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Postby Skarten » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:49 pm

Telconi wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I have an idea, why don't we all just buy weapons to defend ourselves in the melee that is america? Why stop at armed guards when we can arm everyone?


Churches should have armories.

Change my mind.


Expand the Swiss guard and put a detachment in every catholic church in the world.

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Postby Novus America » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:52 pm

Skarten wrote:
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Churches should have armories.

Change my mind.


Expand the Swiss guard and put a detachment in every catholic church in the world.


I mean if they had the Notre Dame University Police wear Swiss Guards uniforms and carry halberds and great swords that would be pretty funny.
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:52 pm

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Communist Zombie Horde wrote:I approve. They might need to defend against Islamists.


In a place like alabama, Islamist insurgents are less of a threat than swallowing a chicken bone accidentally. You're statistically more likely to die From a car crash than a terror attack out there.

https://www.fox10tv.com/news/bill-intro ... 91c40.html
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Radical Islamic terror plans exist in Alabama and it is a cancer waiting to lash out.
Guns don't work against chickens or cars.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:53 pm

Novus America wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I have an idea, why don't we all just buy weapons to defend ourselves in the melee that is america? Why stop at armed guards when we can arm everyone?


Contrary to popular belief not anyone can buy any gun in America.
Let alone legally carry it.
Many states effectively ban carry permits to pretty much everyone except private security and the rich. (We should change that though)

But yes, if you wish to legally arm yourself than do so.


Don't need a carry permit on private property.
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Postby Skarten » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:54 pm

Novus America wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Expand the Swiss guard and put a detachment in every catholic church in the world.


I mean if they had the Notre Dame University Police wear Swiss Guards uniforms and carry halberds and great swords that would be pretty funny.


>Thief tries to steal from the church
>Gets cleaved in half by a halberd

Now that, is something i would pay to see.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:55 pm

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If you read it, then why didn't you at least edit your response? You should have known by then it made no sense.


But it does. You don't want taxpayer money spent on this, which is why we should spend taxpayer money on this.

Even if you were making a logical counterargument, that's still, what? One point out of three I made?
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Postby Telconi » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:55 pm

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But it does. You don't want taxpayer money spent on this, which is why we should spend taxpayer money on this.

Even if you were making a logical counterargument, that's still, what? One point out of three I made?


You made points?
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Postby Gagium » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:56 pm

Cool, a church in Alabama now has security guards on their property? Nice.

What’s the big deal?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:56 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
In a place like alabama, Islamist insurgents are less of a threat than swallowing a chicken bone accidentally. You're statistically more likely to die From a car crash than a terror attack out there.

https://www.fox10tv.com/news/bill-intro ... 91c40.html
https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/f ... ror-traini
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Mansoor_Al-Amriki
Radical Islamic terror plans exist in Alabama and it is a cancer waiting to lash out.
Guns don't work against chickens or cars.


Wow you found a guy from Alabama who joined jihadists R us. Dude, your likelihood of being a victim of an Islamist attack anywhere in america is pretty low. Jihadism in Alabama is to cancer what the mole on my upper torso is to said illness. You're more likely to be killed by some random gang member or mugger or sovereign citizen than a jihadi. I support everyone being armed just as much as you, but Americans overblow the threat of Islamic terrorism so much that it almost become a like the new red scare
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:02 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:https://www.fox10tv.com/news/bill-intro ... 91c40.html
https://abc3340.com/news/nation-world/f ... ror-traini
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Mansoor_Al-Amriki
Radical Islamic terror plans exist in Alabama and it is a cancer waiting to lash out.
Guns don't work against chickens or cars.


Wow you found a guy from Alabama who joined jihadists R us. Dude, your likelihood of being a victim of an Islamist attack anywhere in america is pretty low. Jihadism in Alabama is to cancer what the mole on my upper torso is to said illness. You're more likely to be killed by some random gang member or mugger or sovereign citizen than a jihadi. I support everyone being armed just as much as you, but Americans overblow the threat of Islamic terrorism so much that it almost become a like the new red scare

Carey defends from robbery and murder . Lots of anti white Christan exists in poor black communities and attacks could happen unless tensions started up by Democrats resolve. Arming the church will help in incase there are shootings like the one at Christchurch (which wouldn't have happened without New Zealnds insane gun laws). Freedom of religion will only exist if you can protect religious property from attackers like it's your own.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Contrary to popular belief not anyone can buy any gun in America.
Let alone legally carry it.
Many states effectively ban carry permits to pretty much everyone except private security and the rich. (We should change that though)

But yes, if you wish to legally arm yourself than do so.


Don't need a carry permit on private property.


True. But it would be nice to be able to carry off my property.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:06 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Wow you found a guy from Alabama who joined jihadists R us. Dude, your likelihood of being a victim of an Islamist attack anywhere in america is pretty low. Jihadism in Alabama is to cancer what the mole on my upper torso is to said illness. You're more likely to be killed by some random gang member or mugger or sovereign citizen than a jihadi. I support everyone being armed just as much as you, but Americans overblow the threat of Islamic terrorism so much that it almost become a like the new red scare

Carey defends from robbery and murder . Lots of anti white Christan exists in poor black communities and attacks could happen unless tensions started up by Democrats resolve. Arming the church will help in incase there are shootings like the one at Christchurch (which wouldn't have happened without New Zealnds insane gun laws). Freedom of religion will only exist if you can protect religious property from attackers like it's your own.


So basically it's only necessary in your paranoid fantasy world.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:07 pm

Skarten wrote:
Novus America wrote:
I mean if they had the Notre Dame University Police wear Swiss Guards uniforms and carry halberds and great swords that would be pretty funny.


>Thief tries to steal from the church
>Gets cleaved in half by a halberd

Now that, is something i would pay to see.


Well I think that would still be a bit unreasonable use of force... :?
But “school shooting at Norte Dame averted when gunman sliced in half with halberd” now that would be something.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:08 pm

Novus America wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Don't need a carry permit on private property.


True. But it would be nice to be able to carry off my property.

Hey if the pastor gives permission to carry concealed on church property...
Even our old women and teenaged boys are armed here. Islamists wouldn't last long enough to finish their arabic battlecry.
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:10 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Novus America wrote:
True. But it would be nice to be able to carry off my property.

Hey if the pastor gives permission to carry concealed on church property...
Even our old women and teenaged boys are armed here. Islamists wouldn't last long enough to finish their arabic battlecry.

I don't think children should be carrying guns around but they should know how to shoot them.
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Postby Gagium » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:10 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Carey defends from robbery and murder . Lots of anti white Christan exists in poor black communities and attacks could happen unless tensions started up by Democrats resolve. Arming the church will help in incase there are shootings like the one at Christchurch (which wouldn't have happened without New Zealnds insane gun laws). Freedom of religion will only exist if you can protect religious property from attackers like it's your own.


So basically it's only necessary in your paranoid fantasy world.

IDK man. Count the number of recent shootings involving churches and other religious institutions in the US, and you'll find that this paranoid fantasy world is unfortunately ours...

I mean, except for the whole anti-'white christian' attacks by blacks. That's not happening...I'd think.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:11 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Wow you found a guy from Alabama who joined jihadists R us. Dude, your likelihood of being a victim of an Islamist attack anywhere in america is pretty low. Jihadism in Alabama is to cancer what the mole on my upper torso is to said illness. You're more likely to be killed by some random gang member or mugger or sovereign citizen than a jihadi. I support everyone being armed just as much as you, but Americans overblow the threat of Islamic terrorism so much that it almost become a like the new red scare

Carey defends from robbery and murder . Lots of anti white Christan exists in poor black communities and attacks could happen unless tensions started up by Democrats resolve. Arming the church will help in incase there are shootings like the one at Christchurch (which wouldn't have happened without New Zealnds insane gun laws). Freedom of religion will only exist if you can protect religious property from attackers like it's your own.


I agree with defending any property one holds dear, but the boogeymen you're coming up with aren't the most likely issues the church will face. Random burglars and vandals are more likely. The black community does have more anti white individuals than I would be comfortable with but the likelihood of one of them attacking your church in specific is low and the chance of a full blown race war is minimal considering most black and white people don't wanna fight. In America, the person most likely to kill you will probably kill you over some garbage like your wallet or car or what you said about them and less likely over political or religious motives. Of the 15,000 murders that happen in this nation annually, 90+% are motivated by either money, gang turf or a personal vendetta
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:13 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Novus America wrote:
True. But it would be nice to be able to carry off my property.

Hey if the pastor gives permission to carry concealed on church property...
Even our old women and teenaged boys are armed here. Islamists wouldn't last long enough to finish their arabic battlecry.


That is cool with me. I have no problem with that. But having a fully trained officer too would not be a bad thing, if your church could afford it.
Especially for dealing with lesser crimes like trespassing and stuff.
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Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Diopolis » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:14 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Hey if the pastor gives permission to carry concealed on church property...
Even our old women and teenaged boys are armed here. Islamists wouldn't last long enough to finish their arabic battlecry.

I don't think children should be carrying guns around but they should know how to shoot them.

Age appropriate sidearms would fix school shootings, you have to admit.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:16 pm

Novus America wrote:
Skarten wrote:
Expand the Swiss guard and put a detachment in every catholic church in the world.


I mean if they had the Notre Dame University Police wear Swiss Guards uniforms and carry halberds and great swords that would be pretty funny.

No, make them wear kilts and caubeens and carry a loaded shillelagh.

And they have to call every person they reprimand/arrest "ye heathen".
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:17 pm

The gun control thread is down the hall on your right. This is not it.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:17 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Novus America wrote:
I mean if they had the Notre Dame University Police wear Swiss Guards uniforms and carry halberds and great swords that would be pretty funny.

No, make them wear kilts and caubeens and carry a loaded shillelagh.

And they have to call every person they reprimand/arrest "ye heathen".

No, dressed as leprechauns.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:19 pm

Diopolis wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:No, make them wear kilts and caubeens and carry a loaded shillelagh.

And they have to call every person they reprimand/arrest "ye heathen".

No, dressed as leprechauns.


I was gonna make a joke about the Irish Republican Army but I think I'll refrain lol
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Postby Diopolis » Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:20 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Diopolis wrote:No, dressed as leprechauns.


I was gonna make a joke about the Irish Republican Army but I think I'll refrain lol

Hey, the irishmen are cops and catholics.
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