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Iran to Execute Protestors

Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:23 am

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNew ... 4520090626

The situation in Iran continues to worsen as the Islamic Fascist dictatorship continues to dig its own grave. That's a hell of a lot of people if they do try to do it. They'll likely have a revolution on their hands.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:24 am

That's it. It's time to... ahem... "liberate" them.
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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:27 am

They haven't made an official decision yet. So far, it's just one leading cleric calling for it. But we should hope that they are sane enough that they would not even try it.
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Postby Kryozerkia » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:28 am

It will only fuel the protesters' desire for reformation. The executions will likely be viewed as cowardice by a government desperately clinging to power. If they try and execute that many, it will no doubt put the government between a rock and a hard place internationally, causing to to lose legitimacy.

A thousand hands praying will never do a fraction of the work two hands deep in oozing sludge would.

Galloism wrote:That's it. It's time to... ahem... "liberate" them.

The people clearly desire democratic freedom, but would it be a good idea for the west to go in? Or would we end up with another Iraq?
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:29 am

Don't even think about putting that into practice, Cleric Ahmad Khatami. >:(

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:31 am

last time they had issues like this just a few years after the revolution.
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Postby United Anacreon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:32 am

I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

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Postby Londim » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:33 am

Galloism wrote:That's it. It's time to... ahem... "liberate" them.


That would be bad. This is a situation where the Iranians have to decide the future themselves.
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Postby Yootopia » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:34 am

United Anacreon wrote:I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

This being a solid, proven strategy for the US in the middle east.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:35 am

United Anacreon wrote:I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

There is a martyr already: Neda.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:35 am

Londim wrote:
Galloism wrote:That's it. It's time to... ahem... "liberate" them.


That would be bad. This is a situation where the Iranians have to decide the future themselves.


Your sarcasmeter needs fixin'.
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Postby Londim » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:36 am

Galloism wrote:
Londim wrote:
Galloism wrote:That's it. It's time to... ahem... "liberate" them.


That would be bad. This is a situation where the Iranians have to decide the future themselves.


Your sarcasmeter needs fixin'.


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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:38 am

United Anacreon wrote:I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

So treat the mideast like Latin America.
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Postby Vervaria » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:39 am

United Anacreon wrote:I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

Does not compute. Also, the only time there was ever democracy in Iran, the US and Britain overthrew the democratic government and installed a pro-west dictator, so the US bringing "back" democracy to Iran would be a little ironic.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:40 am

greed and death wrote:
United Anacreon wrote:I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

So treat the mideast like Latin America.

Because that worked so well last time.
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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:40 am

Kryozerkia wrote:It will only fuel the protesters' desire for reformation. The executions will likely be viewed as cowardice by a government desperately clinging to power. If they try and execute that many, it will no doubt put the government between a rock and a hard place internationally, causing to to lose legitimacy.

A thousand hands praying will never do a fraction of the work two hands deep in oozing sludge would.

Galloism wrote:That's it. It's time to... ahem... "liberate" them.

The people clearly desire democratic freedom, but would it be a good idea for the west to go in? Or would we end up with another Iraq?

Considering Iraq, Afghanistan, and now our decision to send weapons to Somalia, even if we wanted to, our hands our tied. We'd have to pull people from Iraq, Afghan, South Korea, Germany, Japan, kuwait, the US homeland, we'd even have to pull who ever we got in South America too. That would leave the lower 48 vulnerable.
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Postby Eofaerwic » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:40 am

Hopefully the regime is not so suicidal as to actually go through with this, I can't think of anything more likely to inflame the opposition (other than possibly the Supreme Leader coming out and saying "There has been no election fraud, nothing to see here". Oh wait, he did that :palm: )

There will be change in Iran after these protests. The question is, how much. The more the regime digs it's heels in and pushes, the more the protesters will push back.
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Postby UnitedStatesOfAmerica- » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:44 am

Vervaria wrote:
United Anacreon wrote:I say, to start a revolution you must have martyrs.

If we don't intervene, and we can fund a coup in Iran, we can bring back democracy and a pro-western government without "liberating" them.

Does not compute. Also, the only time there was ever democracy in Iran, the US and Britain overthrew the democratic government and installed a pro-west dictator, so the US bringing "back" democracy to Iran would be a little ironic.

That "democracy" was about to declare an alliance with the Soviet Union, putting the west's strategic interests at threat. It's the same thing that caused US policy in Latin America. The US interfered in these countries to block them from allying with the Soviet Union.
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Postby United Anacreon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:46 am

Because that worked so well last time.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:49 am

I have a bad feeling it will end up a full-blown civil war in Iran and spill over into neighboring countries.
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Postby United Anacreon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:52 am

Grays Harbor wrote:I have a bad feeling it will end up a full-blown civil war in Iran and spill over into neighboring countries.

The US would be dragged in, uncontrollable insurgennts spilling into Afghanistan and Iraq would guarantee US intervention.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:54 am

United Anacreon wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:I have a bad feeling it will end up a full-blown civil war in Iran and spill over into neighboring countries.

The US would be dragged in, uncontrollable insurgennts spilling into Afghanistan and Iraq would guarantee US intervention.

If it is in Afghanistan maybe the rest of Nato can be forced to help.
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Postby United Anacreon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:57 am

greed and death wrote:
United Anacreon wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:I have a bad feeling it will end up a full-blown civil war in Iran and spill over into neighboring countries.

The US would be dragged in, uncontrollable insurgennts spilling into Afghanistan and Iraq would guarantee US intervention.

If it is in Afghanistan maybe the rest of Nato can be forced to help.

I am quite optimistic...I hope they can resolve this peacefully, but if not, NATO and US troops, and possibly AU and NZ could do much to help.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:58 am

Or, in order to avoid any accusations of "interfering" we could just throw a cordon around Iran and let them fight amongst themselves.

Any US or NATO intervention would not go well as at least half of the international community would be against whatever the US did, not to mention all the domestic discord here in the US with a new round of anti-war agitation.

The US just needs to keep a strict "hands-off" policy in Iran going.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:59 am

United Anacreon wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:I have a bad feeling it will end up a full-blown civil war in Iran and spill over into neighboring countries.

The US would be dragged in, uncontrollable insurgennts spilling into Afghanistan and Iraq would guarantee US intervention.


Don't worry. They'll greet us as liberators.
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