by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:06 pm
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.
The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC
by Onitsha Empire » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:08 pm
The Galactic Liberal Democracy wrote:So let me explain. You might be thinking "Have you gone insane? Is this another topic that's gonna get locked?"
but notice how the Middle East became increasingly unstable in the Cold War? Also note the USSR spent a higher budget on foreign intervention? And they likely gave money to terrorists who still operate against the West right now?
If I'm taking it too far, I'll slow this down. Basically, the USSR and PRC have invested in all out secret and indirect warfare against NATO. This includes terrorism. Terrorism didn't happen much from Muslims before the commies set up puppet governments in Arab and African countries, and religion can rouse extremism. Using Islam as a recruiting method, the Soviets could get several terrorist groups started.
I believe this tactic was first used when the communists realized they were losing to General Reagan and freedom was near. Gorbachev expanded the budget so he could fund radicals who later started al quadi, ISIS, and the Taliban. But the socialists had been encouraging extremism before hand, creating Bathism and sympathetic states. Expoliting poverty, they dumped money on countries that were likely to host terror groups.
What is your opinion? Do you think this is real? Do the ghosts of the Soviet Union still haunt us?
by The World Capitalist Confederation » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:08 pm
by Imbalistan » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:09 pm
Chan Island wrote:And I'm expecting this thread to devolve into a
racist and/or religious and/or politics shitshow within 3 pages.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:09 pm
by Onitsha Empire » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:10 pm
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.
by Thermodolia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:10 pm
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.
by Onitsha Empire » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:11 pm
Imbalistan wrote:To me, I thought it would have been the US, since they did fund the Taliban and Al-Quida to fight the USSR.
They were the ones who ended up nuking my religions reputation.
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:11 pm
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.
globalist .The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.
The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:12 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Another non-serious thread from you. Great.
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.
The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC
by Gates of Alexander » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:13 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:15 pm
by Al Mumtahanah » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:16 pm
by Imbalistan » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:17 pm
Chan Island wrote:And I'm expecting this thread to devolve into a
racist and/or religious and/or politics shitshow within 3 pages.
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:19 pm
Imbalistan wrote:To me, I thought it would have been the US, since they did fund the Taliban and Al-Quida to fight the USSR.
They were the ones who ended up nuking my religions reputation.
Thermodolia wrote:The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:No. Capitalism is behind radical Islam. Americans funded the Mujahideen and others to specifically combat Soviet influence in the Middle East. Plain and simple.
The dumbest thing we could have done honestly. Reagan should have let Afghanistan remain under soviet rule.
Gates of Alexander wrote:Communism is responsible, tangentially, for the rise of Islam in many places around the world. Insofar as some of those places became more radical than others, I suppose.
When the USSR fell, there was a power and ideological vacuum in much of the then-Third World. Islam was often a natural fit to fill that void. It was historically antagonistic with the West and Christendom, broadly, and so assumed that mantle which had once been taken by Global Communism.
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.
The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC
by Thermodolia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:21 pm
Imbalistan wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends
Yet leaving Afgahnistan to the soviets would have been little better. 10's of thousands of Afghani's flew into Pakistan, and as a Pakastani, they brought 2 major things:
Heroin.
Guns.
And not to mention the US funded the Taliban, so yeah, we single handedly were responsible for our own plunder.
by Thermodolia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:25 pm
by Al Mumtahanah » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:29 pm
Imbalistan wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends
Yet leaving Afgahnistan to the soviets would have been little better. 10's of thousands of Afghani's flew into Pakistan, and as a Pakastani, they brought 2 major things:
Heroin.
Guns.
And not to mention the US funded the Taliban, so yeah, we single handedly were responsible for our own plunder.
by Thermodolia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:29 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends
I understand how you feel. But millions of Afghans would have died, hundreds of thousands at least.
The USSR wasn't known for their mercy to people who opposed them.
They'd also still have won due to geopolitics and guerillas, so would not have changed much. It'd just have been even harder and much more a underdog victory.
9/11 was a great tragedy, but dooming people to an oppressive regime almost as bad as the Nazis is not the answer, there are other ways to have stopped 9/11.
by Hurdergaryp » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:32 pm
Imbalistan wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Dude we wouldn’t have had to worry about 9/11. 10s of Thousands of Americans would still be living to this day. Some of whom where my friends
Yet leaving Afgahnistan to the soviets would have been little better. 10's of thousands of Afghani's flew into Pakistan, and as a Pakastani, they brought 2 major things:
Heroin.
Guns.
And not to mention the US funded the Taliban, so yeah, we single handedly were responsible for our own plunder.
by Kowani » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:32 pm
Thermodolia wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:I understand how you feel. But millions of Afghans would have died, hundreds of thousands at least.
The USSR wasn't known for their mercy to people who opposed them.
They'd also still have won due to geopolitics and guerillas, so would not have changed much. It'd just have been even harder and much more a underdog victory.
9/11 was a great tragedy, but dooming people to an oppressive regime almost as bad as the Nazis is not the answer, there are other ways to have stopped 9/11.
Millions of Iraqis and Afghans wouldn’t have died either. I never would have had to go to Afghanistan. I never would have had to lose some of my friends.
So ya I see no issues with letting the Soviets bleed themselves out in Afghanistan. We never should have supported the Mujahideen just like we never should have supported the rebels in Syria
The taliban was just as worse if not worse than the Soviets. They brutally murdered millions and rape thousands
by Thermodolia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:33 pm
Kowani wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Millions of Iraqis and Afghans wouldn’t have died either. I never would have had to go to Afghanistan. I never would have had to lose some of my friends.
So ya I see no issues with letting the Soviets bleed themselves out in Afghanistan. We never should have supported the Mujahideen just like we never should have supported the rebels in Syria
The taliban was just as worse if not worse than the Soviets. They brutally murdered millions and rape thousands
…The Soviets have a higher kill count than the Taliban, mate.
by Kowani » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:38 pm
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