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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:39 am

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Did you mean a broken link and a study that deals with victims, not perpetrators?

That's not my issue nor my responsibility, I commented on his quip re: source reliability


You did say two, technically there's only one ;)
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Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:Then why did I get a 100 out of 100?

It isn't clever to tell lies.


I agree!

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:39 am

I also note you're still avoiding some very basic questions about your study methodology.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:40 am

I smell cloaked homophobia.

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Postby Geneviev » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:40 am

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So where did said Reuters source establish a causal relationship?

If you're failing to understand the basic difference between correlation and actual causation, then your professor is not going to be very pleased with your final report for this study.


Then why did I get a 100 out of 100?

Are you sure? I wouldn't have done so well with something like that in tenth grade.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:40 am

Celritannia wrote:I smell cloaked homophobia.


It's not really cloaked. This whole OP has been an exercise in basic confirmation bias.
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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:41 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It isn't clever to tell lies.


I agree!


So why are you completely misrepresenting your sources?
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:41 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:It isn't clever to tell lies.


I agree!

Then why do you insist on doing it?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:42 am

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I agree!


So why are you completely misrepresenting your sources?


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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:42 am

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Celritannia wrote:I smell cloaked homophobia.


It's not really cloaked. This whole OP has been an exercise in basic confirmation bias.


True, but the OP is going around the answer to try and cloak their homophobia.

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Postby Galway-Dublin » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:44 am

Vassenor wrote:I also note you're still avoiding some very basic questions about your study methodology.

You mean to tell me that cherry-picked responses some het guy got from Queer people in order to selectively form a hypothesis based on supporting their extermination could have been shoddily researched? Say it ain't so, Sam
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Postby Caracasus » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:46 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474


Load of shit. I really hope you're not studying anything where you might have to actually conduct research at any point.
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Postby Agarntrop » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:46 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474

Saying that higher rates of STDs, domestic violence etc... in homosexual couples means we must eliminate homosexuality is like saying that there are more black criminals than there should be per capita and as a result black people should be culled or saying that the fact the overwhelming majority of paedophiles are men means all men must be castrated. Don't add 2 and 2 together and make 76.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:47 am

Vassenor wrote:I also note you're still avoiding some very basic questions about your study methodology.

Tbh I very much doubt that this study even exists. I think it is just some bs made up by the OP in an attempt to give their homophobia more credit.
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Postby Page » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:48 am

The attempt to cloak uptight homophobia behind supposed statistics is fooling no one. Anyone can do that with any group they hate. You could cite the rising suicide rates of white males to claim that white people are mentally defective, or you could point out that the prison population has more Christians per capita than the national population to say Christianity makes people violent. That is not scientific, it's barely pseudoscience, it's nothing more than finding any scrap to justify hate.
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Postby Saciu » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:49 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474

First of all, I would like to congratulate you on having the courage to say this. I disagree with you, but many people I'm sure would commit violence against people who say things like this.
It is very misleading to say LGBT in the STI article when all you're talking about is men who are attracted to men, not women who are attracted to women nor trans people.
I certainly imagine that they STI rate is much, much lower between MSM who wear condoms. The high prevalence of STIs amongst MSM is due to the much higher frequency of penetrative anal sex, and the higher risk of STI transferral it brings. For similar reasons, WSW have much lower rates of STIs - does that mean that we should encourage lesbianism?
The violence rate is most likely correlation, not causation. Many LGBT people have most likely suffered environmental issues, especially violence, which would have increased the rate of violence. It may also be the case that people in homosexual relationships are more forthcoming about intrarelationship violence.
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Postby Wladfa » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:50 am

No credible medical journals, psychological studies, or even studies by LGBTQ individuals.


Wouldn’t trusting studies by lgbt people be the embodiment of bias?

Fact of the matter is simple, evolutionary biology teaches that for a species to survive it’s individuals must:

1) Self preserve

2) Procreate

Well everything but the B in LGBT makes the matter unrealistic, so the only conclusion that can be drawn scientifically speaking is that it is in fact disorderly in nature. And how anyone can argue that Gender Dysphoria isn’t a mental health disorder is beyond me seeing literally mutilates and cutting off your genitals in a surgical procedure is the exact opposite of natural practice for procreation.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:51 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:That's not my issue nor my responsibility, I commented on his quip re: source reliability


You did say two, technically there's only one ;)

Two were posted, only one is functional and that doesn't matter to my argument but I digress
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:52 am

Love me some bigots doing their usual concern trolling about LGBT people's health, only bringing up our specific health issues to shit on us.

Go away. You're not presenting this topic in good faith and you're not adding anything of value to anyone's life with this "anti-PC" garbage.
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Postby Ravennog » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:52 am

Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474


What a pathetic argument; you've only shown that intolerance against the LGBT community is unfounded.
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Postby Earth-Moon System » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:53 am

Liriena wrote:Love me some bigots doing their usual concern trolling about LGBT people's health, only bringing up our specific health issues to shit on us.

Go away. You're not presenting this topic in good faith and you're not adding anything of value to anyone's life with this "anti-PC" garbage.

You don't have any good arguments against the lad'. You're just insulting him because of his rightful beliefs.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:54 am

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Liriena wrote:Love me some bigots doing their usual concern trolling about LGBT people's health, only bringing up our specific health issues to shit on us.

Go away. You're not presenting this topic in good faith and you're not adding anything of value to anyone's life with this "anti-PC" garbage.

You don't have any good arguments against the lad'. You're just insulting him because of his rightful beliefs.

I'm sorry who are you?
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Postby Earth-Moon System » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:54 am

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Realm of Coffeecakes wrote:June is LGBT pride month and among the many things being discussed regarding the LGBT community is health. As I myself engaged in research at my college campus about metal and physical health issues facing the LGBT community, I came to the conclusion that the evidence that homosexuality and lesbianism are dangerous to society is overwhelming. HIV/AIDS rates and other STD rates are much higher among the LGBT community than the straight community and LGBT people are much more likely to sexual promiscuous. I also found that the rate of domestic violence is much higher among same-sex couples and that when it comes to violence, LGBT perpetrators tend to be even more brutal than their straight counterparts. After these findings, I just don't understand why we should consider homosexuality okay and normal or okay. Instead of being blindly politically correct for the sake of an ideology, I think it is better that we stand up for the truth and fight against homosexuality and find a cure for it to help the people struggling with it. What do you think? Please read the sources first.

Here are a few of my sources.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-aids ... H220100923

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291357

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... d_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8838474


What a pathetic argument; you've only shown that intolerance against the LGBT community is unfounded.

Again, you're just another politically correct simplewit that doesn't have any good arguments against the lads' well-written post with unbiased sources

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