constant fear and uncertainty, in a state of chaos that never ends. People can do as they please, corporations can play with people's lives freely and everything is permitted. Everyone's out for themselves. The worst dystopia imaginable is much like our current global free market economy but fully realized, with all states dismantled and resistance from the people completely eliminated.

No authoritarian government, no matter how tyrannical, could ever be as horrible to the human species as the chaos the free market society brings with it. For one, the government would have to try to be evil, while a free market generates and maximizes misery automatically.

A perfect utopia would be any kind of post-scarcity society.

You, I like.

[Vetalia]

Dystopia: Subservience to an omnipresent surveillance state with no ability to opt out or leave the "system".

Utopia: A place where everyone is free to pursue their own goals, businesses, ideas and interests free from the state's interference outside of a highly limited series of powers to prevent serious abuses against people and property.

[Nakena]

It's the other way around.

The worst dystopia is one where freedom is unlimited in all of it's forms and everyone lives in constant fear and uncertainty, in a state of chaos that never ends. People can do as they please, corporations can play with people's lives freely and everything is permitted. Everyone's out for themselves. The worst dystopia imaginable is much like our current global free market economy but fully realized, with all states dismantled and resistance from the people completely eliminated.

No authoritarian government, no matter how tyrannical, could ever be as horrible to the human species as the chaos the free market society brings with it. For one, the government would have to try to be evil, while a free market generates and maximizes misery automatically.

You may enjoy Thomas Hobbes.

[Vetalia]

It's the other way around.

The worst dystopia is one where freedom is unlimited in all of it's forms and everyone lives in constant fear and uncertainty, in a state of chaos that never ends. People can do as they please, corporations can play with people's lives freely and everything is permitted. Everyone's out for themselves. The worst dystopia imaginable is much like our current global free market economy but fully realized, with all states dismantled and resistance from the people completely eliminated.

No authoritarian government, no matter how tyrannical, could ever be as horrible to the human species as the chaos the free market society brings with it. For one, the government would have to try to be evil, while a free market generates and maximizes misery automatically.

A perfect utopia would be any kind of post-scarcity society.

The concept of a corporation insulated from personal liability from its owners is actually a creation of the state.

And seriously, no authoritarian government could be as horrible as the free market society? Do you have any knowledge of the past 100-odd years of history!?

[Nakena]

It's the other way around.

The worst dystopia is one where freedom is unlimited in all of it's forms and everyone lives in constant fear and uncertainty, in a state of chaos that never ends. People can do as they please, corporations can play with people's lives freely and everything is permitted. Everyone's out for themselves. The worst dystopia imaginable is much like our current global free market economy but fully realized, with all states dismantled and resistance from the people completely eliminated.

No authoritarian government, no matter how tyrannical, could ever be as horrible to the human species as the chaos the free market society brings with it. For one, the government would have to try to be evil, while a free market generates and maximizes misery automatically.

A perfect utopia would be any kind of post-scarcity society.

The concept of a corporation insulated from personal liability from its owners is actually a creation of the state.

And seriously, no authoritarian government could be as horrible as the free market society? Do you have any knowledge of the past 100-odd years of history!?

Nah it was just another form of the natural state. Essentially the same way as Thomas Hobbes has described it.

In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently no culture of the earth, no navigation nor the use of commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth, no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Leviathan

[The Huskar Social Union]

Dystopia: Themuns

Utopia: Ussuns

[Vetalia]

Nah it was just another form of the natural state. Essentially the same way as Thomas Hobbes has described it.

In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently no culture of the earth, no navigation nor the use of commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth, no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Leviathan

I disagree, it sounded more like a criticism of a free-market society with laws, not some kind of total anarchy.

[Loben The 2nd]

Utopia: dystopia


Dystopia: utopia

[Petrolheadia]

I haven't really thought of dystopia. Probably some sort of land where there is total scarcity of everything, and the area is war-torn between two warring dictatorships.

Utopia? A place where you can live at an OK level without a steady job, and you can get far higher if you decide to work hard. The economy is efficient, not restrained by ecological issues and rapidly growing, and supplies people with any sort of non-endangering product they might want. Both vibrant cities and calm countryside exist, with great connection between each other. Politically, it's libertarian, with little government influence into how people live their lives.

As for my place in it, I keep building up my net worth in a big carmaker's offices, establishing some social ties I can rely on among my coworkers.

[Petrolheadia]

It's the other way around.

The worst dystopia is one where freedom is unlimited in all of it's forms and everyone lives in constant fear and uncertainty, in a state of chaos that never ends. People can do as they please, corporations can play with people's lives freely and everything is permitted. Everyone's out for themselves. The worst dystopia imaginable is much like our current global free market economy but fully realized, with all states dismantled and resistance from the people completely eliminated.

No authoritarian government, no matter how tyrannical, could ever be as horrible to the human species as the chaos the free market society brings with it. For one, the government would have to try to be evil, while a free market generates and maximizes misery automatically.

Wait, what? Could you explain your position's basis?

[Tokora]

My dystopia is a totalitarian state controlled by corporate interests with a personality cult that functions as a theocracy.

My utopia is a religious (as in freedom of religion, not one killing off the rest) eco-communist society with a functioning democracy.

[Solarist VZ]

Your utopia is my dystopia. The dictionary on my brain defines a Dystopia as the attempt of trying to create the perfect society that fails terribly and creates an absolute nightmare, the boot in the brain hurts more than the boot on your chest.

Btw, no matter how mighty the A.Is are, post-scarcity ain't happening anytime soon (maaaybe when we are in space with so many resources that we could shit out anything we want carelessly).

[Tornado Queendom]

Dystopia: An SJW Islamo-Communist Dictatorship where merely "DENYING" CLIMATE CHANGE will lead to getting BEHEADED for "hate speech", and Pop Music is everywhere with all Metal destroyed. Also, it's in a permanent drought because of the sunshine caused by weather modification. Oh, and the House of Saud is in charge. Normal crimes decrease, but thought crimes increase exponentially. WWE goes TV-G, and NXT becomes just as terrible as the Main Roster. One more thing: all of the porn (if it even exists) is NORMIE PORN!

Utopia: An Ancap society where anything can happen, and free speech is everywhere. Metallica is the most listened to band on the planet, and SJWs and Pop Music have been eradicated by climate change. The "Storm Girls" of the YTrojanverse are real, and it's always stormy. However, storms are seen as "Good Weather" and sunshine as "bad weather" due to changes throughout the years. Islam is a fringe religion only practiced by a thousand at most, and everyone is free to do what they want. Plus, Hentai is everywhere. Resources are taken from other planets, and corporations fight out their differences in the Ring. Oh, and the WWE is in a second Attitude Era.

[Mettaton-EX]

dystopia: current world but more so

utopia: pseudoprimitivist anarchist communes

[The Emerald Legion]

Utopia

Dystopia

[Big Jim P]

Dystopia: any place or condition where the self, the individual is subsumed by or subservient to, the hive.

Utopia: The exact opposite.

[Arkhane]

My vision of a utopia would be, surprisingly this world where humans valiantly struggle against itself and one another, where I have no certainty of what tomorrow will bring, where joy, suffering, love, hate and the entire spectrum of life flux in unequal measures. Where the whimsical hand of fate and chance is nearly impossible to discern from our own individual actions. Where your life can be long or short, with comfort being hard to come by.

As a person living in a third-world country, suffering financial problems, full of anxiety, doubts and suffering from an illness. I sometimes imagine myself living a dream life where I am rich, with no problems, no pain and getting to have whatever I want. But I've seen those kinds of people in T.V and in the news, but they don't seem happy or satisfied at all, in fact, they seem to have dulled out and lost interest in what life has to offer.

I don't know how to say this, but the reason luxury food taste great is because I rarely eat them. I find playing videogames fun because I am only allowed a limited time to enjoy them.

Scarcity of comfort and fulfillment is what makes it so great. And a dystopia for me would be a world where there is nothing to do, no struggles or challenge and you just exist, comfort and pleasure everyday until you become empty and no longer find satisfaction in anything.

[EastKekistan]

Utopia: Cupertino, CA, Singapore, Japan, West Germany, New England in the 1950s, Israel, South Korea

Dystopia: Detroit, Haiti, Kinshasa, Port Moresby, etc

[Thermodolia]

I'll start off:

My vision of a dystopia assimilates more to a orwellian kind of society, where all freedoms are supressed, ignorance is wide and there is rampant inequality. Albeit all of these factors being real, the government lies about them and convince citizens they're on a better condition than the other nations in the world.


My vision of utopia is a post-scarcity society where no actual money exists, people can pursue their dreams instead of working on jobs they are not satisfied to. Freedom is abundant and a steemed society value. Taboos are inexistent and anyone may do anything as long they aren't harming others. Honesty is rooted within the culture and people 99% of the times tell the truth.


Now, whats your vision of dystopia and utopia?

Your utopia sounds like my dystopia

[Aeritai]

My vision of a Dystopia: Everyone fighting over the smallest things, people filled with hate and sadness, and no positivity.

My vision of a Utopia: Everyone is happy and everybody has a positive mindset there is no hate nor sadness only positivity around the world. Everyone is equally treated with love no matter their religion, skin color, and gender. Everyone around the world would be helping each other out and always care for each other.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Utopia: Good order
Dystopia: Lawlessness

[Tillania]

Dystopia: Jennifer Government

Utopia: Iain M. Banks' Culture