Charlottesville attacker gets life sentence

[Rojava Free State]

Say it with me now: "Legal Slavery." Yeah, the more people get sent to prison, the more cheap and backbreaking labor they get to do for basically free, and then when they get out, you can just throw them back into society, have them commit another crime due to lack of support, and then send them back to prison where they get to do more work.

Ain't it beautiful?

Its scary how no one realizes it simply incentivizes the state to make more and more things illegal to satisfy the PIC's demand for slave labor.

Corporations: "dang even cheap labor is too much for us to pay for. It's too bad we can't just own slaves." re-reads 13th amendment "ooh"

[New haven america]

People realize, they're just not doing anything about it because they're criminals, so why should they care. Isn't the apathy and lack of respect towards human life in America and truly great thing?

I guess people will only get upset when they realize that white people doing normal white people things is illegal.

If you're a poor white person it already is.

Socioeconomic discrimination is currently a much more powerful force than racism is, but it's just that those who are on top of the socioeconomic ladder would rather have those that are below them constantly fighting and separating themselves so that they can't join together collectively and demand equal treatment. It's a simple game of divide and conquer, it's just that most people either don't realize it or choose to ignore it.

[New haven america]

Its scary how no one realizes it simply incentivizes the state to make more and more things illegal to satisfy the PIC's demand for slave labor.

Corporations: "dang even cheap labor is too much for us to pay for. It's too bad we can't just own slaves." re-reads 13th amendment "ooh"

Technically US prisons are breaking the 8th Amendment, it's just that no one wants to do anything about it.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Sometimes it does. It does not work with psychopaths.

Nonsense. There are vast numbers of non-offending psychopaths around. See, for example, most successful politicans and CEOs.

Well the number of Psychopathic CEOs is more like 21%, so they are a sizeable chunk, but not a majority.

With that being said, you are referring to "successful psychopaths," who are not inclined to commit crimes. I am talking about Psychopathic criminals.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I'll cite something when I'm not on my phone, but it is because psychopathy is genetic.

That doesn't mean that education can't work. With a psychopath you teach them about self interest. Prison is bad so don't commit crimes kinda thing.

Maybe, but either way, don't use traditional rehabilitative methods. It makes things worse.

Treatment not only seems not to work, there is evidence that some kinds of treatment make matters worse. In a famous 1991 study of incarcerated psychopaths about to be released from a therapeutic community, those who received group therapy actually had a higher violent recidivism rate than those who were not treated at all.155 One explanation is that being exposed to the frailties of normal people in group therapeutic settings gives psychopaths a stock of information that makes them better at manipulating those normal people. As one psychopath put it, “These programs are like a finishing school. They teach you how to put the squeeze on people.”156 Group therapy is also, of course, an endless source of excuses—my parents didn’t love me, I was abused, my wife left me, I am numb and empty inside, I am useless—none of which the psychopath actually feels but all of which he can use to his tactical advantage at the right moments, especially when trying to manipulate mental health professionals.

[Loben The 2nd]

People realize, they're just not doing anything about it because they're criminals, so why should they care. Isn't the apathy and lack of respect towards human life in America and truly great thing?

I guess people will only get upset when they realize that white people doing normal white people things is illegal.

Still waiting on evidence on me being a nazi, gren.

And are you ever going to explain to me what frenworld is?

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I guess people will only get upset when they realize that white people doing normal white people things is illegal.

Still waiting on evidence on me being a nazi, gren.

And are you ever going to explain to me what frenworld is?

Frenworld was a neo-Nazi SubReddit that entailed posting variants of pepe the frog alongside childlike speech. It was a meme/shitposting SubReddit.

[Loben The 2nd]

Still waiting on evidence on me being a nazi, gren.

And are you ever going to explain to me what frenworld is?

Frenworld was a neo-Nazi SubReddit that entailed posting variants of pepe the frog alongside childlike speech. It was a meme/shitposting SubReddit.

A shitposting subreddit?

Call the cops, the putsch is on!

[Nakena]

Still waiting on evidence on me being a nazi, gren.

And are you ever going to explain to me what frenworld is?

Frenworld was a neo-Nazi SubReddit that entailed posting variants of pepe the frog alongside childlike speech. It was a meme/shitposting SubReddit.

It got nuked and nothing of value got lost. However the Clown World Honkler managed to escape its original confinement prior to its destruction and has now, freed from the plebbitors and frens shakles, developed a life of its own, spreading and multiplying across the internet.

[Loben The 2nd]

Frenworld was a neo-Nazi SubReddit that entailed posting variants of pepe the frog alongside childlike speech. It was a meme/shitposting SubReddit.

It got nuked and nothing of value got lost. However the Clown World Honkler managed to escape its original confinement prior to its destruction and has now, freed from the plebbitors and frens shakles, developed a life of its own, spreading and multiplying across the internet.

It wasn’t preached by the crowd nor taught by the state no man spoke it aloud as the honkler began to hate. Honk honk!

[New haven america]

Frenworld was a neo-Nazi SubReddit that entailed posting variants of pepe the frog alongside childlike speech. It was a meme/shitposting SubReddit.

A shitposting subreddit?

Call the cops, the putsch is on!

Joking about fringe or extreme ideas is just a way to normalize those extreme ideas and behaviors, so that when those who actually believe those ideas become more ambitious with said ideas then the public will be more willing to follow along.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

It got nuked and nothing of value got lost. However the Clown World Honkler managed to escape its original confinement prior to its destruction and has now, freed from the plebbitors and frens shakles, developed a life of its own, spreading and multiplying across the internet.

It wasn’t preached by the crowd nor taught by the state no man spoke it aloud as the honkler began to hate. Honk honk!

Honkler is alt-right propaganda. I'm assuming that is why you were labeled a Nazi, and if you actually are an alt-righter, it is an accurate label.

It got nuked and nothing of value got lost.

Agreed.

A shitposting subreddit?

Call the cops, the putsch is on!

Joking about fringe or extreme ideas is just a way to normalize those extreme ideas and behaviors, so that when those who actually believe those ideas become more ambitious with said ideas then the public will be more willing to follow along.

I doubt more people will become Nazis if I joke about how stupid the doctrine is, or a teen is just being "edgy." Frenworld was not a joke though, it contained real Nazis.

[Pyta]

It got nuked and nothing of value got lost. However the Clown World Honkler managed to escape its original confinement prior to its destruction and has now, freed from the plebbitors and frens shakles, developed a life of its own, spreading and multiplying across the internet.

It wasn’t preached by the crowd nor taught by the state no man spoke it aloud as the honkler began to hate. Honk honk!

jesus y'all are sad

[Rojava Free State]

It got nuked and nothing of value got lost. However the Clown World Honkler managed to escape its original confinement prior to its destruction and has now, freed from the plebbitors and frens shakles, developed a life of its own, spreading and multiplying across the internet.

It wasn’t preached by the crowd nor taught by the state no man spoke it aloud as the honkler began to hate. Honk honk!

Ima be honest with everyone and keep it 100, whether the honkler meme originated with nazis or not, I find it downright hilarious

[Scomagia]

Say it with me now: "Legal Slavery." Yeah, the more people get sent to prison, the more cheap and backbreaking labor they get to do for basically free, and then when they get out, you can just throw them back into society, have them commit another crime due to lack of support, and then send them back to prison where they get to do more work.

Ain't it beautiful?

Its scary how no one realizes it simply incentivizes the state to make more and more things illegal to satisfy the PIC's demand for slave labor.

The labor isn't the problem. It's voluntary, iirc. The problem is paying inmates a sickeningly low wage.

[Nakena]

It wasn’t preached by the crowd nor taught by the state no man spoke it aloud as the honkler began to hate. Honk honk!

Honkler is alt-right propaganda. I'm assuming that is why you were labeled a Nazi, and if you actually are an alt-righter, it is an accurate label.

It got nuked and nothing of value got lost.

Agreed.

Joking about fringe or extreme ideas is just a way to normalize those extreme ideas and behaviors, so that when those who actually believe those ideas become more ambitious with said ideas then the public will be more willing to follow along.

I doubt more people will become Nazis if I joke about how stupid the doctrine is, or a teen is just being "edgy." Frenworld was not a joke though, it contained real Nazis.

Honkler has transcended beyond alt-right propaganda tier. Hes now in the wild, and used as meme within a broader scope.

[San Lumen]

The death penalty doesn't have to be expensive, if we take away people's right to an attorney. Lets shift the Overton window so that we can consider bringing in a Napoleonic system. If you're not guilty, chances are you should be able to prove that yourself.

Your against Gideon vs. Wainright?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_v._Wainwright

Why shouldn't someone be entitled to an attorney in court? Not everyone is a expert in the law.

your ideology got firmly rejected last year in state elections and in Congress. We elected a congress that looks like America and elected state legislatures and executive branches that look their their states including in mine of New York.

Fields deserves the sentence he got and the fact that you try and justify what he did by blaming the right to protests is beyond appalling. Are there any other rights your against?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Why are you against life imprisonment?

It probably (I mean, they can answer for themselves) has to do with what you think incarceration is for. If it's simply punishment or justice it's sort of problematic. Punishment or the fear of getting caught doesn't factor in as clearly in preventing crime, if we're just punishing people to make ourselves feel better than there's the question of how valuable that is as a society. If you adopt the Norwegian model, where life sentences aren't a thing and the most you can get is 25 years or something like that which can be extended at the end if its determined that the person is still a threat but during that time the prisoner is rehabilitated rather than simply punished. This means that they're given reasonable living conditions and a chance to improve and interact.

Love it when someone answers questions for me very well so I don't have to.

Yes, basicly this.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

The death penalty doesn't have to be expensive, if we take away people's right to an attorney. Lets shift the Overton window so that we can consider bringing in a Napoleonic system. If you're not guilty, chances are you should be able to prove that yourself.

One of the worst ideas posted on this site.

[Gormwood]

The death penalty doesn't have to be expensive, if we take away people's right to an attorney. Lets shift the Overton window so that we can consider bringing in a Napoleonic system. If you're not guilty, chances are you should be able to prove that yourself.

One of the worst ideas posted on this site.

And a likely sign that Saiwania doesn't think he'd ever end up on the bad side of it.

[San Lumen]

One of the worst ideas posted on this site.

And a likely sign that Saiwania doesn't think he'd ever end up on the bad side of it.

Being against a right to attorney is probably one of the craziest things I’ve ever heard

[Greater vakolicci haven]

One of the worst ideas posted on this site.

And a likely sign that Saiwania doesn't think he'd ever end up on the bad side of it.

No one does, that's the problem.

[Gormwood]

And a likely sign that Saiwania doesn't think he'd ever end up on the bad side of it.

No one does, that's the problem.

Very easy to propose batshit ideas when you assume they'll never blow back on you.

[Rostavykhan]

The death penalty doesn't have to be expensive, if we take away people's right to an attorney. Lets shift the Overton window so that we can consider bringing in a Napoleonic system. If you're not guilty, chances are you should be able to prove that yourself.

One of the worst ideas posted on this site.

Agreed.

We should adopt the Cardassian judicial system.

[Kowani]

The death penalty doesn't have to be expensive, if we take away people's right to an attorney. Lets shift the Overton window so that we can consider bringing in a Napoleonic system. If you're not guilty, chances are you should be able to prove that yourself.

One of the worst ideas posted on this site.

Mind you, that’s a hard bar to clear.