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Postby Gormwood » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:39 pm

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Cerinda wrote:Good, I think the fucker deserves the death penalty but I'll settle for this.


Death penalty is the easy way out for neo-nazi scum. In fact, many of them believe that dying for their ideology is heroic.

A real punishment for neo-nazis would be work camps. Make them give back to the society they tried to destabilize for entire decades. Nothing would drive them more crazy than being reminded that their work helps vulnerable minorities. Day in and day out. For many, many years.

It would also be ironic.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:40 pm

Saiwania wrote:The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.


So basically let's make it where you need the government's approval first, because if you need your protest pre approved, it takes away from freedom of speech
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Postby Anagonia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:40 pm

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Anagonia wrote:Shame, the guy who antagonized the incident with a loaded weapon didn't get arrested at all. Used as a political stunt in my opinion. Sad day for justice.

Waving a loaded weapon is worse than killing and injuring people?


I've reviewed both sides of the incident, and the specific individual responsible for waving the loaded rifle has been spotted at several more protests antagonizing incidents. This was just one example. The guy who drove the car was stated - if my memory serves right - to have been freaked out by the specific man with the weapon. I'm surprised the majority of this has been lost on people.

The driver killed an a young lady, but then again with how hostile both crowds were I am hesitant to claim innocence on either party. He did deserve a sentence, but I'm unsure if any indication for the purpose of the action was considered or he was simply used as a political object.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:41 pm

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Gormwood wrote:Waving a loaded weapon is worse than killing and injuring people?


I've reviewed both sides of the incident, and the specific individual responsible for waving the loaded rifle has been spotted at several more protests antagonizing incidents. This was just one example. The guy who drove the car was stated - if my memory serves right - to have been freaked out by the specific man with the weapon. I'm surprised the majority of this has been lost on people.

The driver killed an a young lady, but then again with how hostile both crowds were I am hesitant to claim innocence on either party. He did deserve a sentence, but I'm unsure if any indication for the purpose of the action was considered or he was simply used as a political object.


Being sent to prison for a terrorist attack isn't a political hit. It's how the justice system should work
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Postby Anagonia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:43 pm

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Anagonia wrote:
I've reviewed both sides of the incident, and the specific individual responsible for waving the loaded rifle has been spotted at several more protests antagonizing incidents. This was just one example. The guy who drove the car was stated - if my memory serves right - to have been freaked out by the specific man with the weapon. I'm surprised the majority of this has been lost on people.

The driver killed an a young lady, but then again with how hostile both crowds were I am hesitant to claim innocence on either party. He did deserve a sentence, but I'm unsure if any indication for the purpose of the action was considered or he was simply used as a political object.


Being sent to prison for a terrorist attack isn't a political hit. It's how the justice system should work


I'm pretty sure that should apply to Antifia if your line of thinking is going the way I think it is. Neo-Nazi's are still people, regardless of how deplorable the ideology is they support. To ignore the facts of the case on the basis of an opinion is somewhat lacking, in my view.

To be frank, I don't support the Nazi ideology, I'm just curious as to why the antifia guy got away with the gun waving.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:45 pm

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Rojava Free State wrote:
Being sent to prison for a terrorist attack isn't a political hit. It's how the justice system should work


I'm pretty sure that should apply to Antifia if your line of thinking is going the way I think it is. Neo-Nazi's are still people, regardless of how deplorable the ideology is they support. To ignore the facts of the case on the basis of an opinion is somewhat lacking, in my view.

To be frank, I don't support the Nazi ideology, I'm just curious as to why the antifia guy got away with the gun waving.

Because the media is currently infatuated with the idea of rich leftist white kids dressing up in all black like a regurgitated goth phase in high school being a general nuisance.
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Postby Pyta » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:45 pm

Anagonia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Waving a loaded weapon is worse than killing and injuring people?


I've reviewed both sides of the incident, and the specific individual responsible for waving the loaded rifle has been spotted at several more protests antagonizing incidents. This was just one example. The guy who drove the car was stated - if my memory serves right - to have been freaked out by the specific man with the weapon. I'm surprised the majority of this has been lost on people.

The driver killed an a young lady, but then again with how hostile both crowds were I am hesitant to claim innocence on either party. He did deserve a sentence, but I'm unsure if any indication for the purpose of the action was considered or he was simply used as a political object.



Is this a game of telephone you're getting from the other neonazis or do you actually know how disingenuous you're being here.

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Postby Anagonia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:46 pm

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Anagonia wrote:
I'm pretty sure that should apply to Antifia if your line of thinking is going the way I think it is. Neo-Nazi's are still people, regardless of how deplorable the ideology is they support. To ignore the facts of the case on the basis of an opinion is somewhat lacking, in my view.

To be frank, I don't support the Nazi ideology, I'm just curious as to why the antifia guy got away with the gun waving.

Because the media is currently infatuated with the idea of rich leftist white kids dressing up in all black like a regurgitated goth phase in high school being a general nuisance.


That is....one way to put it. I'll have to find the article I read on the incident. I believe the guy who drove the car got what he deserved (life being somewhat extreme imo) but I find it sad the antagonist didn't get a lick of time and got away scott free.
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Postby Anagonia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:47 pm

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Anagonia wrote:
I've reviewed both sides of the incident, and the specific individual responsible for waving the loaded rifle has been spotted at several more protests antagonizing incidents. This was just one example. The guy who drove the car was stated - if my memory serves right - to have been freaked out by the specific man with the weapon. I'm surprised the majority of this has been lost on people.

The driver killed an a young lady, but then again with how hostile both crowds were I am hesitant to claim innocence on either party. He did deserve a sentence, but I'm unsure if any indication for the purpose of the action was considered or he was simply used as a political object.



Is this a game of telephone you're getting from the other neonazis or do you actually know how disingenuous you're being here.


Pardon? I don't understand what you're implying.
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Postby Cerinda » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:47 pm

Anagonia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Being sent to prison for a terrorist attack isn't a political hit. It's how the justice system should work


I'm pretty sure that should apply to Antifia if your line of thinking is going the way I think it is. Neo-Nazi's are still people, regardless of how deplorable the ideology is they support. To ignore the facts of the case on the basis of an opinion is somewhat lacking, in my view.

To be frank, I don't support the Nazi ideology, I'm just curious as to why the antifia guy got away with the gun waving.

Because it's not illegal to carry a gun (if you have a permit) and it is illegal to run someone over and kill them, these two are not equivalent.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:48 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Good idea. We’ll start by banning the far right from gathering anywhere

Can we also ban leftist gatherings too?

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:48 pm

Well at least he will have plenty of other nazis to keep him company.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:48 pm

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Loben The 2nd wrote:Can we also ban leftist gatherings too?

Nyet Comrade!


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Postby Highever » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:50 pm

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Anagonia wrote:
I've reviewed both sides of the incident, and the specific individual responsible for waving the loaded rifle has been spotted at several more protests antagonizing incidents. This was just one example. The guy who drove the car was stated - if my memory serves right - to have been freaked out by the specific man with the weapon. I'm surprised the majority of this has been lost on people.

The driver killed an a young lady, but then again with how hostile both crowds were I am hesitant to claim innocence on either party. He did deserve a sentence, but I'm unsure if any indication for the purpose of the action was considered or he was simply used as a political object.



Is this a game of telephone you're getting from the other neonazis or do you actually know how disingenuous you're being here.

Let's not just call other people Nazis for pretty much no reason, yeah?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:50 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Well at least he will have plenty of other nazis to keep him company.

Tbh that’s probably his best chance of not getting gang raped by the other prisoners.

Because that’s inevitably what happens.
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Postby Pyta » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:50 pm

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Is this a game of telephone you're getting from the other neonazis or do you actually know how disingenuous you're being here.


Pardon? I don't understand what you're implying.


I mean [citation needed]

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Postby Gormwood » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:51 pm

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The Liberated Territories wrote:Well at least he will have plenty of other nazis to keep him company.

Tbh that’s probably his best chance of not getting gang raped by the other prisoners.

Because that’s inevitably what happens.

As if the neonazis won't make him squeal like a pig.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:51 pm

We should have just had him shot. We over-use life imprisonment.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.

That is a terrible idea.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:52 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Nyet Comrade!


Therm can you stick to one ideology for more then one week.

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Postby Anagonia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:53 pm

Pyta wrote:
Anagonia wrote:
Pardon? I don't understand what you're implying.


I mean [citation needed]


Oh, that clears that up. Thought you attempted to label me as a Nazi. I was quite miffed for a bit there, my apologies.

In what part requires clarification for you?
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:53 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:Tbh that’s probably his best chance of not getting gang raped by the other prisoners.

Because that’s inevitably what happens.

As if the neonazis won't make him squeal like a pig.


I mean if that’s what peaks your interest, Petra....I don’t judge
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:54 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Well at least he will have plenty of other nazis to keep him company.


The Aryan brotherhood is a gang devoted more to drug dealing and weapons trafficking more than their supposed ideology. An ideological foot soldier like field wouldn't fit in
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Postby -Ocelot- » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:55 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Well at least he will have plenty of other nazis to keep him company.

Tbh that’s probably his best chance of not getting gang raped by the other prisoners.

Because that’s inevitably what happens.


Fascism is based on perpetual structural violence and has a mindset of winner takes all and that only the strong deserves to thrive. He may finally be able to live in his ideal fascist society within the walls of a prison.

I also hope nothing like what you suggest may happen to him. That would very unfortunate, indeed.

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Postby Pacomia » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:56 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Saiwania wrote:The people he ran over, shouldn't have been in the street in my view. This could be avoided if the country does away with the concept of public protests all together. I'd propose that all forms of political agitation left or right, should take place indoors at pre-approved venues, with security handled by party paramilitaries.

That is a terrible idea.

Yeah, what the hell? What you're describing is a huge step towards authoritarianism. Also, for that logic to work, you would also have to ban outdoor markets, large community gatherings such as world's fairs or festivals, etc. That's definitely not the solution. Also, it's not like moving protests from outdoors to indoors would do anything anyways. Other potentially fatal things exist, too.
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