Iran to Execute Protestors

[Gauthier]

I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

And if the Iranian government somehow uncovers the funding, it'll be Operation Ajax all over again.

They likely will uncover evidence even if we don't fund it, given the way their president talks.
Besides those things are always hard to prove before the coup ends.

Except if there's actual American ties to the funding, it'll be all the more damning to the protestors than whatever bullshit the Iranian government can cook up on its own.

[The Macabees]

Except if there's actual American ties to the funding, it'll be all the more damning to the protestors than whatever bullshit the Iranian government can cook up on its own.

I'm not sure it matters what really happens and what doesn't. They are already blaming the death of Neda on the CIA as a kind of set up.

[Shaftique]

The US funding a coup in Iran is pretty much the same as invading and installing a regime.

[The Romulan Republic]

Also, keep in mind that the protests (initially) haven't nessissarily been about changing the basic structure of government in Iran, just about one disputed election. That may be changing as a result of such brutal crackdowns (the Iranian government having really backed itself into a corner on this one), but I doubt that all the protestors would support America trying to intervene and set up a state that is more to their liking, or any perception that that was going on. Moreover, any attempted interference by the west would tie right into the state propaganda, and delegitimize the protestors.

Granted, if God forbid it gets so bad that armed violence is spilling over into Iraq and Afghanistan, we may have cause to get directly militarily involved, but not before. Wars like this will have much more legitimacy (and are much more likely to succeed) if you aren't perceived as starting them.

[The Macabees]

To be fair, there is probably already "intervention"; it's just subtle and covert. There are U.S. units which operate in Palestine, for example, as well.

[Iglesian Archipelago]

It's time to make Iran a full democracy, turning Iran in an "all-blue" country, according to Wikipedia (which says that Iran is an "all-red" - least free - country)! Electoral fraud had happened! Iran might not have elections for President anymore, making Ahmadinejad a president for life.

[Massicut]

A subtle intervetion is all they need. If every enemy of the British helped America in the Revolutionary War, the government today would be very different.

[Swilatia]

It's time to make Iran a full democracy, turning Iran in an "all-blue" country, according to Wikipedia (which says that Iran is an "all-red" - least free - country)! The votes JUST were stolen!

It's just because of those riots (due to the steal of votes) that Iran might not have elections for President anymore, making the current President a president for life.

They tried it with Iraq. It didn't work.

[Sim Val]

They haven't made an official decision yet. So far, it's just one leading cleric calling for it. But we should hope that they are sane enough that they would not even try it.
Anyone who believes in prayer should pray.

And this is a problem for America...how?

Because the established government is already blaming the people who dissent on the US and Britain. I'd prefer to stand on the side lines and let them hurry up and kill each other, but it is likely the US will get dragged in at some point, if it continues as it is right now.

[Gauthier]

Except if there's actual American ties to the funding, it'll be all the more damning to the protestors than whatever bullshit the Iranian government can cook up on its own.

I'm not sure it matters what really happens and what doesn't. They are already blaming the death of Neda on the CIA as a kind of set up.

Yes, but that's just propaganda bullshit as it is. Actually proof of American involvement will only legitimize Ahmedinejad's fraud.

[Greater Americania]

Because the established government is already blaming the people who dissent on the US and Britain. I'd prefer to stand on the side lines and let them hurry up and kill each other, but it is likely the US will get dragged in at some point, if it continues as it is right now.

Are you suggesting that we'll get brought into a war? Because if not, I don't see anything Iran could possibly do to hurt us.

[Shaftique]

Don't worry, the US won't get 'dragged in.' The Us protects it's interests and ignores any conflict that it won't directly benefit from.

[Mirkana]

The Iranian people have to start this. But if an honest-to-goodness Iranian Revolution gets started, then we should offer them our full support. Limit it to aircraft if possible.

Of course, there is another possibility - Iraqi intervention. Hey, has the Iraqi government made any statements regarding the election?

[Shaftique]

Iraq is no position to intervene. The only military groups there that are well trained enough to even think about that sort of thing are US trained and controlled.

[The Imperial Navy]

No matter what happens, no matter what we do, a few things will stay the same.

The Middle east will hate the west, people will still scream "Allah!" as they blow themselves up, and governments will use the west as scapegoat for societies ills.

*Shrug* I really don't give a crap any more. If they wanna hate us, fine. But stay the hell away from me.

[Scario]

viva viagra i mean revolution.

[Scario]

and guess what...iran has nukes.

[Scario]

Because the established government is already blaming the people who dissent on the US and Britain. I'd prefer to stand on the side lines and let them hurry up and kill each other, but it is likely the US will get dragged in at some point, if it continues as it is right now.

Are you suggesting that we'll get brought into a war? Because if not, I don't see anything Iran could possibly do to hurt us.

nukes.that's all i need to say.nukes.

[Mirkana]

Because the established government is already blaming the people who dissent on the US and Britain. I'd prefer to stand on the side lines and let them hurry up and kill each other, but it is likely the US will get dragged in at some point, if it continues as it is right now.

Are you suggesting that we'll get brought into a war? Because if not, I don't see anything Iran could possibly do to hurt us.

nukes.that's all i need to say.nukes.

If the Iranians get close to developing nuclear weapons, the IDF will be on them like college students on free pizza.

[Shaftique]

and guess what...iran has nukes.

That's debatable really and I'd lean towards doubting it.

[The Romulan Republic]

and guess what...iran has nukes.

No, not yet. But it doesn't need them to hurt America. Anyone who thinks America can afford another war right now (militarily, politically, or economically) hasn't been paying attention.

Certainly, America could destroy Iran. But probably not without a cost to itself that is currently unacceptable.

[Gravlen]

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE55F54520090626

The situation in Iran continues to worsen as the Islamic Fascist dictatorship continues to dig its own grave. That's a hell of a lot of people if they do try to do it. They'll likely have a revolution on their hands.

Well, as you yourself have said, your title is misleading and false, and you haven't read your own source. Off to a good start this thread is.

"Leading rioters" need not be that many people..

[Gravlen]

and guess what...iran has nukes.

Guess what... They don't.

[Shaftique]

Okay now that I know somebody else here will back me up I'm more inclined to say "No Iran doesn't have nukes, you retards"

[Gravlen]

The people clearly desire democratic freedom, but would it be a good idea for the west to go in? Or would we end up with another Iraq?

Clearly? Are you sure? Or do you mean "democratic freedoms within the boundries of the Islamic Revolution"?

And I have no doubt an external threat would rally the Iranians around the current leadership. That's one of the major reasons why Ahmadinejad tries to blame international "meddling".