Raising the Dead

[Benuty]

We need to abandon our superstitions and taboos and do the rational thing - bury bodies where they will decompose and provide nutrients for the ecosystem, just as every other dead animal does. The problem isn't burial, the problem is coffins that never decompose.

The only reason we have the coffins (that last so damn long) is in part due to an industry which was built around the idea that hosting grandpas funeral in the home parlor, and then plopping him respectfully in the ground after 2-3 days was deemed "primitive". It used to be acceptable following death (in the states) to host the funeral inside the home, and then commence the burial. Things changed as people got more materially conscious (or vapid), and as a result, we have this little problem on our hands.

[Benuty]

Cremation is actually pretty wasteful resource wise. I mean there is a water-based method that literally annihilates everything to a fine bone paste similar to ashes, but its only for pets.

[Benuty]

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But in all seriousness, turn me into fertilizer and scatter me around a piece of nature people will visit. Like a park or something.

Legally you can have your body buried on private property, and turn it into a nature preserve. This will prevent development, and let your body decompose naturally feeding anything wanting a bite.

[Benuty]

Honestly graveyards are pretty useless and a bit of problem. The space we use and the bodies we bury there could all be used better.

When I die I want to be turned into fertilizer so I can actually have a positive impact on the world instead of needlessly taking up space.

I mean even our extinct ancestors buried their dead so they have a purpose. Used to be the earliest humans would bury their parents, and deceased below the house, and then bring the remains whenever it came time to move. Eventually, come the stone age we started to value the idea of a permanent resting place a bit more.

[Benuty]

1: No, cremation is Haraam
2: I want a janaazah and an Islamic burial

Cremation is also incredibly wasteful, and quite frankly there are better ways of disposing of a body that is less...stigmatized.

[Benuty]

A person that has been cremated can have their own headstone in the cemetery. My deceased relatives were all cremated, and they each got their own headstone in the cemetery...

The whole thread is about omitting cemeteries due to their taking of large pieces of land.

If they have their own headstones, it would still take up space.

I mean at the end of the day families need space to visit relatives that has an assigned connotation of "here be dead people". It can be done pretty efficiently and environmentally friendly if bodies were buried in a way that allowed immediate decomposition. Just stop filling people full of harmful preservative chemicals after death, and putting them in coffins that literally cause the remains to explode (not joking look it up).

[The New California Republic]

Cremation is actually pretty wasteful resource wise. I mean there is a water-based method that literally annihilates everything to a fine bone paste similar to ashes, but its only for pets.

Do you mean alkaline hydrolysis? It's used in 16 different states to dispose of human remains...

[Benuty]

Cremation is actually pretty wasteful resource wise. I mean there is a water-based method that literally annihilates everything to a fine bone paste similar to ashes, but its only for pets.

Do you mean alkaline hydrolysis? It's used in 16 different states...

I am not sure of the necessity of the ellipses. My point is that cremation isn't nearly efficient enough unless you are running holocaust level body disposal in the aftermath of a plague.

[Benuty]

To address the other part of your answer NCR I suppose the only reason I even know about the procedure is due to a morgue channel run out of California discussing methods of burials, and body disposal. It's partly how I learned about the nature preserve burials. At the time the video was released the person only had mentioned it being viable for pets so it probably has been a few years since said videos release, and things change.

[Benuty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWo2-LHwGMM

Video in question.

[Partybus]

A person that has been cremated can have their own headstone in the cemetery. My deceased relatives were all cremated, and they each got their own headstone in the cemetery...

The whole thread is about omitting cemeteries due to their taking of large pieces of land.

If they have their own headstones, it would still take up space.

Why not bury people on golf courses? Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak...plus, as more people become part of the turf, the grave stones on the fairways would create a great challenge for the golfers *nods vigorously*

[The New California Republic]

To address the other part of your answer NCR I suppose the only reason I even know about the procedure is due to a morgue channel run out of California discussing methods of burials, and body disposal. It's partly how I learned about the nature preserve burials. At the time the video was released the person only had mentioned it being viable for pets so it probably has been a few years since said videos release, and things change.

It was around 2010 onwards that it started to be used in several states.

[The New California Republic]

I am not sure of the necessity of the ellipses.

When I clicked "submit" on the post it seemed to remove that last part that I typed for some reason.

[Uttland]

The idea that we’re running out of land as a whole is ridiculous. Singapore is a small very urban country, so they do have to get creative when it comes to corpse disposal and rest, but this is not the case for other countries. Many have the space to properly allot one’s body with a dug grave or any religious practice millions times over. They might be wasteful, but I don’t see why we can’t just accept it and move on, considering how essential they are to many peoples’ mental/spiritual well-being. If one must get progressive with them, we could merge them with green-spaces and parks in order to provide something else to a community.

As for myself, the idea of being buried underground is horribly claustrophobic and cremation dissatisfies me. An above-ground mausoleum I find would be best. The tomb inside should ideally be able to be opened easily from the inside, in case of error or resurrection.

[Purpelia]

I am categorically against the desecration of burial sites for any and all reasons. Once you put someone into the ground that ground should belong to that corpse for perpetuity or until the universe collapses, which ever comes last.

[Fartsniffage]

I am categorically against the desecration of burial sites for any and all reasons. Once you put someone into the ground that ground should belong to that corpse for perpetuity or until the universe collapses, which ever comes last.

But then how would we get nice brown paint?

[Purpelia]

I am categorically against the desecration of burial sites for any and all reasons. Once you put someone into the ground that ground should belong to that corpse for perpetuity or until the universe collapses, which ever comes last.

But then how would we get nice brown paint?

P00p.

[Kowani]

I am categorically against the desecration of burial sites for any and all reasons. Once you put someone into the ground that ground should belong to that corpse for perpetuity or until the universe collapses, which ever comes last.

You heard him boys, gotta pack up Paris and Rome. Those catacombs were there first, after all.

[Gormwood]

At this rate you will be able to advertise Soylent Green as Eco Friendly.

[Xmara]

Luke Perry was buried in a biodegradable mushroom suit designed to break down human remains

I say we do that. Cremation doesn’t seem that sustainable.

[Bluelight-R006]

The whole thread is about omitting cemeteries due to their taking of large pieces of land.

If they have their own headstones, it would still take up space.

I mean at the end of the day families need space to visit relatives that has an assigned connotation of "here be dead people". It can be done pretty efficiently and environmentally friendly if bodies were buried in a way that allowed immediate decomposition. Just stop filling people full of harmful preservative chemicals after death, and putting them in coffins that literally cause the remains to explode (not joking look it up).

Oh no... not those chemicals. I don’t understand what’s the point of preserving bodies with toxic chemicals.

The whole thread is about omitting cemeteries due to their taking of large pieces of land.

If they have their own headstones, it would still take up space.

Why not bury people on golf courses? Kill two birds with one stone, so to speak...plus, as more people become part of the turf, the grave stones on the fairways would create a great challenge for the golfers *nods vigorously*

You’re a genius.

[Big Jim P]

In BattleTech, there is a Warrior from one of the clans, Joanna, who, when reminiscing about Earth, scoffs about how wasteful it was, covering so much space with graveyards.

Either use corpses as fertilizer, or cremate people and throw ‘em into the sea. But cemeteries need to be phased out.

Battletech fan here (original board game, not the video crap), married to a woman name Joanna.

[NERVUN]

The idea that we’re running out of land as a whole is ridiculous. Singapore is a small very urban country, so they do have to get creative when it comes to corpse disposal and rest, but this is not the case for other countries. Many have the space to properly allot one’s body with a dug grave or any religious practice millions times over. They might be wasteful, but I don’t see why we can’t just accept it and move on, considering how essential they are to many peoples’ mental/spiritual well-being. If one must get progressive with them, we could merge them with green-spaces and parks in order to provide something else to a community.

As for myself, the idea of being buried underground is horribly claustrophobic and cremation dissatisfies me. An above-ground mausoleum I find would be best. The tomb inside should ideally be able to be opened easily from the inside, in case of error or resurrection.

*psssssstttt* It's the same for other cities...

And some other countries (Looks at Japan).

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

Bury people in deserts.

Soylent green.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Luke Perry was buried in a biodegradable mushroom suit designed to break down human remains

What a fun guy.

It’s the only way to go when there is not much room.