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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:46 am

The Central Marches wrote:When Western Civilization is under duress what else would you expect? Every action has an opposite reaction.

Regressive leftism can be countered without becoming literal fascists though.

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Postby Fostoria » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:47 am

"Alt-Right" is a huge buzzword. It was used extensively by Richard Spencer, an actual racist (basically), to describe his movement, but now it's used by the media to describe people like Ben Shaprio and etc. who don't share his racist views whatsoever.

I know that some people and groups actually do call themselves "alt-right," but it's more of a term used to conflate anyone farther right than John McCain with racists.

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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:48 am

Cossack Khanate wrote:The term alt-right was originally meant to describe neo-Nazis, pretty much. You know, the ones who actually SUPPORTED the Holocaust, or something like that. Now the term has been used by the mainstream left to describe any old fascist (which, by doctrine, does not call for genocide) or hard conservative. The American conservative barely even represents the views of the right anymore, with their small government and democracy-supporting views. That’s not what the right is about. The right is about a return to traditional society, going back to how we were in the old days without losing the good technological advances we’ve made. It’s a reform of society and politics, not ethnic makeup.

Now the leftists will dogpile on you and call you a fascist nazi.
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Communist Zombie Horde wrote:Best the fascists by becoming the fascists always works.



I don't get how a mostly anarchist organization is fascist.

You basically support left fascism and antifa uses the exact same tactics as neofascists to a point. You want them to become exactly like neofascist paramilitary organisations.
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I am a Marxist-Leninist.

So a red fascist.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:49 am

Cossack Khanate wrote:The term alt-right was originally meant to describe neo-Nazis, pretty much. You know, the ones who actually SUPPORTED the Holocaust, or something like that. Now the term has been used by the mainstream left to describe any old fascist (which, by doctrine, does not call for genocide) or hard conservative. The American conservative barely even represents the views of the right anymore, with their small government and democracy-supporting views. That’s not what the right is about. The right is about a return to traditional society, going back to how we were in the old days without losing the good technological advances we’ve made. It’s a reform of society and politics, not ethnic makeup.



Well, I think this a idealistic view of what Right-Wing means It is simply an category for Ideologies that don't support egalitarianism. Ideologies that view social inequalities as desirable, irremovable, or Natural.
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:52 am

Communal concils wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:There are as many alt right as there are hard commies like you. Antifa murdering random innocents in going to be the height of it.




the special word is "Innocent". If I was a Libertarian, I would mindlessly defend these people. However, I am not. So it is okay if the opposition is remove.

So you'll do a genocide for assuming all patriots are fascists.
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
The Central Marches wrote:When Western Civilization is under duress what else would you expect? Every action has an opposite reaction.

Regressive leftism can be countered without becoming literal fascists though.

Most radical anti-leftists aren't fascist. You are a liberal who thinks stuff you don't like is fascist .
Fostoria wrote:"Alt-Right" is a huge buzzword. It was used extensively by Richard Spencer, an actual racist (basically), to describe his movement, but now it's used by the media to describe people like Ben Shaprio and etc. who don't share his racist views whatsoever.

I know that some people and groups actually do call themselves "alt-right," but it's more of a term used to conflate anyone farther right than John McCain with racists.

The neo nazis may still use alt right but most rightists never have that leftists call alt right. Democrats had alt right for non alt right only .
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:53 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Communal concils wrote:


the special word is "Innocent". If I was a Libertarian, I would mindlessly defend these people. However, I am not. So it is okay if the opposition is remove.

So you'll do a genocide for assuming all patriots are fascists.

CC's support in the past for Pol Pot makes the answer to that a probably yes.

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Postby Cameroi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:53 am

i hesitate to say "thou fool",
but their self destructiveness is unavoidably obvious.

even that would be ok for them,
if it wasn't destructiveness of everyone and every thing, else.

its really really simple. you can't avoid causing harm by hating logic.

and if/when you deny that, you have basically nothing,

other then bitterness and hatred,

no matter what else you pretend to love or care about.

and if you hate being considerate, hating that is what creates tyranny,
so if you do that, and then cry about tyranny,
then you're really crying about yourself and your own doing.

but even that isn't enough. then they convince themselves that it can't possibly be themselves,
so they look for anyone else then themselves to blame for it.

because well it can't possibly be themselves, because they're (they 'think') the center of the universe,
and therefor the only reason everything else exists,
so it has to be everything else that's wrong,
and the universe is picking on them.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:54 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Cossack Khanate wrote:The term alt-right was originally meant to describe neo-Nazis, pretty much. You know, the ones who actually SUPPORTED the Holocaust, or something like that. Now the term has been used by the mainstream left to describe any old fascist (which, by doctrine, does not call for genocide) or hard conservative. The American conservative barely even represents the views of the right anymore, with their small government and democracy-supporting views. That’s not what the right is about. The right is about a return to traditional society, going back to how we were in the old days without losing the good technological advances we’ve made. It’s a reform of society and politics, not ethnic makeup.

Now the leftists will dogpile on you and call you a fascist nazi.
Communal concils wrote:

I don't get how a mostly anarchist organization is fascist.

You basically support left fascism and antifa uses the exact same tactics as neofascists to a point. You want them to become exactly like neofascist paramilitary organisations.
Communal concils wrote:

I am a Marxist-Leninist.

So a red fascist.


1. I don't call everyone I dislike Fascist. I call some reactionary and I call others capitalist. Fascism is what a call Fascist, Nazi is what I call a Neo-Nazi. As for the other words, I call people for what they are or for what they believe.

2. I strongly Support Para-militarism, which one reason why I'm Pro-Gun. fascism does not have a monopoly on every illiberal belief. It is Ironic that you call everyone you dislike Fascist.

3. You can't be a Fascist if your a Internationalist.
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:54 am

I'm just waiting for the "Punch-a-Nazi" meme to come up.

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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:55 am

Heloin wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:So you'll do a genocide for assuming all patriots are fascists.

CC's support in the past for Pol Pot makes the answer to that a probably yes.

Its funny when the leftists support nazi policies and then make them worse.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:56 am

Heloin wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:So you'll do a genocide for assuming all patriots are fascists.

CC's support in the past for Pol Pot makes the answer to that a probably yes.



I don't actually like Pol Pot. However, I think a Great Purge is needed for right-wingers.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby Arcadian Union » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:56 am

Very stupid indeed.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:57 am

The reason the Alt-Right has risen to prominence is because like it or not, they're the future of the Conservative movement and hopefully will be the future of politics. It was bound to happen that people would rebel against all the negative changes that liberal elites are causing. When we take over, it'll be a glorious new order.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:57 am

I've never gotten a good definition of who they are.

It is broadly applied to everyone you don't like, which makes me more of a boogeyman than anything. Or it applies to literal nazis, and no one else.

When a designation applies to everything, it applies to nothing.

It's kind of like "sex offender" that way, which can mean anyone from "a drunk peeing on a wall" up to "literally raping and killing babies".
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:00 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Communal concils wrote:


the special word is "Innocent". If I was a Libertarian, I would mindlessly defend these people. However, I am not. So it is okay if the opposition is remove.

So you'll do a genocide for assuming all patriots are fascists.
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Regressive leftism can be countered without becoming literal fascists though.

Most radical anti-leftists aren't fascist. You are a liberal who thinks stuff you don't like is fascist .
Fostoria wrote:"Alt-Right" is a huge buzzword. It was used extensively by Richard Spencer, an actual racist (basically), to describe his movement, but now it's used by the media to describe people like Ben Shaprio and etc. who don't share his racist views whatsoever.

I know that some people and groups actually do call themselves "alt-right," but it's more of a term used to conflate anyone farther right than John McCain with racists.

The neo nazis may still use alt right but most rightists never have that leftists call alt right. Democrats had alt right for non alt right only .



1. I am a Patriot. I care for my nation. I also care for the world.

2. You can't be a liberal if you think strong leadership is needed for a society, and think that free speech isn't for everybody.

3.interesting.
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:01 am

Communal concils wrote:
Heloin wrote:CC's support in the past for Pol Pot makes the answer to that a probably yes.



I don't actually like Pol Pot. However, I think a Great Purge is needed for right-wingers.

Adding this to proof the left wants genocides like in Ruesia China and Cambodia.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:02 am

Galloism wrote:I've never gotten a good definition of who they are.

It is broadly applied to everyone you don't like, which makes me more of a boogeyman than anything. Or it applies to literal nazis, and no one else.

When a designation applies to everything, it applies to nothing.

It's kind of like "sex offender" that way, which can mean anyone from "a drunk peeing on a wall" up to "literally raping and killing babies".



Theres two kinds:

Alt-right = White nationalist by another name. (may also include neo nazis)

Alt-lite = everyone who isnt the above but rode alongside during on the same wave during 2016 election. Specifically people lile Milo, McInnes or Sargon, who may be having unorthodox hard right-wing or nationalist views.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:02 am

Saiwania wrote:The reason the Alt-Right has risen to prominence is because like it or not, they're the future of the Conservative movement and hopefully will be the future of politics. It was bound to happen that people would rebel against all the negative changes that liberal elites are causing. When we take over, it'll be a glorious new order.

If pepe memes are the new world order I don't think it really even deserves a fair shake at it.

Communal concils wrote:
Heloin wrote:CC's support in the past for Pol Pot makes the answer to that a probably yes.



I don't actually like Pol Pot. However, I think a Great Purge is needed for right-wingers.

And that's not genocide how?

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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:03 am

Communal concils wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:So you'll do a genocide for assuming all patriots are fascists.

Most radical anti-leftists aren't fascist. You are a liberal who thinks stuff you don't like is fascist .
The neo nazis may still use alt right but most rightists never have that leftists call alt right. Democrats had alt right for non alt right only .



1. I am a Patriot. I care for my nation. I also care for the world.

2. You can't be a liberal if you think strong leadership is needed for a society, and think that free speech isn't for everybody.

3.interesting.

Globalist commies can't be patriots in America.
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Postby The Chuck » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:04 am

Communal concils wrote:
Heloin wrote:CC's support in the past for Pol Pot makes the answer to that a probably yes.



I don't actually like Pol Pot. However, I think a Great Purge is needed for right-wingers.


*Cough* Might not be the best to wish a purge upon people in opposing views to yourself... At the end of the day will you be able to walk the walk when you've talked the talk? Highly unlikely but good luck anyways.
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:04 am

Saiwania wrote:The reason the Alt-Right has risen to prominence is because like it or not, they're the future of the Conservative movement and hopefully will be the future of politics. It was bound to happen that people would rebel against all the negative changes that liberal elites are causing. When we take over, it'll be a glorious new order.

Thats funny but paleoconservatives are the voters not the nazis.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:05 am

Saiwania wrote:The reason the Alt-Right has risen to prominence is because like it or not, they're the future of the Conservative movement and hopefully will be the future of politics. It was bound to happen that people would rebel against all the negative changes that liberal elites are causing. When we take over, it'll be a glorious new order.



Really, The alt-right is for the weak. I see no Critical thought or anything useful to the economy.


So if you rise up and take over, Then a coup is surely something I will support. If victorious, Deportation is another thing I will support. For they would want to wipe out entire groups for their skin color, and I would want to remove the fascist for their waste of people and resources for their utopia.
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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:06 am

Heloin wrote:
Saiwania wrote:The reason the Alt-Right has risen to prominence is because like it or not, they're the future of the Conservative movement and hopefully will be the future of politics. It was bound to happen that people would rebel against all the negative changes that liberal elites are causing. When we take over, it'll be a glorious new order.

If pepe memes are the new world order I don't think it really even deserves a fair shake at it.

Communal concils wrote:

I don't actually like Pol Pot. However, I think a Great Purge is needed for right-wingers.

And that's not genocide how?

Communists think its not genocide if they kill over 20 million or use starvation field tactics.
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Communal concils wrote:

I don't actually like Pol Pot. However, I think a Great Purge is needed for right-wingers.


*Cough* Might not be the best to wish a purge upon people in opposing views to yourself... At the end of the day will you be able to walk the walk when you've talked the talk? Highly unlikely but good luck anyways.

I am confident the American militia will prevent any genocides.
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Postby Communal concils » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:07 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

I don't actually like Pol Pot. However, I think a Great Purge is needed for right-wingers.

Adding this to proof the left wants genocides like in Ruesia China and Cambodia.



"Genocide". With the exception of Cambodia, I don't think that's the case. But okay, Your narrative of " 50 million Kulaks killed" is totally accurate, without flaws.
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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Communal concils » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:09 am

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

1. I am a Patriot. I care for my nation. I also care for the world.

2. You can't be a liberal if you think strong leadership is needed for a society, and think that free speech isn't for everybody.

3.interesting.

Globalist commies can't be patriots in America.




I am actually a Anti-Globalist. Globalism depends on markets, and capitalist are a global ruling class that manipulates nation and steals the resources of Men and women across the world. Just to add more confusion to you, I support limited immigration and value Protectionism.
Woke Leftist: Anti-Liberal Leftist

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Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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