Is communism behind radical Islam?

[East African Unitary State]

I see everyone asking if communism is behind radical Islam but no one is asking if radical Islam inspired communism

I think the real question behind that notion is how the fuck would Marx get inspired by "radical" Islam at that time period.

[Solarist VZ]

No.In reality the Soviets were (never permanent) allied with secular forces on the ME like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Ba'athists (to be fair, it's known that the Ba'athists would ally with almost anyone, i think even the Nazis if they still were around). Of course the devout will crash against the godless commies.

Blame Washington.

[The Federated Soviets of North America]

So let me explain. You might be thinking "Have you gone insane?

After reading the rest of your post, you certainly haven't convinced me otherwise.

[Vetalia]

I think the real question behind that notion is how the fuck would Marx get inspired by "radical" Islam at that time period.

And how he would come to the conclusion that an atheist state would be consistent with Islam...

[Washington Resistance Army]

No, Islam being an awful religion is.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I think the real question behind that notion is how the fuck would Marx get inspired by "radical" Islam at that time period.

And how he would come to the conclusion that an atheist state would be consistent with Islam...

He advocated for a state? I thought he taught that communism shouldn't have a state.

[Al Mumtahanah]

Khomenei was the Shia Pope, all had to obey him as infallible and sinless, it is fundamental to Twelver doctrine

That doesn't answer my question.

While suicide martyrdom did not win the Iran–Iraq War for Iran, it did spread to Lebanon, where it won victories for the Iraqi Islamic Da'wa party, Shia 'allies' of the Islamic Revolution there. The 1983 bombings against U.S. and French peacekeeping troops by Hizballah killed over 300 and drove the US and French from Lebanon. Another longer bombing campaign did likewise to the Israeli army. Khomeini is credited by some with inspiring these "suicide bombers".[77]

Suicide martyrdom was part and parcel the Shia practice of using their children to clear minefields during the Iran-Iraq war

[Nakena]

So let me explain. You might be thinking "Have you gone insane? Is this another topic that's gonna get locked?"
but notice how the Middle East became increasingly unstable in the Cold War? Also note the USSR spent a higher budget on foreign intervention? And they likely gave money to terrorists who still operate against the West right now?

If I'm taking it too far, I'll slow this down. Basically, the USSR and PRC have invested in all out secret and indirect warfare against NATO. This includes terrorism. Terrorism didn't happen much from Muslims before the commies set up puppet governments in Arab and African countries, and religion can rouse extremism. Using Islam as a recruiting method, the Soviets could get several terrorist groups started.

I believe this tactic was first used when the communists realized they were losing to General Reagan and freedom was near. Gorbachev expanded the budget so he could fund radicals who later started al quadi, ISIS, and the Taliban. But the socialists had been encouraging extremism before hand, creating Bathism and sympathetic states. Expoliting poverty, they dumped money on countries that were likely to host terror groups.

What is your opinion? Do you think this is real? Do the ghosts of the Soviet Union still haunt us?

No. Communism was probably one of the strongest political forces in world history during the 20th century but after the collapse of the USSR and even before lost much of its traction. It is not as popular as it used to be, back when there was in every country some huge communist movement. Now that isnt so much anymore. I'd call communism a secular religion. Sort of.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

That doesn't answer my question.

While suicide martyrdom did not win the Iran–Iraq War for Iran, it did spread to Lebanon, where it won victories for the Iraqi Islamic Da'wa party, Shia 'allies' of the Islamic Revolution there. The 1983 bombings against U.S. and French peacekeeping troops by Hizballah killed over 300 and drove the US and French from Lebanon. Another longer bombing campaign did likewise to the Israeli army. Khomeini is credited by some with inspiring these "suicide bombers".[77]

Ok, but did Khomeinei say that himself? Being credited with something doesn't necessarily mean one did it.

Suicide martyrdom was part and parcel the Shia practice of using their children to clear minefields during the Iran-Iraq war

Welp, now you have that to prove.

[Highever]

While suicide martyrdom did not win the Iran–Iraq War for Iran, it did spread to Lebanon, where it won victories for the Iraqi Islamic Da'wa party, Shia 'allies' of the Islamic Revolution there. The 1983 bombings against U.S. and French peacekeeping troops by Hizballah killed over 300 and drove the US and French from Lebanon. Another longer bombing campaign did likewise to the Israeli army. Khomeini is credited by some with inspiring these "suicide bombers".[77]

Ok, but did Khomeinei say that himself? Being credited with something doesn't necessarily mean one did it.

Suicide martyrdom was part and parcel the Shia practice of using their children to clear minefields during the Iran-Iraq war

Welp, now you have that to prove.

The claim of child soldiers being used to clear minefields is a subject of debate, I know that much. However there does seem to be relatively few credible sources that adamantly state it occured.

Regardless however it was not as they are seemingly l trying to make it out to be, where parents ordered their children to run out into minefields.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Ok, but did Khomeinei say that himself? Being credited with something doesn't necessarily mean one did it.

Welp, now you have that to prove.

The claim of child soldiers being used to clear minefields is a subject of debate, I know that much. However there does seem to be relatively few credible sources that adamantly state it occured.

Whether it happened or not, he/she also has to prove that Shi'ism teaches this, along with his/her claim that Shi'ism teaches suicide bombing.

[Australian rePublic]

but notice how the Middle East became increasingly unstable in the Cold War?

Right, because before the Cold War, all Middle Easterners were holding hands and signing kumbaya.

In the entire 5000 years of history, the entire Middle East was a world bastion of peace and love, it only turned violent after the Cold War.

[Al Mumtahanah]

While suicide martyrdom did not win the Iran–Iraq War for Iran, it did spread to Lebanon, where it won victories for the Iraqi Islamic Da'wa party, Shia 'allies' of the Islamic Revolution there. The 1983 bombings against U.S. and French peacekeeping troops by Hizballah killed over 300 and drove the US and French from Lebanon. Another longer bombing campaign did likewise to the Israeli army. Khomeini is credited by some with inspiring these "suicide bombers".[77]

Ok, but did Khomeinei say that himself? Being credited with something doesn't necessarily mean one did it.

Suicide martyrdom was part and parcel the Shia practice of using their children to clear minefields during the Iran-Iraq war

Welp, now you have that to prove.

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/12/maga ... icism.html

I am surprised you never looked at the face of Shias, it's pretty important for Muslims

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Ok, but did Khomeinei say that himself? Being credited with something doesn't necessarily mean one did it.

Welp, now you have that to prove.

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/12/maga ... icism.html

I am surprised you never looked at the face of Shias, it's pretty important for Muslims

I am surprised you have a problem proving your claims. And yes, I have better things to do than engage in sectarian fearmongering.

[Vetalia]

but notice how the Middle East became increasingly unstable in the Cold War?

Right, because before the Cold War, all Middle Easterners were holding hands and signing kumbaya.

In the entire 5000 years of history, the entire Middle East was a world bastion of peace and love, it only turned violent after the Cold War.

To be fair, though, it was pretty quiet for most of the years since the last Crusade ended.

[Nakena]

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/12/maga ... icism.html

I am surprised you never looked at the face of Shias, it's pretty important for Muslims

I am surprised you have a problem proving your claims. And yes, I have better things to do than engage in sectarian fearmongering.

Wait till Khataiy returns. You can much learn from him. ^^

[Al Mumtahanah]

https://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/12/maga ... icism.html

I am surprised you never looked at the face of Shias, it's pretty important for Muslims

I am surprised you have a problem proving your claims. And yes, I have better things to do than engage in sectarian fearmongering.

I just gave you a link

Shi'ites have always been the deadliest enemies. This isn't new or fearmongering. Shi'ites looted the Kaaba and ransomed the Black Stone. They also smashed it into pieces

[Rojava Free State]

but notice how the Middle East became increasingly unstable in the Cold War?

Right, because before the Cold War, all Middle Easterners were holding hands and signing kumbaya.

In the entire 5000 years of history, the entire Middle East was a world bastion of peace and love, it only turned violent after the Cold War.

Does anyone understand that the middle East was not always an especially violent region? There were wars but Europe used to have wars like every decade too until world war II, after which the nuclear bomb put a halt to that

Oh, in the 1990s there was the yugoslav wars and currently there's a war in Ukraine but still, Europeans didn't stop fighting because European good, brown man bad and whatever other crap they throw out there alot. Europeans stopped fighting because they suddenly had a weapon that could literally wipe them out completely and end the world. ThE middle East can still afford to fight because only Israel has a nuke, but if everyone else had one, fighting wouldn't be an option

[Rojava Free State]

I am surprised you have a problem proving your claims. And yes, I have better things to do than engage in sectarian fearmongering.

I just gave you a link

Shi'ites have always been the deadliest enemies. This isn't new or fearmongering. Shi'ites looted the Kaaba and ransomed the Black Stone. They also smashed it into pieces

Let me guess, Shiites were also behind the death of john kennedy, bombed pearl harbor, wiped out the native Americans and spread the black plague to Europe too. Is that correct?

[Highever]

I am surprised you have a problem proving your claims. And yes, I have better things to do than engage in sectarian fearmongering.

I just gave you a link

Shi'ites have always been the deadliest enemies. This isn't new or fearmongering. Shi'ites looted the Kaaba and ransomed the Black Stone. They also smashed it into pieces

No they didnt. If the story is supposed to be taken as fact it just happened to be hit by a catapult missile. It was not deliberately targeted and smashed.

[Nakena]

Right, because before the Cold War, all Middle Easterners were holding hands and signing kumbaya.

In the entire 5000 years of history, the entire Middle East was a world bastion of peace and love, it only turned violent after the Cold War.

Does anyone understand that the middle East was not always an especially violent region? There were wars but Europe used to have wars like every decade too until world war II, after which the nuclear bomb put a halt to that

Oh, in the 1990s there was the yugoslav wars and currently there's a war in Ukraine but still, Europeans didn't stop fighting because European good, brown man bad and whatever other crap they throw out there alot. Europeans stopped fighting because they suddenly had a weapon that could literally wipe them out completely and end the world. ThE middle East can still afford to fight because only Israel has a nuke, but if everyone else had one, fighting wouldn't be an option

The war that is currently going on had been coming since a long time. What really triggered the chain was the US invasion of Iraq and the removal of Saddam Hussein which totally destroyed any balance in the region. Even when it was more the calmness before a storm.

As for Syria, it was only a question of time before Assad - like his father before - would face an revolt at some point or war. He knew that hence he sought to fight the war rather than avoiding it and fuelled the fires.

[Rojava Free State]

Right, because before the Cold War, all Middle Easterners were holding hands and signing kumbaya.

In the entire 5000 years of history, the entire Middle East was a world bastion of peace and love, it only turned violent after the Cold War.

To be fair, though, it was pretty quiet for most of the years since the last Crusade ended.

Many Americans like to point out what's wrong with other cultures without realizing America is one of the most warlike nations on this planet. America has been in a war like almost every decade of the 20th and 21st century

1910s: WWI
1940s: WWII
1950s: Korean war
1960s-1970s: Vietnam war
1990s: Persian gulf and yugoslav wars
2000s to present: war in Iraq and afghanistan

Like every ten years we're in a new war, and usually it's over some garbage. We've singlehandedly killed more innocent people than any jihadists ever could. Not saying the jihadis are good guys cause they're clearly evil as hell, but the war on terror has no good guys. Each side claims to be the right side but both are selfish and lie to their followers to perpetuate the war

[Al Mumtahanah]

I just gave you a link

Shi'ites have always been the deadliest enemies. This isn't new or fearmongering. Shi'ites looted the Kaaba and ransomed the Black Stone. They also smashed it into pieces

Let me guess, Shiites were also behind the death of john kennedy, bombed pearl harbor, wiped out the native Americans and spread the black plague to Europe too. Is that correct?

Have you ever read a book on the history of Islam or the Middle East?

[Australian rePublic]

There is only one thing behind the instability in the Middle East- violent interpretations of the Quran. Plain and simple. Peaceful interpretations of the Quran lead to Muslims leading peaceful lives. Violent interpretations of the Quran lead to Violence. Even if you look at Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia or Brunei, violence runs rampart within their borders. Look into how these countries treat homosexuals, for example. The only thing that's really changed about radical Islam since the time of Mohammed is the destructivness of weapons. There are also peaceful interpretations of Islam too, (just look countries like the UAE and Lebanon, whilst not perfect, at least aren't that bad) but sadly the violent interpretations of the faith dominate the Middle East, and the only part of that which has changed is the destrictiveness of weapons

[Rojava Free State]

Let me guess, Shiites were also behind the death of john kennedy, bombed pearl harbor, wiped out the native Americans and spread the black plague to Europe too. Is that correct?

Have you ever read a book on the history of Islam or the Middle East?

Yeah, I liked the culture and the advancements and history, I just don't like your religion or really any religion for the matter. Tell me again how the shiites are all guilty as sin for something that happened hundreds of years ago