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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:40 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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So, what you're saying is you supported sending escaped slaves back to the south?

I'll take things i didnt say for 2000 please. Oh look its the Daily Double!!!


In your own words, to defy the authority of the state is a crime and not something you support, so it stands to reason you would have supported the Fugitive Slave Act, yes?
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:40 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
So, what you're saying is you supported sending escaped slaves back to the south?

I'll take things i didnt say for 2000 please. Oh look its the Daily Double!!!

If you don't like it, maybe don't do it to others incessantly. Turnabout is fair play.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:40 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I’m assuming they represent more rural voters, many of which work in the timber industry which would be negatively affected by the cap and trade bill. Their constituents clearly oppose this bill, and if they were to show up to vote against it, it will pass because Democrats have the majority. Because they fled the state, the bill can not pass. They are preventing a bill their constituents oppose from passing.

Seems to me like they are doing a great job of representing their constituents.

And nothing else can get done either. In effect they are shutting down the government and are saying they don’t respect free and fair elections.

Should they stay out of the state until 2022 when they are next up for election and Oregon is without a functioning state government for four years?


All they have to do is stay out of the state until the end of the legislative session.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:41 pm

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San Lumen wrote:And nothing else can get done either. In effect they are shutting down the government and are saying they don’t respect free and fair elections.

Should they stay out of the state until 2022 when they are next up for election and Oregon is without a functioning state government for four years?


All they have to do is stay out of the state until the end of the legislative session.


Or just forever.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:41 pm

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Loben The 2nd wrote:And that is?

I shouldnt have to explain this. You know a state government works right? We did have an election last year.

But this walk out is about an bill that harms the local economy.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:41 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And nothing else can get done either. In effect they are shutting down the government and are saying they don’t respect free and fair elections.

Should they stay out of the state until 2022 when they are next up for election and Oregon is without a functioning state government for four years?


All they have to do is stay out of the state until the end of the legislative session.

and Oregon will have no state budget

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Postby Arlenton » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
So, what you're saying is you supported sending escaped slaves back to the south?

I'll take things i didnt say for 2000 please. Oh look its the Daily Double!!!

Not following the fugitive slave act was against the law.

The point being, sometimes people see laws as so unjust that they refuse to follow them.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
All they have to do is stay out of the state until the end of the legislative session.

and Oregon will have no state budget


What a shame...
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:42 pm

Arlenton wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I'll take things i didnt say for 2000 please. Oh look its the Daily Double!!!

Not following the fugitive slave act was against the law.

The point being, sometimes people see laws as so unjust that they refuse to follow them.

slavery and this are different leagues

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Not following the fugitive slave act was against the law.

The point being, sometimes people see laws as so unjust that they refuse to follow them.

slavery and this are different leagues


So hypocritical.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:42 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I shouldnt have to explain this. You know a state government works right? We did have an election last year.

But this walk out is about an bill that harms the local economy.

Lumen doesn't give fuck. They think the rural counties should just eat it because the majority says so.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Not following the fugitive slave act was against the law.

The point being, sometimes people see laws as so unjust that they refuse to follow them.

slavery and this are different leagues


Not really.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and Oregon will have no state budget


What a shame...

Yeah its no big deal if no money gets appropriated to anything in any county in state.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What a shame...

Yeah its no big deal if no money gets appropriated to anything in any county in state.


Can we do that here? It'll be amazing.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Not following the fugitive slave act was against the law.

The point being, sometimes people see laws as so unjust that they refuse to follow them.

slavery and this are different leagues

See goalposts.

See goalposts run.

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Postby Scomagia » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Not following the fugitive slave act was against the law.

The point being, sometimes people see laws as so unjust that they refuse to follow them.

slavery and this are different leagues

Dodging the point.
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Gun Manufacturers wrote:
All they have to do is stay out of the state until the end of the legislative session.

and Oregon will have no state budget

I mean, the alternative isn't much better. Especially for many rural Oregonians.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:43 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:But this walk out is about an bill that harms the local economy.

Lumen doesn't give fuck. They think the rural states should just eat it because the majority says so.

It’s clear he doesn’t care, he either buys into the bullshit that the US is the worlds leading polluter or some shit.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:44 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:But this walk out is about an bill that harms the local economy.

Lumen doesn't give fuck. They think the rural states should just eat it because the majority says so.


The governor of your state should have to nominate people she disagrees with to appease you or the majority in the legislature cater to the whims of spoiled children?

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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:44 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What a shame...

I live here man.


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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:45 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah its no big deal if no money gets appropriated to anything in any county in state.


Can we do that here? It'll be amazing.


Your ignorance is truly astounding. I really hope to hear what your senator said about doing in California what their brethren did in Oregon.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Lumen doesn't give fuck. They think the rural states should just eat it because the majority says so.


The governor of your state should have to nominate people she disagrees with to appease you or the majority in the legislature cater to the whims of spoiled children?


Let's be honest. I think the governor of my state deserves magnitudes worse than that.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:45 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:It’s clear he doesn’t care, he either buys into the bullshit that the US is the worlds leading polluter or some shit.

DO YOU LOOK AT SCIENTIFIC FACT BOIIII

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:45 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
The governor of your state should have to nominate people she disagrees with to appease you or the majority in the legislature cater to the whims of spoiled children?


Let's be honest. I think the governor of my state deserves magnitudes worse than that.

We are talking about Oregon. I am done talking about Newsom with you.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Can we do that here? It'll be amazing.


Your ignorance is truly astounding. I really hope to hear what your senator said about doing in California what their brethren did in Oregon.


Ignorance of what? Or is this that whole people aren't allowed to disagree with you thing?
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