Oregon Republicans facing arrest

[Drunkerland]

This Forum has gone so off topic.

[Vassenor]

This Forum has gone so off topic.

That's what happens when people are more interested in virtue signalling.

[Mitheldalond]

They aren't facing arrest, as they aren't being detained and charged with a crime. Fix the title.

Arrest: to take or keep in custody by authority of law
- Merriam Webster dictionary

Being arrested and being charged with a crime are two completely different things.

[Alien Overlord]

43 states have a smaller population than Los Angeles County. The Electoral College ensures that they have the same voice as the coastal elites. People think LA or NYC should in effect- determine the outcome of every election?

Oh, we're peddling that myth again?

People matter. Soil doesn't.

I disagree. You seem to overlook the fact that the people living in cities are only able to maintain their position because those in rural area's farm the soil. The cities shouldn't lord over the rural area's with impunity-it's wrong, especially when the rural area's are essential to the functioning of any nation. The electoral college has a lot of flaws, but i have to give it this-it does at least give a small voice to those who would otherwise have none, practically.

All people matter, not just those living in LA or NYC.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Oh, we're peddling that myth again?

People matter. Soil doesn't.

Exactly; people matter.

Which is why the people of Wisconsin, Nebraska, or Oklahoma shouldn't have their collective power drowned out by California or New York alone.

There not. The EC fails to protect smaller states.

Candidates take emece interest in a few states only catering to there needs. Such as Florida and Ohio.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

So why would they need to come heavily armed if he's not going to try and use lethal force to prevent his being made to do his job?

Vass. Change. The. Lying. Title.

This ^^ Bringing them back to the capital to the legislative body is not the same as arresting them.

[No State Here]

I'm gonna say it: The Dems have been much more ridiculous Since trump has been elected than the Republicans.

Examples:
Unfounded claims that Russia interfered with U.S. Elections
Advocating for fully open borders
The Supreme court vacancy

Need I say even more?

I remember when Obama was president, and they wouldn't even let him appoint anyone (even a republican) to the supreme court to fix a vacancy. Your party also has its problems.

Both parties suck. Politicians suck.

[Fartsniffage]

If it's not an arrest then what is it? As far as I'm aware just grabbing them and driving them to the state house would be kidnapping?

This is done and is perfectly legal to send the police to bring them back: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/438045/.

I know it can be done and is legal. I'm trying to get Scomagia to back up his statement that doing it isn't arresting the Senators.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Vass. Change. The. Lying. Title.

This ^^ Bringing them back to the capital to the legislative body is not the same as arresting them.

It’s apparently an arrest for the purpose of having a live quorum.

[Mitheldalond]

Vass. Change. The. Lying. Title.

This ^^ Bringing them back to the capital to the legislative body is not the same as arresting them.

Yes. It is.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

I remember when Obama was president, and they wouldn't even let him appoint anyone (even a republican) to the supreme court to fix a vacancy. Your party also has its problems.

Both parties suck. Politicians suck.

I agree. I see little reason to vote for either of them.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

This is done and is perfectly legal to send the police to bring them back: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/438045/.

I know it can be done and is legal. I'm trying to get Scomagia to back up his statement that doing it isn't arresting the Senators.

Well, the tactic is an arrest. They’re just not being charged for a crime.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Well, hopefully this gets people all fired up and angry.

[Ourisio]

So why would they need to come heavily armed if he's not going to try and use lethal force to prevent his being made to do his job?

Vass. Change. The. Lying. Title.

Gee, you're a real bright spark. Read the man's words.

"This is what I told the superintendent,” Boquist said, referring to OSP Superintendent Travis Hampton. “Send bachelors and come heavily armed. I’m not going to be a political prisoner in the state of Oregon. It’s just that simple."

Maybe don't pretend to not understand what he's driving at when you respond back to a hypothetical threat in another thread.

So we should then wait till those actions happen? If I say I think that people who go with the first three letters of "SCO" should be shot, do we wait till I shoot you? Or do we arrest me, for my violent intentions?

Wait until you shoot. It's a non-specific threat.

Be warned, though, I'll shoot back.

Better yet, don't - actually double-down, so we can quote you later when you try to shuffle back to "BLUE LIVES MATTER".

[Diopolis]

Exactly; people matter.

Which is why the people of Wisconsin, Nebraska, or Oklahoma shouldn't have their collective power drowned out by California or New York alone.

Can you actually prove that will happen though? Or are we just relying on vague fearmongering about DE COASTAL ELITES to ram through anti-democratic measures?

At the moment, the electoral college is the only way that the rural areas have of protecting themselves from utter domination by urban areas.

[Neutraligon]

Strongly against the democrats doing this. people leaving in order to prevent a quorum is a legitimate political move to prevent a bill from passing, kinda like a filibuster. This reeks of making political prisoners.

[Scomagia]

This is done and is perfectly legal to send the police to bring them back: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/438045/.

I know it can be done and is legal. I'm trying to get Scomagia to back up his statement that doing it isn't arresting the Senators.

Arguably detention is a better word.

Arrest, despite its literal definition, has connotations in its common use that differ from its literal definition. The title is still misleading and, knowing Vass, that's deliberate.

[Vassenor]

Can you actually prove that will happen though? Or are we just relying on vague fearmongering about DE COASTAL ELITES to ram through anti-democratic measures?

At the moment, the electoral college is the only way that the rural areas have of protecting themselves from utter domination by urban areas.

Can you actually prove that will happen though? Or are we still just relying on vague fearmongering about DE COASTAL ELITES to ram through anti-democratic measures?

Because at the moment all the Electoral College benefits is the hyper-close swing states to the detriment of everyone else.

[No State Here]

Vass. Change. The. Lying. Title.

Gee, you're a real bright spark. Read the man's words.

Well if they’re not facing arrest, why does the title say they’re facing arrest?

[Washington Resistance Army]

At the moment, the electoral college is the only way that the rural areas have of protecting themselves from utter domination by urban areas.

Can you actually prove that will happen though? Or are we still just relying on vague fearmongering about DE COASTAL ELITES to ram through anti-democratic measures?

Because at the moment all the Electoral College benefits is the hyper-close swing states to the detriment of everyone else.

Washington state and the very state featured here, Oregon, are pretty good examples of it tbh.

[No State Here]

At the moment, the electoral college is the only way that the rural areas have of protecting themselves from utter domination by urban areas.

Can you actually prove that will happen though? Or are we still just relying on vague fearmongering about DE COASTAL ELITES to ram through anti-democratic measures?

Because at the moment all the Electoral College benefits is the hyper-close swing states to the detriment of everyone else.

Any elections system underrepresented people

I keep repeating this: Elections are garbage

[Alien Overlord]

Strongly against the democrats doing this. people leaving in order to prevent a quorum is a legitimate political move to prevent a bill from passing, kinda like a filibuster. This reeks of making political prisoners.

Hopefully, maybe then the Military can step in and restore order-the last thing we need is socialism.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Gee, you're a real bright spark. Read the man's words.

Well if they’re not facing arrest, why does the title say they’re facing arrest?

Because if they can’t be compelled to attend quorum, they can indeed be arrested and brought back. It is a tactic rarely invoked though.

[Valrifell]

Strongly against the democrats doing this. people leaving in order to prevent a quorum is a legitimate political move to prevent a bill from passing, kinda like a filibuster. This reeks of making political prisoners.

Hopefully, maybe then the Military can step in and restore order-the last thing we need is socialism.

Mmm yes, more escalation.

[Diopolis]

Can you actually prove that will happen though? Or are we still just relying on vague fearmongering about DE COASTAL ELITES to ram through anti-democratic measures?

Because at the moment all the Electoral College benefits is the hyper-close swing states to the detriment of everyone else.

Washington state and the very state featured here, Oregon, are pretty good examples of it tbh.

So is NY state.