The Male Pill

[Fartsniffage]

I think that was their point ? Eradicating all STDs and the chance of unplanned pregnancies, with 100% success rates, would be a significant thing.

Which is nearly impossible to do

Hard, but not nearly impossible. Vaccines are a thing, we just need to develop them.

[Kowani]

I'm never going to trust it. It's better in my view, for the woman to take contraceptives instead if they're so inclined. They only have one egg at a time, so its easier to intercept that than to interfere with a man's sperm supply.

Sai, you of all people have no right to talk about bodily chemistry.

[Purpelia]

Which is nearly impossible to do

Hard, but not nearly impossible. Vaccines are a thing, we just need to develop them.

But surely we should not waste time and money developing life saving vaccines and medication when we can instead spend it developing an expensive hormone based alternative to a piece of latex tubing.

[Fartsniffage]

I don't really see how this is any more attractive than just a rubber. But I guess more options is always better.

The feel is very different, even with the really expensive condoms. And it's also about intimacy.

[Cekoviu]

Doesn't progesterone also come with an increased risk of gynecomastia? Trans women use it for that reason.

[The South Falls]

Finally, a solution to where no more holes can be poked in our defenses.

[Fartsniffage]

Hard, but not nearly impossible. Vaccines are a thing, we just need to develop them.

But surely we should not waste time and money developing life saving vaccines and medication when we can instead spend it developing an expensive hormone based alternative to a piece of latex tubing.

Condoms have a high failure rate due to people not knowing how to use them properly, people using them after their expiry date, using a lube that damages them, etc. An extra layer of security is good, for nothing else other than unwanted babies costing a lot of money.

[Nationalist Teksas]

I hope one day we find a way to remove the need for condoms altogether and can bareback who ever whenever.

Sending an unprotected canoe up the mud river would still carry the risk of disease for the canoe.

[Purpelia]

I don't really see how this is any more attractive than just a rubber. But I guess more options is always better.

The feel is very different, even with the really expensive condoms. And it's also about intimacy.

On the other hand a condom provides you with the advantages of being safe from STDs AND having clear visual evidence of your act.

[Galloism]

I don't really see how this is any more attractive than just a rubber. But I guess more options is always better.

Absolutely - for a myriad of reasons.

1) No condom is more intimate
2) No condom feels better generally speaking
3) Condoms have a relatively high failure rate under "average" usage (it's very low for "correct" usage, but "correct" isn't "average").
4) Over a million men are raped every year in the US alone, most of them by women. This provides a safety for men to keep them from being raped into fatherhood.

[Cekoviu]

The feel is very different, even with the really expensive condoms. And it's also about intimacy.

On the other hand a condom provides you with the advantages of being safe from STDs AND having clear visual evidence of your act.

Which is good why?

[Fartsniffage]

Doesn't progesterone also come with an increased risk of gynecomastia? Trans women use it for that reason.

Hence mixing it with extra testosterone to balance the effects.

[Kaztropol]

I don't really see how this is any more attractive than just a rubber. But I guess more options is always better.

The feel is very different, even with the really expensive condoms. And it's also about intimacy.

Also, latex allergies, and the fact that some models of condoms are not available in both latex and polyurethane versions.

[Cekoviu]

I don't really see how this is any more attractive than just a rubber. But I guess more options is always better.

Absolutely - for a myriad of reasons.

1) No condom is more intimate
2) No condom feels better generally speaking
3) Condoms have a relatively high failure rate under "average" usage (it's very low for "correct" usage, but "correct" isn't "average").
4) Over a million men are raped every year in the US alone, most of them by women. This provides a safety for men to keep them from being raped into fatherhood.

The worry I have for the last point is that a lot of those men probably aren't intending to have reproductive sex, so they wouldn't be taking this supplement.

[Ostroeuropa]

I don't really see how this is any more attractive than just a rubber. But I guess more options is always better.

Absolutely - for a myriad of reasons.

1) No condom is more intimate
2) No condom feels better generally speaking
3) Condoms have a relatively high failure rate under "average" usage (it's very low for "correct" usage, but "correct" isn't "average").
4) Over a million men are raped every year in the US alone, most of them by women. This provides a safety for men to keep them from being raped into fatherhood.

My inner radical also wants me to point out that a major reason for a power shift has been women lowering their sex drive through the pill while mens remained the same. (Lower libido being one of the consequences.).

Lowering mens libido will lessen exploitation of men by women in general.

[Cekoviu]

Doesn't progesterone also come with an increased risk of gynecomastia? Trans women use it for that reason.

Hence mixing it with extra testosterone to balance the effects.

That also seems very risky in itself. w/e.

The feel is very different, even with the really expensive condoms. And it's also about intimacy.

Also, latex allergies, and the fact that some models of condoms are not available in both latex and polyurethane versions.

Everybody should just use sheepskin condoms.

[Scomagia]

Hard pass. I'm not interested for the same reason my wife doesn't take the pill. I'm not interested in fucking with my hormones.

You internal chemistry was practically made to be fucked with

Sure, I just don't want to in this case. I'm sure that, like the pill, it has serious risks that I don't want to take, even if they are marginal.

It's still cool for whomever wants to use it, though. It is needed.

[Kaztropol]

On the other hand a condom provides you with the advantages of being safe from STDs AND having clear visual evidence of your act.

Which is good why?

Either it's a reference to that infamous legal case where a woman performed an act that would not normally result in conception (wrong end of the body for that), and then coughed it up and applied it, resulting in a pregnancy that the man involved was then obliged to pay child support for (the judge ruling that sperm is technically a 'gift' once it leaves the body or something like that), so visual custody of any emitted sperm is important to guard against semen-stealing witches.

Or I have no idea.

[Fartsniffage]

Absolutely - for a myriad of reasons.

1) No condom is more intimate
2) No condom feels better generally speaking
3) Condoms have a relatively high failure rate under "average" usage (it's very low for "correct" usage, but "correct" isn't "average").
4) Over a million men are raped every year in the US alone, most of them by women. This provides a safety for men to keep them from being raped into fatherhood.

My inner radical also wants me to point out that a major reason for a power shift has been women lowering their sex drive through the pill while mens remained the same. (Lower libido being one of the consequences.).

Lowering mens libido will lessen exploitation of men by women in general.

According to the article, it's increased the sex drive of the guy in it.

[Galloism]

Absolutely - for a myriad of reasons.

1) No condom is more intimate
2) No condom feels better generally speaking
3) Condoms have a relatively high failure rate under "average" usage (it's very low for "correct" usage, but "correct" isn't "average").
4) Over a million men are raped every year in the US alone, most of them by women. This provides a safety for men to keep them from being raped into fatherhood.

The worry I have for the last point is that a lot of those men probably aren't intending to have reproductive sex, so they wouldn't be taking this supplement.

Well, it's a gel (supplement is a weird turn of phrase here), but to the point they can if it passes clinical trials. Which will allow men to go out and be themselves and not worry that if they pass out they'll wake up with an unwanted child they can do nothing about.

Given the disproportionate treatment they get in this regard, it's a really really good caution.

[Ostroeuropa]

My inner radical also wants me to point out that a major reason for a power shift has been women lowering their sex drive through the pill while mens remained the same. (Lower libido being one of the consequences.).

Lowering mens libido will lessen exploitation of men by women in general.

According to the article, it's increased the sex drive of the guy in it.

That sounds like it could be a problem tbh.

The worry I have for the last point is that a lot of those men probably aren't intending to have reproductive sex, so they wouldn't be taking this supplement.

Well, it's a gel (supplement is a weird turn of phrase here), but to the point they can if it passes clinical trials. Which will allow men to go out and be themselves and not worry that if they pass out they'll wake up with an unwanted child they can do nothing about.

Given the disproportionate treatment they get in this regard, it's a really really good caution.

Prediction:

1. Courts basically openly punishing men for not having the gel now it exists in order to extort them for child support to benefit women some more (YOU HAD SEX THO SO STFU. Becomes "ITS SO EASY TO USE GEL, YOUR FAULT.")

2. It becomes incredibly widespread and some men basically refuse to come off it

3. More cases like the Indian one as men inevitably become controllers over reproduction.

4. Zero self-awareness from most women who throw tantrums in their spaces about how evil men are for having heightened levels of control after being punished over and over for not controlling it well enough.

[Cekoviu]

The worry I have for the last point is that a lot of those men probably aren't intending to have reproductive sex, so they wouldn't be taking this supplement.

Well, it's a gel (supplement is a weird turn of phrase here), but to the point they can if it passes clinical trials. Which will allow men to go out and be themselves and not worry that if they pass out they'll wake up with an unwanted child they can do nothing about.

Given the disproportionate treatment they get in this regard, it's a really really good caution.

I suppose that's true, and some women will also do the same thing with birth control. Either way, at least the playing field will be more level if men have a non-object based means of birth control. (as long as it gets enough attention for people to know about it and use it)

[The New California Republic]

The worry I have for the last point is that a lot of those men probably aren't intending to have reproductive sex, so they wouldn't be taking this supplement.

Well, it's a gel (supplement is a weird turn of phrase here), but to the point they can if it passes clinical trials. Which will allow men to go out and be themselves and not worry that if they pass out they'll wake up with an unwanted child they can do nothing about.

Given the disproportionate treatment they get in this regard, it's a really really good caution.

But obviously it is no replacement for a condom. It's more of an added safety net against pregnancy if the condom fails etc.

[Ostroeuropa]

Well, it's a gel (supplement is a weird turn of phrase here), but to the point they can if it passes clinical trials. Which will allow men to go out and be themselves and not worry that if they pass out they'll wake up with an unwanted child they can do nothing about.

Given the disproportionate treatment they get in this regard, it's a really really good caution.

But obviously it is no replacement for a condom. It's more of an added safety net against pregnancy if the condom fails etc.

Tbf the pill is not a replacement for the condom either. The condom remains the safest contraception for initial voluntary encounters.

[Fartsniffage]

But obviously it is no replacement for a condom. It's more of an added safety net against pregnancy if the condom fails etc.

Tbf the pill is not a replacement for the condom either. The condom remains the safest contraception for initial voluntary encounters.

And if it's a Tinder hookup....