The Male Pill

[US-SSR]

I hope one day we find a way to remove the need for condoms altogether and can bareback who ever whenever. ladies and gents, history is being made

Um like vasectomy?

[WayNeacTia]

So by that argument, the feds have what? 75000 sworn federal agents? A million man army? Do you believe you have the right to all of that as well? I would be far more worried about those things than ICBMs that probably wouldn't detonate anyway as they are so old. I understand the point you are trying to get at, but one would think that rationality would take precedence. I suppose I might me mistaken though.



Valid informed consent huh? So if my wife claims that she took her pill, and she gets pregnant, due to the fact she forgot to take them (I know it doesn't work like that), then I can charge her with rape? I am almost 1000% certain every judge, let alone the police and the crown would throw that out and laugh me out of the courthouse. The solution here is pretty simple, if you don't know the person, or implicitly trust them, either use barrier protection or refrain. Responsibility is a two way street.

Actually, that’s not what I was talking about at all. Rather, drunk people, those on drugs, etc.

And, in the case of valid consent-children.

Uh huh. Do you even remotely comprehend how many people would be charged with rape, just because they had sex while drunk? Pretty sure that was the ultimate cause of the baby boom. As for drugs, what kind are we talking about here? If someone smokes a joint and engages in coital relations, is it rape? As for children? Age of consent is a thing, and there are special protections written in for them, such as age difference and the like. I realize consent laws aren't uniform, but as I said, responsibility is a two way street.

It is definitely possible for people to force themselves upon men, and tie the man down with child support as a "commitment" thing.

Possible yes, likely no. Unlike a female, a male actually needs to be aroused for anything to happen. Have you ever tried to have sex and little willy doesn't want to play nice? Makes things pretty difficult to inseminate the female.

I hope one day we find a way to remove the need for condoms altogether and can bareback who ever whenever. ladies and gents, history is being made

Um like vasectomy?

Which is 99% of cases is completely irreversible.

[Ethel mermania]

The cops are really good at helping at that sort of thing, and there are support shelters for abused women. Someone hits a partner, they need to be in jail.

Keep in mind we're talking about men using the contraceptive gel here. It's likely the man would be the one abused and needing protection in this scenario.

The guy still needs to get out, but tbf, Then the gel would make sense. That said we are still dealing with a very small portion of the overall market for the product. Which was my original point.

[Ethel mermania]

The cops are really good at helping at that sort of thing, and there are support shelters for abused women. Someone hits a partner, they need to be in jail.

Ethel, have you seen a vet recently? We're talking about men who are in abusive relationships with a partner capable of getting pregnant, not women.

No I am feral. No Vets for me, and no neutering or flea baths.

I thought you were shifting the goal posts. My bad.

[Galloism]

Keep in mind we're talking about men using the contraceptive gel here. It's likely the man would be the one abused and needing protection in this scenario.

The guy still needs to get out, but tbf, Then the gel would make sense. That said we are still dealing with a very small portion of the overall market for the product. Which was my original point.

I mean, it's certainly not the majority, but it's a fairly substantial portion of the market.

25 percent of women admit to committing domestic violence.

That's not a "very small portion" of the population.

[The South Falls]

Actually, that’s not what I was talking about at all. Rather, drunk people, those on drugs, etc.

And, in the case of valid consent-children.

Uh huh. Do you even remotely comprehend how many people would be charged with rape, just because they had sex while drunk? Pretty sure that was the ultimate cause of the baby boom. As for drugs, what kind are we talking about here? If someone smokes a joint and engages in coital relations, is it rape? As for children? Age of consent is a thing, and there are special protections written in for them, such as age difference and the like. I realize consent laws aren't uniform, but as I said, responsibility is a two way street.

It is definitely possible for people to force themselves upon men, and tie the man down with child support as a "commitment" thing.

Possible yes, likely no. Unlike a female, a male actually needs to be aroused for anything to happen. Have you ever tried to have sex and little willy doesn't want to play nice? Makes things pretty difficult to inseminate the female.

Um like vasectomy?

Which is 99% of cases is completely irreversible.

Male rape is a legitimate thing. Fear doesn't stop it.

[Galloism]

. one sec, screwed up the tag

[Ethel mermania]

The guy still needs to get out, but tbf, Then the gel would make sense. That said we are still dealing with a very small portion of the overall market for the product. Which was my original point.

I mean, it's certainly not the majority, but it's a fairly substantial portion of the market.

25 percent of women admit to committing domestic violence.

That's not a "very small portion" of the population.

The topic is the gel, and the subtopic is rape.

Edit: and its behind a paywall.

[Galloism]

Unlike a female, a male actually needs to be aroused for anything to happen.

For the love of all that is holy and unholy in the entire fucking universe will you people PLEASE actually study and learn how your dick works?

[Galloism]

I mean, it's certainly not the majority, but it's a fairly substantial portion of the market.

25 percent of women admit to committing domestic violence.

That's not a "very small portion" of the population.

The topic is the gel, and the subtopic is rape.

Edit: and its behind a paywall.

Search the title in google "Harvard domestic violence not always one sided", when you access from google it works.

And we were talking abuse not rape, although even on the topic of rape, something like a million men per year are raped by their spouses in the US alone. That's a pretty substantial market, even if you assumed it was all repeats (which it's not).

[US-SSR]

Um like vasectomy?

Which is 99% of cases is completely irreversible.

And your point? There are too many of us already and plenty of adoptable children.

[Kowani]

Actually, that’s not what I was talking about at all. Rather, drunk people, those on drugs, etc.

And, in the case of valid consent-children.

Uh huh. Do you even remotely comprehend how many people would be charged with rape, just because they had sex while drunk? Pretty sure that was the ultimate cause of the baby boom. As for drugs, what kind are we talking about here? If someone smokes a joint and engages in coital relations, is it rape? As for children? Age of consent is a thing, and there are special protections written in for them, such as age difference and the like. I realize consent laws aren't uniform, but as I said, responsibility is a two way street.

It is definitely possible for people to force themselves upon men, and tie the man down with child support as a "commitment" thing.

Possible yes, likely no. Unlike a female, a male actually needs to be aroused for anything to happen. Have you ever tried to have sex and little willy doesn't want to play nice? Makes things pretty difficult to inseminate the female.

Um like vasectomy?

Which is 99% of cases is completely irreversible.

Would you care to step into the 21st century? We have advances in psychology and physiology that might interest you, considering you understand neither consent nor arousal.

[Andsed]

Unlike a female, a male actually needs to be aroused for anything to happen.

Oh yay this nonsense again.

[Ethel mermania]

The topic is the gel, and the subtopic is rape.

Edit: and its behind a paywall.

Search the title in google "Harvard domestic violence not always one sided", when you access from google it works.

And we were talking abuse not rape, although even on the topic of rape, something like a million men per year are raped by their spouses in the US alone. That's a pretty substantial market, even if you assumed it was all repeats (which it's not).

I am on the phone, and I am having a difficult time getting any numbers since 2015, and what I am getting is not anywhere near that number. The NCJRS is reporting 85,000 rapes nationwide. Men and woman.

This isnt a rape thread. This is a thread on a spermicide gel. The amount of men being raped by women for the purposes of procreation is not a big market for the product.

[Galloism]

Search the title in google "Harvard domestic violence not always one sided", when you access from google it works.

And we were talking abuse not rape, although even on the topic of rape, something like a million men per year are raped by their spouses in the US alone. That's a pretty substantial market, even if you assumed it was all repeats (which it's not).

I am on the phone, and I am having a difficult time getting any numbers since 2015, and what I am getting is not anywhere near that number. The NCJRS is reporting 85,000 rapes nationwide. Men and woman.

This isnt a rape thread. This is a thread on a spermicide gel. The amount of men being raped by women for the purposes of procreation is not a big market for the product.

I was quoting Harvard, not NCJRS of abuse.

On rape I was referencing the cdc survey:

Hey they changed the report format!

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6308.pdf

You’ll have to look at table six under made to penetrate.


And it doesn’t have to be purposed. One of the big ideas here is that men will finally for the first time ever have true control over their reproduction, even in the face of “normal” bad actors, and this is a big big deal.

[Ethel mermania]

I am on the phone, and I am having a difficult time getting any numbers since 2015, and what I am getting is not anywhere near that number. The NCJRS is reporting 85,000 rapes nationwide. Men and woman.

This isnt a rape thread. This is a thread on a spermicide gel. The amount of men being raped by women for the purposes of procreation is not a big market for the product.

I was quoting Harvard, not NCJRS of abuse.

On rape I was referencing the cdc survey:

Hey they changed the report format!

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6308.pdf

You’ll have to look at table six under made to penetrate.


And it doesn’t have to be purposed. One of the big ideas here is that men will finally for the first time ever have true control over their reproduction, even in the face of “normal” bad actors, and this is a big big deal.

We are in violent agreement that this is a good thing. But inspite of the incel thread, and bad personal experiences, the amount of really evil rapey, abusive women, is not that high.

[Tornado Queendom]

I was quoting Harvard, not NCJRS of abuse.

On rape I was referencing the cdc survey:

Hey they changed the report format!

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/pdf/ss/ss6308.pdf

You’ll have to look at table six under made to penetrate.


And it doesn’t have to be purposed. One of the big ideas here is that men will finally for the first time ever have true control over their reproduction, even in the face of “normal” bad actors, and this is a big big deal.

We are in violent agreement that this is a good thing. But inspite of the incel thread, and bad personal experiences, the amount of really evil rapey, abusive women, is not that high.

Yeah, but the same applies to men. The amount of HIDEOUS/incel/beta males is NOT that high either!

[WayNeacTia]

Unlike a female, a male actually needs to be aroused for anything to happen.

For the love of all that is holy and unholy in the entire fucking universe will you people PLEASE actually study and learn how your dick works?

I know exactly how mine works thanks. Had it all my life. I challenge you to try and pop a cork while willy is sleeping. I can tell you right now, it won't happen, and if you say it does, this is the one time legitimate, notarized proof will be required. Also guys are not just some hormone machine. Just because someone is attempting to get you going, doesn't mean it will happen. If I am not in the mood, my wang doesn't play.

Male rape is a legitimate thing. Fear doesn't stop it.

It is. But we are talking about female on male rape here. If buddy doesn't want to get it up, she may have a difficult time.

Uh huh. Do you even remotely comprehend how many people would be charged with rape, just because they had sex while drunk? Pretty sure that was the ultimate cause of the baby boom. As for drugs, what kind are we talking about here? If someone smokes a joint and engages in coital relations, is it rape? As for children? Age of consent is a thing, and there are special protections written in for them, such as age difference and the like. I realize consent laws aren't uniform, but as I said, responsibility is a two way street.



Possible yes, likely no. Unlike a female, a male actually needs to be aroused for anything to happen. Have you ever tried to have sex and little willy doesn't want to play nice? Makes things pretty difficult to inseminate the female.



Which is 99% of cases is completely irreversible.

Would you care to step into the 21st century? We have advances in psychology and physiology that might interest you, considering you understand neither consent nor arousal.

I suppose us older folks may have different opinions than the newer generations. I on the other hand perfectly understand consent and arousal. For the former, please see above.

Which is 99% of cases is completely irreversible.

And your point? There are too many of us already and plenty of adoptable children.

You have made one of the most solid points I have seen yet. I am not going to threadjack here, but Earths population is already at a critical point. Mother Nature has a way of balancing things out though, and if not, The Force will straighten things out.

We are in violent agreement that this is a good thing. But inspite of the incel thread, and bad personal experiences, the amount of really evil rapey, abusive women, is not that high.

Yeah, but the same applies to men. The amount of HIDEOUS/incel/beta males is NOT that high either!

Incel. Jesus fucking Christ. How in the fuck can you be involuntarily celibate? This is exactly the reason God invented hookers. The only reason someone is celibate is because they choose to be.

[Galloism]

For the love of all that is holy and unholy in the entire fucking universe will you people PLEASE actually study and learn how your dick works?

I know exactly how mine works thanks. Had it all my life. I challenge you to try and pop a cork while willy is sleeping. I can tell you right now, it won't happen. and if you say it does, this is the one time legitimate, notarized proof will be required. Also guys are just some hormone machine. Just because someone is attempting to get you going, doesn't mean it will happen. If I am not in the mood, my wang doesn't play.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315

What stimulates an erection?

Not all erections are triggered by sexual arousal. Dr Ferdi Marais, a urologist from Busamed Private Hospital in Somerset West, explains that an erection is a neuro-vascular phenomenon which can be psychogenic, reflexive or nocturnal in origin.

1) A psychogenic erection is caused by audio-visual stimuli or fantasy.

2) A reflexive erection is caused by touch or irritation of the penis or its nerve supply.

3) A nocturnal erection is a normal erection experienced during deep (REM) sleep.

Erections without arousal

In an article for the Boston University School of Medicine, Dr Irwin Goldstein writes that an erection is a carefully orchestrated series of events controlled by the central nervous system (CNS).

The penis is under the complete control of the CNS, both during sexual arousal and at rest. This can be explained through reflexive or nocturnal erections, says Dr Marais.

Reflexive erections bypass the brain and can happen in patients with complete spinal cord injuries. A full bladder can also cause a reflexive erection.

Nocturnal erections are caused by certain areas in the brain that get active during deep sleep. They send messages to the penile-blood flow via certain pelvic nerves to cause an erection.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315

Almost any strong emotion can cause a boner. Arousal, happiness, fun, excitement, even fear. Not to mention it responds to touch automatically regardless of mental state, happens while you’re damn asleep, and also spontaneously for no known reason at all.

Seriously, learn how your dick works.

[WayNeacTia]

I know exactly how mine works thanks. Had it all my life. I challenge you to try and pop a cork while willy is sleeping. I can tell you right now, it won't happen. and if you say it does, this is the one time legitimate, notarized proof will be required. Also guys are just some hormone machine. Just because someone is attempting to get you going, doesn't mean it will happen. If I am not in the mood, my wang doesn't play.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315

What stimulates an erection?

Not all erections are triggered by sexual arousal. Dr Ferdi Marais, a urologist from Busamed Private Hospital in Somerset West, explains that an erection is a neuro-vascular phenomenon which can be psychogenic, reflexive or nocturnal in origin.

1) A psychogenic erection is caused by audio-visual stimuli or fantasy.

2) A reflexive erection is caused by touch or irritation of the penis or its nerve supply.

3) A nocturnal erection is a normal erection experienced during deep (REM) sleep.

Erections without arousal

In an article for the Boston University School of Medicine, Dr Irwin Goldstein writes that an erection is a carefully orchestrated series of events controlled by the central nervous system (CNS).

The penis is under the complete control of the CNS, both during sexual arousal and at rest. This can be explained through reflexive or nocturnal erections, says Dr Marais.

Reflexive erections bypass the brain and can happen in patients with complete spinal cord injuries. A full bladder can also cause a reflexive erection.

Nocturnal erections are caused by certain areas in the brain that get active during deep sleep. They send messages to the penile-blood flow via certain pelvic nerves to cause an erection.

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315

Almost any strong emotion can cause a boner. Arousal, happiness, fun, excitement, even fear. Not to mention it responds to touch automatically regardless of mental state, happens while you’re damn asleep, and also spontaneously for no known reason at all.

Seriously, learn how your dick works.

Jesus man, I had better tell my dick to read that book then. Seriously? One study proclaims that all dicks work exactly the same? Would you care to talk to my wife about that? She knows mine, better than I know it, and I have complete certainty she would call bullshit on your quote study.

[Kowani]

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315



https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315

Almost any strong emotion can cause a boner. Arousal, happiness, fun, excitement, even fear. Not to mention it responds to touch automatically regardless of mental state, happens while you’re damn asleep, and also spontaneously for no known reason at all.

Seriously, learn how your dick works.

Jesus man, I had better tell my dick to read that book then. Seriously? One study proclaims that all dicks work exactly the same? Would you care to talk to my wife about that? She knows mine, better than I know it, and I have complete certainty she would call bullshit on your quote study.

“There’s evidence against my anecdotal views with a limited viewpoint?” “FAKE NEEEWS!”

[Farnhamia]

https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315



https://www.health24.com/Medical/Erecti ... n-20170315

Almost any strong emotion can cause a boner. Arousal, happiness, fun, excitement, even fear. Not to mention it responds to touch automatically regardless of mental state, happens while you’re damn asleep, and also spontaneously for no known reason at all.

Seriously, learn how your dick works.

Jesus man, I had better tell my dick to read that book then. Seriously? One study proclaims that all dicks work exactly the same? Would you care to talk to my wife about that? She knows mine, better than I know it, and I have complete certainty she would call bullshit on your quote study.

Enough. Go discuss your dick elsewhere.

[WayNeacTia]

Jesus man, I had better tell my dick to read that book then. Seriously? One study proclaims that all dicks work exactly the same? Would you care to talk to my wife about that? She knows mine, better than I know it, and I have complete certainty she would call bullshit on your quote study.

“There’s evidence against my anecdotal views with a limited viewpoint?” “FAKE NEEEWS!”

Try harder, or get a bigger soapbox. Because I have a different opinion, or call bullshit on something, it is automatically fake news?

[Kowani]

“There’s evidence against my anecdotal views with a limited viewpoint?” “FAKE NEEEWS!”

Try harder, or get a bigger soapbox. Because I have a different opinion, or call bullshit on something, it is automatically fake news?

Nah, just more science denial. ”Every man is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

[Zurkerx]

So, it's a gel, not a pill?

In any case, this will be good, although cost and more importantly, effectiveness are concerns. I guess we'll have to wait and see.